tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14445504256945840772024-03-17T23:03:17.976-04:00My Daily KonaThe musings of a politically incorrect dinosaur from a forgotten age where civility was the rule rather than the exception.MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.comBlogger3613125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-80340686258421164672024-03-17T06:52:00.003-04:002024-03-17T06:52:44.543-04:00The first 787 acquired for part out.<p> I am in the aviation industry and the truth of the matter is that an airplane is worth more as parts than as a while unit, especially with low time on the parts, they can get a lot of money after they "Harvest: the parts off the airframe and release them on the MRO world(Maintenance,Repair and Overhaul). I kinda feel bad for the plane but the weight factor is a big deal because with fuel cost and the 13000 pounds basically pushed the plane out of regular commercial revenue service because she can't carry as much as het later sisters can and that doesn't make her as profitable to operate to a commercial carrier so she would have been relegated to VIP use.</p><p><br /></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><img alt="C&L Aviation Group 787" class="CToWUd a6T" data-bit="iit" data-image-whitelisted="" height="454" id="m_-8237384976291842328Picture_x0020_1" src="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=63b361b583&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-f:1793518207963037083&th=18e3db4ec3d4fd9b&view=fimg&fur=ip&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ_AmyZMJr_GkDzT3EYpxbOu2Yc5dzpmjQxTBB-3XxDIJh0htdIFAtVmA_uZQkrf-D5UqdjN-P9LSc_H7PAE18ulw1d4sxidPyFZTBTVXArtj_j5LqXBP2heH6A&disp=emb" style="cursor: pointer; height: 4.7291in; outline: 0px; width: 8.3333in;" tabindex="0" width="800" /><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;">Credit: C&L Aviation Group<u></u><u></u></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The maturing <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/awin/program/639&source=gmail&ust=1710757172274000&usg=AOvVaw2zwHIwktMwCDKMuBM9rWFT" href="https://aviationweek.com/awin/program/639" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Boeing 787</span></a> fleet and the manufacturer’s inability to meet promised specifications on some of its earliest airframes has opened the door for a rare teardown opportunity.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Bangor, Maine-located C&L Engine Solutions (C&L), part of the C&L Aviation Group, announced March 11 it will be marketing the material from a parted-out <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/26635&source=gmail&ust=1710757172274000&usg=AOvVaw1gi2Giz24izoMMev7ZHT1-" href="https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/26635" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">GE Aerospace</span></a> GEnx-1B powered 787-8.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The aircraft was acquired by Florida-based Cloud Investment Partners (CIP) and investment funds managed by Strategic Value Partners, with C&L serving as the exclusive asset manager. CIP describes itself as a global diversified investment group with special focus in the capital markets within the aerospace, defense, and industrial power sectors.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">C&L said that the aircraft, s/n 35507, is the first GE-powered 787 to be disassembled in the U.S. and that it will be the first time a new 787 will be disassembled anywhere in the world. The aircraft has only ferry flight time on the clock.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">“Disassembling a virtually new 787 aircraft having only a few ferry cycles has never been done before,” Cloud Investment Partners’ managing partner David Weiss said. “We recognize the benefit of new parts in the market to assist OEMs in supporting their customers as well as providing a source for airlines to purchase hard-to-find parts.”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The aircraft is no ordinary 787. Rolled out in 2010 as line no. 17, it was one of a group of early 787s with higher-than-specification empty weights that caused their original customers to balk at taking them.<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/boeing-extends-787-deferred-costs-longer-term-gain&source=gmail&ust=1710757172274000&usg=AOvVaw2Tf6tjcxhEgIM_Ds6ti32s" href="https://aviationweek.com/boeing-extends-787-deferred-costs-longer-term-gain" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;"> Dubbed “the terrible teens” </span></a>because of the problems, Boeing eventually found buyers for each of them.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">S/N 35507 was initially ordered by <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/25886&source=gmail&ust=1710757172274000&usg=AOvVaw0mu8iwUgjS2nC4tJjE5fy5" href="https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/25886" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Royal Air Maroc</span></a> in November 2005 in a four-aircraft deal. But the airline declined to take it, putting it back on the market.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">After five years of storage following its rollout, <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/48449&source=gmail&ust=1710757172274000&usg=AOvVaw3Og3Th8BI_M3fXWR01cFGn" href="https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/48449" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Boeing Business Jets</span></a> bought the aircraft in a paper transaction for a VIP customer. It was then sold two more times by November 2021, landing in a fund linked to Resorts World Las Vegas. In between, it was re-marketed as a VIP aircraft pending delivery, but was never modified. Aside from a few ferry hops, it has spent its entire existence in storage.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The aircraft will be parted out in Roswell, New Mexico, by CAVU Aerospace, with the resulting components taken to C&L’s new warehouse in Wichita, Kansas. C&L added that it is working with OEMs to utilize these parts in supplementing their current inventories.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">“The timing of this project for the 787 is perfect,” C&L Engine Solutions president Tim Brecher said. “The 787 fleet is hitting the 12-year mark from first deliveries and entering a busy schedule for heavy maintenance. The shortage of spares in the marketplace, combined with the ongoing challenges in the supply chain, make this project critical to OEMs and operators.”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Nobody was available from C&L to provide further details.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The 787s that made up the "terrible teens" got their name because of the extra empty weight they acquired through <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/boeing-resumes-count-down-787-first-flight&source=gmail&ust=1710757172274000&usg=AOvVaw3GQe1FUIdEG27iU9mKe51j" href="https://aviationweek.com/boeing-resumes-count-down-787-first-flight" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">extensive change incorporation required</span></a> to fix structural issues and bring the aircraft up to certification standards. The problem was discovered in the wing-body join area during limit load tests on the static test airframe in May 2009 and centered on high stress loads at the end of top stringers under the upper skin of the wing.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">When the wing flexed, tests showed that the stress levels at the junction of the wing with the side of body caused composite skin structure to delaminate. The issue was solved by redistributing the loads through making a U-shaped cutout in the ends of the upper wing stringers as well as adding titanium fasteners to the ends of the reshaped stringers. The junction of the stringers with the upper skin was also strengthened with additional fasteners.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The fix, which was applied to the initial batch of production aircraft from line number seven to 19, added weight and required a costly maintenance and inspection program that was specifically tailored to this limited fleet. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Together with the impact of other structural and systems inefficiencies which Boeing gradually redesigned out of the aircraft over later batches, the augmented strengthening resulted in a terrible teen fleet believed to be around 13,500 lb. overweight.</span></p>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-24701252167281696702024-03-12T20:10:00.004-04:002024-03-12T20:10:28.387-04:00"The M-1 Carbine, the Most Prolific American Small Arms of WWII"<p> </p><p>I saw this on the start page on my "Edge" browser and I shamelessly clipped it. It is on my bucket list to get an M1 carbine so I shamelessly "Nicked it" I know a few people with one and I did drool while handling it., LOL</p><p><br /></p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The M1 Carbine is one of the most recognizable and long-serving military firearms in the world. Though many consider it to be the anemic kid brother of the legendary M1 Garand, the carbine has its own unique story, operating features, and role. Anyone interested in guns has, at a minimum, seen the M1 Carbine movies, but most don’t know it was the most prolific American rifle of WWII — even more so than the Garand. 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font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">See It</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"></span></p><div class="article-list-slot" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><ul style="padding-inline-start: 20px;"><li class="continue-read-break" data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 28px; margin: 10px 0px; opacity: 1; position: static;">Cartridge: .30 Carbine<slot name="cont-read-break"></slot></li><li data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 28px; margin: 10px 0px;">Barrel: 17.75 inches</li><li data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 28px; margin: 10px 0px;">Bolt: Two-lug</li><li data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 28px; margin: 10px 0px;">Operating System: Short-stroke gas piston</li><li data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="font-size: 18px; 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line-height: 28px; margin: 10px 0px;">Price: $1,100 and up</li></ul><slot name="default"></slot></div><h2 class="wp-block-heading article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">A Brief History of the M1 Carbine</h2><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">In the years leading up to WWII, America’s military was making changes to address lessons learned in the first world war, and stay relevant on an evolving potential battlefield. The government adopted the <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.outdoorlife.com/guns/m1-garand/" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">M1 Garand</a> in 1936 and, in 1940, ordered the US Army Ordnance Department to come up with a more portable weapon. </p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The goal of this new weapon program was to bridge the gap between the <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.outdoorlife.com/guns/best-1911/" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank"><em>Model 1911 pistol</em></a> in .45 ACP and the M1 Garand. The average infantry soldier carried an M1 rifle, but the military is made up of much more than just riflemen. Supply soldiers, vehicle drivers, NCOs, officers, and any other soldier who didn’t need or want to carry the full-sized M1 battle rifle had limited options aside from the 1911 or the expensive and heavy Thompson submachine gun. The idea was to develop a small, portable weapon that was more accurate and effective than a pistol, and wouldn’t impede the troop’s primary job. A good example of how this played out in the movies is shown in the series <em>The Pacific, </em>where Eugene Sledge and other mortarmen carried carbines. </p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">According to Schiffer Military’s book <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.amazon.com/M1-Carbine-Variants-Ammunition-Accessories/dp/0764361899" rel="noreferrer nofollow" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank"><em>The M1 Carbine: Markings, Variants, Ammunition, Accessories</em></a>, the criteria for this new weapon were to weigh less than 5 pounds, be able to be carried on a sling, and provide effective fire to 300 yards. As for ammunition, neither the <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.amazon.com/M1-Carbine-Variants-Ammunition-Accessories/dp/0764361899" rel="noreferrer noopener sponsored nofollow" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">.30/06 M1 Garand ammo</a> or the standard-issue .45 ACP were appropriate. For the project, Winchester designed and submitted a new 7.62mm cartridge, the .30 Carbine, based on the rimmed .32 Winchester Auto.</p><h3 class="wp-block-heading article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">The M1 Carbine As We Know It</h3><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Prototypes for this new carbine were tested by the Ordnance Department in 1941, and they included submissions from Springfield (designed by John C. Garand), Auto Ordnance, Savage, H&R, Woodhull, Colt, and Bendix Aviation. </p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Winchester’s submission was partly the result of work they had been doing on updated versions of the M1 Garand, namely a short-stroke gas piston developed by David Marshall Williams. Their team famously created a prototype carbine in 13 days, which beat the competition in September, 1941. This would become the M1 Carbine we all recognize.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">In mass production during WWII, M1 Carbines were made in largest numbers by Inland Manufacturing (a division of General Motors) and Winchester, but also by Rock-Ola Music Corporation who made jukeboxes, Standard Products, Quality Hardware, National Postal Meter, Saginaw Steering and Gear, Underwood, and IBM. That’s right, the IBM that would become known for its computers but which started as International Business Machine and made products such as time clocks and hole-punch technology.</p><h3 class="wp-block-heading article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">A Long History of Service</h3><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">More M1 Carbines were made during WWII than M1 Garands (approximately 6.1 million vs. 5.4 million) and the carbine’s service generally outlasted that of its larger service companion. Both were primary U.S. service weapons during WWII and the Korean War, and both were issued to Americans in some numbers during the Vietnam War — one of my high school teachers was issued a Garand on his first trip to Vietnam — and the M1 carbine continued to be used in large numbers by South Vietnamese and indigenous troops throughout the conflict. </p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1jHtA6-intraArticleModule-3"></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The M1 Carbine has lingered as an active combat arm in many parts of the world for decades since its retirement from the U.S. military. A buddy of mine who spent a decade in the 10th Special Forces Group told me that they encountered Taliban soldiers using them in Afghanistan just a few years ago. He also queried some of his SF buddies, who said that though they weren’t actively being used, they’ve seen M1 Carbines in military arms rooms in parts of Africa recently.</p><h2 class="wp-block-heading article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">How the M1 Carbine Works</h2><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">In looks and function, the M1 Carbine is indeed a smaller sibling to the M1 Garand. Ironically, the carbine that John C. Garand submitted for the competition was beaten by one that borrowed many elements from his M1 Rifle. For all their similarities though, the two arms have key differences, and in some ways, the carbine is simpler and more versatile. </p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1jHtA6-intraArticleModule-4"></slot></div><h3 class="wp-block-heading article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Short-Stroke Gas Piston</h3><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The most unique feature of the M1 Carbine, especially for its time, was its early adoption of a short-stroke gas piston to drive the semi-automatic action. What this means is that the system uses a short, captured piston that has a compact range of travel. The piston is held in the gas block under the barrel and concealed by the stock. When a shot is fired and the bullet passes the gas port, the gas block directs gas down from the gas port, and against the back of the piston, driving it back towards the action. The piston’s quick impulsive movement knocks the operating slide to the rear, after which the recoil spring drives the operating slide back forward and a new round is chambered.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The M1 Carbine has a bolt, actuator, charging handle, and receiver that are similar and work in the same way as the M1 Garand’s system, but the key difference is that the M1 Garand’s charging or operating handle, operating rod, and long-stroke gas piston are all one piece. Gas from the Garand presses directly against the end of the operating rod to drive the action with one long movement. On the M1 Carbine, the piston is separate, bridging the gap between gas and the operating slide, cycling it with a short, fast movement.</p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1jHtA6-intraArticleModule-5"></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">This was the first major use of a short-stroke gas piston system, and it was later adopted in rifles such as the SKS and, in modern day, the piston-driven AR-15 and similar rifles. The most prolific example of a long-stroke piston in modern times is the AK-47.</p><h3 class="wp-block-heading article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Magazine and Trigger Group</h3><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">A feature that set the M1 Carbine up for success was the use of a detachable box magazine. Standard-issue was a 15-round double-stack magazine, but manufacture of 30-round magazines kicked off in 1945. This was a simpler and more versatile design than the Garand’s internal magazine, which was driven by linkages connected to the recoil spring. For how reliable the Garand was, it depended on good timing and a number of small parts that the box magazine design of the M1 Carbine skirted around.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The trigger group of the M1 Carbine is in a solid steel housing. There is some variation between manufacturers, and some are machined out of entirely one piece. Others incorporate folded studs and folded metal trigger guards. The trigger group is connected to the receiver at two points: a winged stud on the top/rear of the trigger group slides into a slot at the rear of the receiver, and the stud at the front is secured with a drift pin. The connection of trigger group and receiver is similar to, and may have inspired that of the Ruger 10/22.</p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1jHtA6-intraArticleModule-6"></slot></div><h2 class="wp-block-heading article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Evolution and Variation of the M1 Carbine</h2><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">As the M1 Carbine was issued en masse shortly after its conception, the design was tweaked and modified to help it better fill its role as it gained combat experience. Most gun-savvy folks recognize the regular M1 Carbine and the folding-stock M1A1 Carbine that was issued to many paratroopers. Prototypes of the select-fire M2 Carbine were tested in 1944, but the war was over before large numbers of them could be fielded. </p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">In addition to model variants, many parts and pieces of the M1 Carbine were updated during WWII, and carbines were retrofitted with these during the war. An informative book for any M1 Carbine owner or enthusiast, the <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.amazon.com/Cal-Carbines-M1A1-Rifles-9-1276/dp/160170030X" rel="noreferrer noopener sponsored nofollow" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank"><em>Department of the Army Technical Manual for Cal .30 Carbines M1, M1A1, M2, and M3</em></a> from 1953 prescribes the protocol for inspecting, repairing, and upgrading every part of the M1 Carbine. It details differences between older and newer parts, and identifies which are acceptable, and which need to be replaced. It’s a step-by-step guide for the depot armorer on everything from updating the sights to repairing a cracked buttstock. </p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1jHtA6-intraArticleModule-7"></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">If you pay attention, you’ll notice that the individual parts and features can vary greatly on vintage M1 Carbines. Carbines that exist as they left the factory are extremely rare and, because manufacturers often used other manufacturers’ parts, many guns never made it out the door with matching parts. For rifles that were issued, nearly all were overhauled and updated at some point. Most are a mish-mash of parts and were upgraded as required. Here are some of those parts.</p><h3 class="wp-block-heading article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Safety </h3><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Initially, the M1 Carbine came with a cross-bolt safety just like the one on a Ruger 10/22. These were issued for much of WWII, but they were easy to confuse with the magazine catch button just in front of the safety. When trying to disengage the safety for immediate use, the shooter would sometimes accidentally drop the magazine free — something that I’ve done several times with this style. Because of this, a rotating, switch-style safety was designed. It points down in the “safe” position, and is rotated back towards the trigger into the “fire” position.</p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1jHtA6-intraArticleModule-8"></slot></div><h3 class="wp-block-heading article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Rear Sight</h3><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Many M1 Carbines were issued with a simple L-type rear peep sight, which could alternate between two different peephole heights for 150- and 300-yard ranges. The sight was fixed in a dovetail atop the receiver and not adjustable. </p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">In 1943, a machined, adjustable rear sight was adopted and many carbines were retrofitted with it. The technical manual I listed earlier describes the process of pressing out the old L-type sight, peening the dovetail, pressing in the new adjustable sight, and staking it to prevent movement. This new type of sight had a knob for windage adjustment, a graduated ramp with pre-marked yardage adjustments for elevation, and an adjustable zero reference plate on the rear of the sight base. Later, another adjustable sight was adopted, this time made with stamped metal parts.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">My own carbine was retrofitted with one of the machined sights, which I found to be slightly loose. I removed it, cleaned the dovetails, added a bit of thread locker to the dovetail, reinstalled the site, and re-staked it as prescribed in the manual. So far, so good.</p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1jHtA6-intraArticleModule-9"></slot></div><h3 class="wp-block-heading article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Operating Slides</h3><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The operating slides of the M1 were altered slightly over the years, and they’re distinguishable by the machining and shapes of the actuator — the part that actuates and moves the bolt. Beginning in 1945, operating slides were made and modified to be used for the full-auto M2 carbine. The technical manual tells the armorer which should be used on M1 and M1A1 Carbines and which were to be reserved for M2 Carbines at the time.</p><h3 class="wp-block-heading article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Bolts</h3><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The M2 Carbine was developed to use a fully cylindrical bolt, where the M1 and M1A1 originally had a flat-topped bolt. The newer round bolts work in an M1 Carbine, but they’re made to withstand the rigors of full-auto fire in an M2.</p><h3 class="wp-block-heading article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Barrel Bands</h3><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The M1 Carbine started off with a thin barrel band, which held the stock, barrel, and handguard in place. Eventually this was replaced with a wider barrel band that could be loosened with a cartridge case via a single screw at the bottom. By late 1944, another iteration had been designed that incorporated a slip-over bayonet lug.</p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1jHtA6-intraArticleModule-10"></slot></div><h3 class="wp-block-heading article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Magazine Catches</h3><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The Army technical manual describes three different styles of magazine catch, two being acceptable in 1953. The basic M1 carbine used a magazine catch with two studs to support 15-round magazines. The latest design had an additional stud that fit on the side of the magazine and supported a third tab on the heavier 30-round magazines.</p><h2 class="wp-block-heading article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Shooting and Maintaining the M1 Carbine</h2><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">LIke M1 Garands, M1 Carbines and ammunition were once plentiful on the civilian market, and cheap. Lots of shooters grew up with an M1 Carbine in the closet, and it is a wonderful plinker for shooters of any age. The little .30 Carbine cartridge generates minimal recoil, and ammunition is compact. I’ve heard and read accounts of soldiers and Marines complaining about the efficacy of the cartridge, which is essentially a light, glorified pistol round, but the platform’s longevity speaks to its effectiveness in practice.</p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1jHtA6-intraArticleModule-11"></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The .30 carbine typically fires a 110-grain FMJ bullet at about 1,900 fps — not exactly lighting in a bottle. It’s a little baffling as to how it was effective at all, but the platform did seem to be well-liked. I’m sure that at some point my Grandpa — a BAR man that served in both the 101st and 82nd Airborne Divisions from 1944 through the end of the war— eyeballed somebody’s carbine with envy when it came time for a long march. </p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">I own a 1943 M1 Carbine made by IBM and, for this story, picked up two modern Auto Ordnance reproductions: their M1 and M1A1. I’ve torn them apart countless times and fired more than 2,000 rounds through the trio in the past few months — in <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Bastogne" rel="noreferrer nofollow" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">Bastogne</a>-like conditions between -10 and 30 degrees. All the carbines are a joy to shoot, but they aren’t exactly precision instruments. I recorded 46 10-shot groups at 50 yards with the three rifles across seven types of ammunition, and the overall average group size was 2.69 inches. My IBM carbine was the most accurate with an average of 2.45-inch 10-shot groups, but the results were quite consistent. For reference, I also fired 10-shot groups with my M1 Garand, which averaged 1.76 inches.</p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1jHtA6-intraArticleModule-12"></slot></div><h3 class="wp-block-heading article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">M1 Carbine Ammo</h3><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Stocks of GI 110-grain ball M1 Carbine ammo were once plentiful, but that’s no longer the case. Despite production of the little .30 Carbine taking a back seat to more popular rounds during recent ammo shortages, I was able to gather up 7 different types of factory ammo and reload some ammo myself. Here’s what I had:</p><div class="article-list-slot" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><ul style="padding-inline-start: 20px;"><li data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 28px; margin: 10px 0px;"><a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&mi=16393&pw=281801&ctc=OL-RV&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.guns.com%2Fammo%2Frifle-ammo%2Fhornady-critical-defense-30-carbine-110-grain-flex-tip-expanding-25-rounds-new%3Fp%3D50494" rel="noreferrer noopener sponsored nofollow" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">Hornady Critical Defense 110-grain FTX</a> ($1.28 per round)</li><li data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 28px; margin: 10px 0px;"><a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://cabelas.xhuc.net/c/2536217/185932/2623?subId1=OL-RV&sharedId=m1-carbine&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cabelas.com%2Fshop%2Fen%2Fppu-fmjrn-30-carbine-110-grain-centerfire-rifle-ammo" rel="noreferrer noopener sponsored nofollow" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">PPU 110-grain FMJ</a> ($0.72 per round)</li><li data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 28px; margin: 10px 0px;"><a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://cabelas.xhuc.net/c/2536217/185932/2623?subId1=OL-RV&sharedId=m1-carbine&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cabelas.com%2Fshop%2Fen%2Fppu-sprn-30-carbine-110-grain-centerfire-rifle-ammo" rel="noreferrer noopener sponsored nofollow" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">PPU 110-grain Soft Point</a> ($0.76 per round)</li><li data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 28px; margin: 10px 0px;"><a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&mi=22513&pw=281801&ctc=OL-RV&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.opticsplanet.com%2Fwinchester-ammunition-usa-30carbine-110gr-fmj-50-q3132.html" rel="noreferrer noopener sponsored nofollow" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">Winchester 110-grain FMJ</a> ($0.94 per round)</li><li data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 28px; margin: 10px 0px;"><a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://cabelas.xhuc.net/c/2536217/185932/2623?subId1=OL-RV&sharedId=m1-carbine&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cabelas.com%2Fshop%2Fen%2Fremington-umc-30-carbine-110-grain-fmj-centerfire-rifle-ammo" rel="noreferrer noopener sponsored nofollow" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">Remington UMC 110-grain FMJ</a> ($1.10 per round)</li><li data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 28px; margin: 10px 0px;"><a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&mi=22513&pw=281801&ctc=OL-RV&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.opticsplanet.com%2Fremington-core-lokt-centerfire-30-carbine-110gr-core-lokt-sp-rifle-cartridges-50.html" rel="noreferrer noopener sponsored nofollow" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">Remington Core-Lokt 110-grain</a> ($2.28 per round)</li><li data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 28px; margin: 10px 0px;"><a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.freedommunitions.com/30-carbine-110gr-rn-new.html" rel="noreferrer noopener sponsored nofollow" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">Freedom Munitions 110-grain FMJ</a> ($0.72 per round)</li></ul><slot name="default"></slot></div><h4 class="wp-block-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;">Reloading for the M1 Carbine</h4><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Along with factory ammo, I did a bit of reloading for my M1 Carbines, producing effective plinking ammo. I used a 110-grain FMJ bullet and 14.0 grains of Hodgdon H110 to get close to 1,900 fps and stay below maximum. It plinked just find and functioned well in the guns.</p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1jHtA6-intraArticleModule-13"></slot></div><h3 class="wp-block-heading article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Qualifying with the M1 Carbine</h3><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Another informative book for M1 Carbine owners is <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.amazon.com/U-S-Carbine-Caliber-Field-Manual/dp/1940453054" rel="noreferrer noopener sponsored nofollow" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank"><em>FM 23-7, U.S. Carbine Caliber .30 M1 and M1A1 Basic Field Manual</em></a>, which details the courses of fire and qualification scores for servicemen issued the M1 Carbine. After seeing an average of 2- to 3-inch 10-shot groups at 50 yards, I was quite curious about the requirements for a soldier who was issued an M1 Carbine. </p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">As prescribed in the field manual, a soldier would shoot qualifications at 100 and 200 yards in different positions, incorporating reloads, for a total of 40 shots for record. At 100 yards, they fired at a “Type A” target, and “Type B” target at 200 yards. These were bullseye-style targets marked from 5 points for a bullseye, down to 2 points for being on paper. Scores of 140, 165, and 180 points would qualify the shooter for Marksman, Sharpshooter, and Expert respectively. For shooters using the non-adjustable L-type rear sight, the threshold was 5 points lower for each level. I can attest that the adjustable rear sights shoot more accurately.</p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1jHtA6-intraArticleModule-14"></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">What does the 1944 standard for M1 Carbine proficiency mean? I couldn’t find exact specifications on the bullseye size of the Type A and Type B 100- and 200-yard targets, but I would assume that they correspond closely to the modern NRA 100- and 200-yard service rifle targets, which have bullseyes of 6.25 and 13 inches respectively. To qualify as Expert, a shooter had to average better than 4 out of 5 in the bullseye from each distance over 40 shots. Based on the accuracy I saw with my carbines, I’d say it’s challenging but not impossible. </p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">To feel out how effective my IBM carbine would be at 200 yards, I hung a two-third-sized IPSC steel plate at 200 yards. After a few shots to get my windage and elevation dialed in, I could hit the target easily with every shot. How effective is the .30 Carbine at 200 yards? At that distance, it’s down to about 1,250 fps — so about like a 9mm. </p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1jHtA6-intraArticleModule-15"></slot></div><h3 class="wp-block-heading article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">M1 Carbine vs M2 Carbine: Controllability</h3><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Though the M1 Carbine has very little recoil, the diminutive rifle is so light that it does jump around a bit, especially when compared to a refined platform like an AR-15. Rifle design, and how rifles were fired, was different when the M1 Carbine and M1 Garand were designed. Just as the 1911 pistol was developed in a time where pistols were intended to be shot with one hand only, the M1 Carbine wasn’t necessarily built with recoil impulse and control in mind. Still, shot in a modern style, the M1 Carbine can be fired quite quickly and precisely. I’m not sure that the same can be said for the select-fire version, the M2. Fortunately, my friends at a local gun store and shooting range, <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.alaskaammogroup.com/" rel="noreferrer nofollow" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">Alaska Ammo</a>, let me take their M2 for a test drive and I was able to find out for myself.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">I was able to compare the three different styles of the carbine, the M1, the M1A1, and the M2 head-to-head. To evaluate precision and controllability under the timer, I decided to run Bill Drills with each — <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.outdoorlife.com/guns/how-to-shoot-the-bill-drill/" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">a 6-round rapid fire drill from 7 yards</a>. From previous shooting, I expected the pistol grip of the M1A1 to give it the edge, but after a few iterations, I was matching time and shooting more precisely with my worn-out old IBM. Though fun, and about 30 percent faster, I couldn’t keep the M2 from stringing rounds vertically. That’s great at 7 yards, but at any distance, full-auto fire would be pretty ineffective. </p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1jHtA6-intraArticleModule-16"></slot></div><h3 class="wp-block-heading article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Maintaining and Lubricating the M1 Carbine</h3><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Look to the internet for advice, and you’ll see any number of recommendations for properly lubricating your M1 Carbine, but the field manual FM-27 details it specifically. When in storage, generally all metal parts should be wiped with a light coating of preservative oil, and moving parts and bearing surfaces should be coated with lubricating oil for normal use. Disassemble into major components, but don’t remove the gas piston unless you know what you’re doing, the retaining nut should be staked into place and can come loose if not re-installed properly.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The M1 Garand requires the use of rifle grease, and that is prescribed for certain parts of the M1 Carbine in wet or other unfavorable conditions. This rifle grease, which is likely <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://brownells.dts2xn.net/c/2536217/60594/1625?subId1=OL-RV&sharedId=m1-carbine&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Ftools-cleaning%2Fgun-cleaning%2Fgun-oils-lubricants%2F130-a-mil-spec-grease%2F" rel="noreferrer noopener sponsored nofollow" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">Lubriplate 130-A</a> that was used for Garands, is to be dabbed with a finger onto the recess in the operating slide/actuator, under the lip of the receiver above the bolt, into locking recesses of the receiver, and on the bolt camming lug on the face of the hammer. </p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1jHtA6-intraArticleModule-17"></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Most of us don’t have buckets of spare parts to replace ones that wear out, and I’m not taking my carbine into combat, so I’m a bit more liberal with the grease. For recreational shooting, I’ve found that <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p4432023.m570.l1313&_nkw=GAA+grease&_sacat=0&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338826818&customid=OL-RV&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" rel="noreferrer noopener sponsored nofollow" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">GAA Grease (Grease, Automotive and Artillery)</a>, if you can find it, works great for lubricating, and it’s much easier to clean off than Lubriplate. </p><h2 class="wp-block-heading article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Buying Your Own M1 Carbine</h2><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">There are still lots of vintage M1 Carbines around, and they can satisfy both collectors and folks who want a fun, historic firearm to plink with and ride along in the truck. They are a reasonable self-defense firearm, and there are some options for quality M1 Carbine ammo that fulfill that purpose. You can find carbines at gun shows, the occasional pawn shop, and they’re regularly for sale on sites like Gunbroker. Good vintage carbines are reliable and will last another lifetime, but do some research. Even books like the technical manual listed above can give you great insight into what to look for and how to spot problems.</p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1jHtA6-intraArticleModule-18"></slot></div><h3 class="wp-block-heading article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Modern M1 Carbines</h3><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Unlike the M1 Garand, modern iterations of the M1 Carbine are still being made by Auto Ordnance. Not every part is directly interchangeable with GI carbines, but they are pretty true to form. I got both the M1 and M1A1 versions, and both came with nice walnut stocks and handguards (which do fit GI carbines). </p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Both models resemble early-model M1 Carbines, but feature an interesting mix of “older” and “newer” style parts. For example, they both feature some older-style parts, like a second-iteration barrel band and push-button safety, two-rivet handguards, and L-type rear sights. But they also have newer-shaped actuators/operating slides and newer-style three-lug magazine catches to use 30-round magazines. </p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The Auto Ordnance carbines shot well and were pretty reliable, though they did seem to be finicky about magazines and some ammo types. The feed ramps aren’t quite as deep as on my vintage IBM carbine, which was exceptionally reliable. I think that considering the price of vintage carbines, if you aren’t sure of what you’re getting, and you just want one to bang away with, these modern replicas are a good value and lots of fun.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;"><strong>Auto Ordnance M1 Carbine</strong></p><div class="product-image mb-7" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><a class="product-card-link" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&mi=16393&pw=281801&ctc=OL-RV&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.guns.com%2Ffirearms%2Frifles%2Fsemi-auto%2Fauto-ordnance-m1-carbine-30-carbine-not-specified-10-rounds-1-8-barrel-new%3Fp%3D581068" rel="noopener sponsored noreferrer nofollow" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank"></a><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/BB1jHjXJ"><a class="product-card-link" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&mi=16393&pw=281801&ctc=OL-RV&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.guns.com%2Ffirearms%2Frifles%2Fsemi-auto%2Fauto-ordnance-m1-carbine-30-carbine-not-specified-10-rounds-1-8-barrel-new%3Fp%3D581068" rel="noopener sponsored noreferrer nofollow" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank"><slot name="BB1jHtA6-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1jHjXJ"></slot></a><div class="article-image-slot" slot="BB1jHtA6-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1jHjXJ"><a class="product-card-link" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&mi=16393&pw=281801&ctc=OL-RV&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.guns.com%2Ffirearms%2Frifles%2Fsemi-auto%2Fauto-ordnance-m1-carbine-30-carbine-not-specified-10-rounds-1-8-barrel-new%3Fp%3D581068" rel="noopener sponsored noreferrer nofollow" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank"><cp-article-image :target="" style="--final-x: 136.5px; 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An attractive option is the Ruger 10/22 that’s styled after the M1 Carbine, wood handguard and all. I believe that the 10/22 took some inspiration from the M1 anyway, and this will be a reliable, fun plinker that you can pass down to your kids. </p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1jHtA6-intraArticleModule-19"></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">There are some other models of .22 LR M1 carbines that are quite accurate replicas and very cool, but use caution. I was testing one for this story, and blew the thing up. Some sleuthing and consulting led me to discover that the design is capable of firing when not fully in battery (something the .30 Carbine is designed to prevent), and if you get enough build up of wax or fouling, it can prevent a cartridge from chambering fully. Fired out of battery, it will break the gun and maybe you.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;"><strong>Ruger 10/22 M1 Carbine</strong></p><div class="product-image mb-7" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><a class="product-card-link" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&mi=16393&pw=281801&ctc=OL-RV&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.guns.com%2Ffirearms%2Frifles%2Fsemi-auto%2Fruger-10-22-carbine-22-lr-not-specified-15-rounds-18-5-barrel-new%3Fp%3D1195256" rel="noopener sponsored noreferrer nofollow" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank"></a><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/BB1jHjXL"><a class="product-card-link" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&mi=16393&pw=281801&ctc=OL-RV&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.guns.com%2Ffirearms%2Frifles%2Fsemi-auto%2Fruger-10-22-carbine-22-lr-not-specified-15-rounds-18-5-barrel-new%3Fp%3D1195256" rel="noopener sponsored noreferrer nofollow" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank"><slot name="BB1jHtA6-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1jHjXL"></slot></a><div class="article-image-slot" slot="BB1jHtA6-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1jHjXL"><a class="product-card-link" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&mi=16393&pw=281801&ctc=OL-RV&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.guns.com%2Ffirearms%2Frifles%2Fsemi-auto%2Fruger-10-22-carbine-22-lr-not-specified-15-rounds-18-5-barrel-new%3Fp%3D1195256" rel="noopener sponsored noreferrer nofollow" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank"><cp-article-image :target="" style="--final-x: 136.5px; 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It’s got a plastic, not walnut, stock, but it’s otherwise an accurate replica and a hell of a lot of fun. The bolt blows back and cycles with each shot, and with the weighted magazine, it doesn’t feel much different than the real thing.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;"><strong>Springfield Armory M1 Carbine BB Gun</strong></p><div class="product-image mb-7" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><a class="product-card-link" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.amazon.com/Venturi-Springfield-Blowback-Wood-Look-Synthetic/dp/B07MZ3WCL3" rel="noopener sponsored noreferrer nofollow" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank"></a><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/BB1jHrgQ"><a class="product-card-link" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.amazon.com/Venturi-Springfield-Blowback-Wood-Look-Synthetic/dp/B07MZ3WCL3" rel="noopener sponsored noreferrer nofollow" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank"><slot name="BB1jHtA6-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1jHrgQ"></slot></a><div class="article-image-slot" slot="BB1jHtA6-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1jHrgQ"><a class="product-card-link" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.amazon.com/Venturi-Springfield-Blowback-Wood-Look-Synthetic/dp/B07MZ3WCL3" rel="noopener sponsored noreferrer nofollow" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank"><cp-article-image :target="" style="--final-x: 136.5px; 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font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">See It</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"></span></p><h2 class="wp-block-heading article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">FAQ</h2><div class="schema-faq wp-block-yoast-faq-block" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><div class="schema-faq-section"><strong class="schema-faq-question">Can you legally own an M1 Carbine?</strong><p class="schema-faq-answer" data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Yes, in most states, you can legally own an M1 carbine.</p></div><div class="schema-faq-section"><strong class="schema-faq-question">How much are M1 Carbines going for?</strong><p class="schema-faq-answer" data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Typically, M1 Carbines are selling for $1,200 to $2,500. Rare collectibles fetch even more.</p></div><div class="schema-faq-section"><strong class="schema-faq-question">Is the M1 Carbine still produced?</strong><p class="schema-faq-answer" data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Yes, Auto Ordnance makes new M1 carbines, though they aren’t always a 100 percent compatible fit with vintage parts.</p></div><div class="schema-faq-section"><strong class="schema-faq-question">What is the difference between the M1 Rifle and M1 Carbine?</strong><p class="schema-faq-answer" data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The M1 Rifle or Garand is chambered in .30/06 Springfield, uses an internal magazine, and runs off a long-stroke gas piston. The M1 Carbine is chambered in the smaller .30 Carbine cartridge, uses a detachable magazine, and utilizes a short-stroke gas piston. </p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1jHtA6-intraArticleModule-20"></slot></div></div></div><h2 class="wp-block-heading article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Final Thoughts on the M1 Carbine</h2><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Like the <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.outdoorlife.com/guns/m1-garand/" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">M1 Garand</a>, the M1 Carbine is one of the United States’ most significant historical firearms. For using what we would consider today an effectively useless cartridge, the miniature M1 racked up decades of military service across the globe and in parallel, influenced a generation of shooters who grew up plinking and honing their marksmanship with them. They are a remarkable pleasure to shoot, and if you can get a nice vintage model, you might just feel a spark of connection with its past.</p>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-50135749398211784732024-03-09T09:00:00.003-05:002024-03-09T09:01:38.170-05:00Well there is symmetry...<p> Many years ago, when I got the "Precious" a.k.a my 1999 F150, </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgSLrEYbHmw1SAZKJDHQV76CT0bhr66EfsTeBQH_cvALt3w8Nr26NkcZP2qrxe8pjrTuNcpkBSsp0naYTZGIMCKwskrEnOVleh_6tj1Ah3HyG-gKouSJ26gFV5rvzeG-8C-QrcZBEpMs_rxoutS_j-WFQOfrs3-0Q2Ux3UK4rSReFvnpl2upex-IVao4LLC/s4032/20240303_155646.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="180" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgSLrEYbHmw1SAZKJDHQV76CT0bhr66EfsTeBQH_cvALt3w8Nr26NkcZP2qrxe8pjrTuNcpkBSsp0naYTZGIMCKwskrEnOVleh_6tj1Ah3HyG-gKouSJ26gFV5rvzeG-8C-QrcZBEpMs_rxoutS_j-WFQOfrs3-0Q2Ux3UK4rSReFvnpl2upex-IVao4LLC/s320/20240303_155646.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><br /><p>Yep, that is her, well I sold her to a friend of mine who wanted a super reliable truck for his son, and normally I wouldn't have, but he is my "brother from another mother" and he knew I had taken really good care of the truck. So I made him a fair offer and he was good with with it.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhpCixCwE1IxjHoYPeNJIaU2GpwvypynkP14ejZsGHoNL56XPmckvnK72lXyKoqgsm3_v1Nn6-FvtZcVWUPZ3lvJWXsWrSTRNCgnX3ZYDX7F2FV9LL0iDa7dLzeYbrIlG3nVpDlkYSmMTgpjLHtFib7Wg-Ki0v9jXllkVwNt-FWAVIzjXRHvjCPgDL_eIfE/s4032/20240307_184709.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="180" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhpCixCwE1IxjHoYPeNJIaU2GpwvypynkP14ejZsGHoNL56XPmckvnK72lXyKoqgsm3_v1Nn6-FvtZcVWUPZ3lvJWXsWrSTRNCgnX3ZYDX7F2FV9LL0iDa7dLzeYbrIlG3nVpDlkYSmMTgpjLHtFib7Wg-Ki0v9jXllkVwNt-FWAVIzjXRHvjCPgDL_eIfE/s320/20240307_184709.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><br /><p>I had clean up the truck and had her ready for her new owner, </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiw-NHwBWBp9yHkCAikIlRYTCPqNt0shVeVef0bKbjAtHzvTmvKN-Qxr9azJqn2-mkHR0UbtQGFIvFqI68qDwWd4DnvO-pZCfI-u1IflsimYm3EXgQJogHnF6TxfbuQhbqMLTsa8NZjqqTKIpCvQKyxU168vz_CNj8_wSXU4EoxzMxTvDvBZWMIRLwmH2Lz/s4032/20240307_193108.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="180" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiw-NHwBWBp9yHkCAikIlRYTCPqNt0shVeVef0bKbjAtHzvTmvKN-Qxr9azJqn2-mkHR0UbtQGFIvFqI68qDwWd4DnvO-pZCfI-u1IflsimYm3EXgQJogHnF6TxfbuQhbqMLTsa8NZjqqTKIpCvQKyxU168vz_CNj8_wSXU4EoxzMxTvDvBZWMIRLwmH2Lz/s320/20240307_193108.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><br /><p>There she is leaving. I was a bit bummed, best truck I ever had. </p><p> Well to the beginning of my blogpost, i and my son flew here...back to the Carolinas to get my new F150.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiF-WVDK2T28p_YNkyPgDWiEIalvBMkElU1N8eZNgexs4yZdTO0rgsY8O8JxSzg1J3PCTF6KHXjbsPwxDi3oVBOsZ-S9MZ2GBqH8rrFNGRFZYGqfQtrIhKyFB0qiPlB4fd0Io6ADk8jlrtb_wc7NNaBnk1IMxacSHd2gt9lOHhZQdGKSEu8e2-dX0I_WUWn/s4032/20240308_083008.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="180" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiF-WVDK2T28p_YNkyPgDWiEIalvBMkElU1N8eZNgexs4yZdTO0rgsY8O8JxSzg1J3PCTF6KHXjbsPwxDi3oVBOsZ-S9MZ2GBqH8rrFNGRFZYGqfQtrIhKyFB0qiPlB4fd0Io6ADk8jlrtb_wc7NNaBnk1IMxacSHd2gt9lOHhZQdGKSEu8e2-dX0I_WUWn/s320/20240308_083008.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><br /><p>Yep, to Charlotte, North Carolina to pick up my new truck from this place..</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgWqDykSgw5D791_85aZXxApBHADGWm04u0sF-OmlZvb9ZyhQok-iLb24Csre00c3ej_IYPkc4kGmJGMlMkXekz0GTUnF5QsSUGhs5-R3sCFWiWqHj_47XyQtduIicHPJdvjQsa5DoHK7YUvv_p5SID4cl1KanHkv1S2RSWUvo2AeO6J8vnj1Zy0vkPQIL4/s4032/20240308_093233.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="180" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgWqDykSgw5D791_85aZXxApBHADGWm04u0sF-OmlZvb9ZyhQok-iLb24Csre00c3ej_IYPkc4kGmJGMlMkXekz0GTUnF5QsSUGhs5-R3sCFWiWqHj_47XyQtduIicHPJdvjQsa5DoHK7YUvv_p5SID4cl1KanHkv1S2RSWUvo2AeO6J8vnj1Zy0vkPQIL4/s320/20240308_093233.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><br /><p>Yep, Capital Ford. I had found a slightly used F150 at a good price and bought it.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiAddX9d-g_tqqkTio-CTiO8J7pJNOcxIlvr8aUfp9dPqeSEaYomSIQWigElu9z1lKbbyDrh3EXo_plWwCUcLIa0wzM8MDfRXCDp1_RAVDp4ygfy8iI0-5qI-t3euj_AfGKcB9fuwGx-AVV7qcERHJntHiMBb5xD-u-wrUmOzQqRQR8aOcPQDOsP8R1-n2R/s4032/20240308_093200.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="180" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiAddX9d-g_tqqkTio-CTiO8J7pJNOcxIlvr8aUfp9dPqeSEaYomSIQWigElu9z1lKbbyDrh3EXo_plWwCUcLIa0wzM8MDfRXCDp1_RAVDp4ygfy8iI0-5qI-t3euj_AfGKcB9fuwGx-AVV7qcERHJntHiMBb5xD-u-wrUmOzQqRQR8aOcPQDOsP8R1-n2R/s320/20240308_093200.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><br /><p>Well she is RED, but an extended cab, I prefer extended cabs over super cabs. She is a 2021 F150 XLT with the sport and chrome package. I bought her outright., no note. So we drove home and on the way home we stopped at a little restaurant in Augusta called"<a href="https://www.wifesaverrestaurants.com/">Wifesavers</a>" </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjX2XNd1JoTAFe0hCl6HFw03aCkYlzV5Sbsuf7IOuzLrfwJPhuI2PXi4ISkyfc3efRFXvk_0RF1Lus9f4quSO1lSuc18r5pHqdeJjRBCbwvPTDldoJT18Qf4XY5Invd0_BczuIMWspgXc7Tec7Y5qsO9ZUtGZHVwKqUGhSV937tHtEQ4_DJF7hxT1QLQpFG/s4032/20240308_132606.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="180" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjX2XNd1JoTAFe0hCl6HFw03aCkYlzV5Sbsuf7IOuzLrfwJPhuI2PXi4ISkyfc3efRFXvk_0RF1Lus9f4quSO1lSuc18r5pHqdeJjRBCbwvPTDldoJT18Qf4XY5Invd0_BczuIMWspgXc7Tec7Y5qsO9ZUtGZHVwKqUGhSV937tHtEQ4_DJF7hxT1QLQpFG/s320/20240308_132606.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><br /><p>Yep, same place as all those ago, well the Mac and Cheese is favored by the wife, so we loaded up and continued driving. </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEif-1PoovupeYBJnSJ4ljA-O9iaH6mlERLuFoU9aYuj-F2h7UJdCYkGYVyOtsd3U5zqyr57YcWp2brAb8xodzOZmeuonwtTU09-JZJYUnyy_BytIvyCePVlae75FuOL7F_o-jIq7oIewif5bR-6j9niVlZWcEGwEd7ICVTBx3b98njuZIpEkr18Ll77doRS/s4032/20240308_173050.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="180" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEif-1PoovupeYBJnSJ4ljA-O9iaH6mlERLuFoU9aYuj-F2h7UJdCYkGYVyOtsd3U5zqyr57YcWp2brAb8xodzOZmeuonwtTU09-JZJYUnyy_BytIvyCePVlae75FuOL7F_o-jIq7oIewif5bR-6j9niVlZWcEGwEd7ICVTBx3b98njuZIpEkr18Ll77doRS/s320/20240308_173050.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><br /><p>Drove a lot different than "the Precious " more comfortable and a lot more bells and whistles, lemme tell you.</p><p> Yes, I did this off my kinda smart phone.....at work......again.........*sigh*</p>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-63112501809208103022024-03-06T08:39:00.002-05:002024-03-06T08:39:24.173-05:00Bittersweet day,<p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjnaNHkYyi5a7gYNdm8TPUzBZUoMd7h0B6F9Y7nzMWnwG75OCJWfByU5ahJt2UbMQBvUHgg1XhecjuOQMsWp-zfZPtVbb_AOFTv6xZ5hGO5lUVLhm5zbWSbn5y0qS0mZJhcgsi-dZXDwmGlLosdcCzb_zmY1oua54sEXbZff8wwpwDMB6bdOUNcmjB5p4Rw/s4032/20240303_155646.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjnaNHkYyi5a7gYNdm8TPUzBZUoMd7h0B6F9Y7nzMWnwG75OCJWfByU5ahJt2UbMQBvUHgg1XhecjuOQMsWp-zfZPtVbb_AOFTv6xZ5hGO5lUVLhm5zbWSbn5y0qS0mZJhcgsi-dZXDwmGlLosdcCzb_zmY1oua54sEXbZff8wwpwDMB6bdOUNcmjB5p4Rw/w400-h225/20240303_155646.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p>I was driving to work and it dawned on me, this is the last time I will be driving "The Precious " A.K.A my F150 to work, she got that nickname from a friend of mine because we are both kinda geeky, hey don't hate. Well anyway it is a "Lord of the Ring" reference because I babied that truck for the 11 years I owned her, did a few mods, and other things. That truck took me all over the southeast on Boy Scout adventures after adventures, was my range table, BBgun repair station, and a myriad of other things, I also used the height to do repairs on the house standing on the truck box. I "<a href="https://mydailykona.blogspot.com/search?q=F150">Posted many adventures and stories</a>" of that F150. Best truck I ever owned.</p><p> I am selling the truck to a friend of mine who wants a reliable truck for his son. I bought another F150 and I will include the pics in a few days.</p><p> Yes I am doing this from work on my kinda smart phone </p>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-29193624106185390652024-03-02T06:05:00.003-05:002024-03-02T06:17:29.100-05:00Been sooper busy<p><br /></p><p><br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjqm8NJSRhPkJKr-CxEfNbsZJajeHjacdzAWVPFKCk_eVTaoEFWGXZSHAAuG2PgUqSxkfak3BUdc7pL91FFA3NN6DjVIhHZWWa99iVtPrNE2iFyx5AtU3MFykN3_K_5n0SAFlaNcY3ZHBsTLExWIa_rYDJWL8gMOz5b1Oo5rLOybqT13B8H8Byl-L6VMHrq/s1600/shawshank.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="900" data-original-width="1600" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjqm8NJSRhPkJKr-CxEfNbsZJajeHjacdzAWVPFKCk_eVTaoEFWGXZSHAAuG2PgUqSxkfak3BUdc7pL91FFA3NN6DjVIhHZWWa99iVtPrNE2iFyx5AtU3MFykN3_K_5n0SAFlaNcY3ZHBsTLExWIa_rYDJWL8gMOz5b1Oo5rLOybqT13B8H8Byl-L6VMHrq/w640-h360/shawshank.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><p><br /></p><p> I have been super busy at work the past week. They opened up the overtime spigot wide open at my employer. All i have done the past week is work, eat occasionally, drive to and from work and sleep. Plus exercise. </p><p> A little secret of the airline industry is that January through May are busy times for us maintenance types, we are bringing the fleet back to 100% after flying the piss out of them during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Don't get me wrong, the planes at my employer and our competition are perfectly airworthy, but to keep them airworthy, we have a rolling maintenance schedule devised by Airbus and Boeing and we follow it to the letter, the FAA don't have a sense of humor about such things. Also airplanes are happy when they are flying, when they are sitting is when they start breaking., kinda like your car. If it sits all the time it breaks. </p><p> Well anyway we are bringing the planes back to 100% and filling the parts bins getting ready for the summer season. </p><p> So bear with me.</p><p><br /></p><p> I typed this off my kinda smart phone at</p><p>You guessed it.....work </p>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-37355554716684465222024-02-26T00:00:00.005-05:002024-02-26T00:00:00.474-05:00Watching a WWII movie and it triggered a memory,(No I ain't that old)<p> I was watching a movie last night(Sunday) called a "Bridge Too Far" one of my favorite movies along with "Midway", I liked the 1976 version and Yes I even liked the 2019 version, but I digress and they were talking about a "Bailey Bridge" and I remembered doing a blogpost so I rustled around and found it. I also added the soundtrack because I until recently did "Monday Music" and yes I will bring back.</p><p><br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen="" class="BLOG_video_class" height="266" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/XWBoMWZJkeI" width="320" youtube-src-id="XWBoMWZJkeI"></iframe></div><br /><p><br /></p><p><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;"> </span><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"> I considered a very accurate telling of a battle told in a movie format. It was neat seeing all these big name movie stars in the movie and I was living in Europe during the time this movie was filmed, I could relate to what I had seen on the screen. To me this movie was underrated and next to the film "</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midway_%28film%29" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">Midway</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">" is one of my favorite WWII movies.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /></p><div class="separator" style="background-color: white; clear: both; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiJBiS9UIERiwS7Vdd93uCbiPEJWCI6qK8NBVZeYW7qr8NPIjnXnZ0ty6T-z9tVdIjf-7oE4HRDc3gGYS_C3y_2w6F0nonKjKqZcoS51SHmE9YZY8O2hLcdtARDxEMTtS4ttHd_155_0FYV/s1600/10938591-1395838085-915902.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="color: #336699; margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-decoration-line: none;"><img border="0" data-original-height="600" data-original-width="477" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiJBiS9UIERiwS7Vdd93uCbiPEJWCI6qK8NBVZeYW7qr8NPIjnXnZ0ty6T-z9tVdIjf-7oE4HRDc3gGYS_C3y_2w6F0nonKjKqZcoS51SHmE9YZY8O2hLcdtARDxEMTtS4ttHd_155_0FYV/s400/10938591-1395838085-915902.jpg" style="border: none; position: relative;" width="317" /></a></div><p><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">The film tells the story of the failure of </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Market_Garden" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="Operation Market Garden">Operation Market Garden</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"> during </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="World War II">World War II</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">. The operation was intended to allow the </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allies_of_World_War_II" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="Allies of World War II">Allies</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"> to break through </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Germany" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="Nazi Germany">German</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"> lines and seize several bridges in the occupied </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="Netherlands">Netherlands</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">, including one at </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnhem" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="Arnhem">Arnhem</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">, with the main objective of outflanking German defenses in order to end the war by Christmas of 1944.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">The name for the film comes from an unconfirmed comment attributed to British Lieutenant-General </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Browning" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="Frederick Browning">Frederick Browning</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">, deputy commander of the </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Allied_Airborne_Army" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="First Allied Airborne Army">First Allied Airborne Army</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">, who told </span><a class="mw-redirect" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_Marshal" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="Field Marshal">Field Marshal</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"> </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Montgomery" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="Bernard Montgomery">Bernard Montgomery</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">, the operation's architect, before the operation: "I think we may be going a bridge too far", in reference to the intention of seizing the Arnhem bridgehead over the </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhine" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="Rhine">Rhine</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"> river.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">The </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ensemble_cast" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="Ensemble cast">ensemble cast</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"> includes </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirk_Bogarde" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="Dirk Bogarde">Dirk Bogarde</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">, </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Caan" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="James Caan">James Caan</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">, </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Caine" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="Michael Caine">Michael Caine</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">, </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Connery" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="Sean Connery">Sean Connery</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">, </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Fox_%28actor%29" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="Edward Fox (actor)">Edward Fox</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">, </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_Gould" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="Elliott Gould">Elliott Gould</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">, </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Hackman" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="Gene Hackman">Gene Hackman</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">, </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Hopkins" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="Anthony Hopkins">Anthony Hopkins</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">, </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardy_Kr%C3%BCger" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="Hardy Krüger">Hardy Krüger</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">, </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurence_Olivier" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="Laurence Olivier">Laurence Olivier</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">, </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_O%27Neal" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="Ryan O'Neal">Ryan O'Neal</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">, </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Redford" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="Robert Redford">Robert Redford</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">, </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_Schell" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="Maximilian Schell">Maximilian Schell</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"> and </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liv_Ullmann" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="Liv Ullmann">Liv Ullmann</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">. The music was scored by </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Addison" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="John Addison">John Addison</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">, who had served in the British </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XXX_Corps_%28United_Kingdom%29" style="background-color: white; color: #336699; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;" title="XXX Corps (United Kingdom)">XXX Corps</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"> during Market Garden.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"> </span></p><p><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /></p><div class="separator" style="background-color: white; clear: both; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen="" class="YOUTUBE-iframe-video" data-thumbnail-src="https://i.ytimg.com/vi/oTrO-B9sx3g/0.jpg" frameborder="0" height="266" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/oTrO-B9sx3g?feature=player_embedded" width="320"></iframe></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; text-align: center;">Building the Bailey Bridge over the River Son</div><div style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; text-align: center;"> This actually showed one being build.</div><div class="separator" style="background-color: white; clear: both; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgynlCwbeupKAwOfDFYz8VyzGrp2l28AFi17gcuuLcx3LUmsgNC5XGW7Sa5RYQ_KIa2vxEnmp5GrsvChdiXgeGVbRVhzRU3vdiggixctw3yA1xLVEwq7T7GOcnoHIu4FOElOwDMEPQ7Pcy1/s1600/a644b690ca13cea15a7d51b6bd2d5e52.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="color: #336699; margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-decoration-line: none;"><img border="0" data-original-height="505" data-original-width="800" height="252" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgynlCwbeupKAwOfDFYz8VyzGrp2l28AFi17gcuuLcx3LUmsgNC5XGW7Sa5RYQ_KIa2vxEnmp5GrsvChdiXgeGVbRVhzRU3vdiggixctw3yA1xLVEwq7T7GOcnoHIu4FOElOwDMEPQ7Pcy1/s400/a644b690ca13cea15a7d51b6bd2d5e52.jpg" style="border: none; position: relative;" width="400" /></a></div><p><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;">Picture an Allied tank commander in Europe, during Autumn, 1944. Advancing for days, destroying the German resistance. Nothing has been able to stop the invasion; except a blown bridge. Luckily, somewhere back in the supply columns which keep the army going, is a Bailey Bridge.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;">Donald Bailey, the designer of the Bailey Bridge, was born in Rotherham, in 1901. He received his BA in Engineering from the University of Sheffield in 1923. After graduating, he helped design railway bridges in the 1930s, but by 1940 he was working for the War Department.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;">In Christchurch, Southern England he and a group of other engineers, comprised MEXE (Military Experimental Establishment). They were designing and testing new engineering equipment for the British Army.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;">The Army at the time was facing a dilemma. They knew they would be required to fight in Europe, with its various canals, rivers, streams, and lakes. Any one of these could stop an army advancing, and they needed a foolproof way to cross them.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;">Collapsible and portable bridges had been around for hundreds of years, in various forms. By 1940, however, British weapons were outstripping engineering equipment.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;">Their tanks weighed more than 40 tons, but the heaviest portable bridge could hold only 26 tons. The Allies would be bogged down and delayed as engineers worked to repair existing bridges or build more permanent ones.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /></p><figure class="wp-caption aligncenter" id="attachment_274027" style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; width: 620px;"><img alt="A Bailey Bridge like this had to be constructed over the Son. This took precious time, but was eventually able to allow XXX Corps to continue their advance." class="size-large wp-image-274027" src="https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/iwm-na-7854-otter-lrc-grazzanise-194310-635x640.jpg" /><figcaption class="wp-caption-text">A Bailey Bridge like this had to be contructed to cross rivers. This took precious time but was eventually able to allow XXX Corps to continue their advance.</figcaption></figure><p><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;">Donald Bailey was being driven back to his headquarters building after a failed bridge test. The world seemed to be collapsing around England, and everything they tried seemed to fail. The War Department was desperate for a reliable bridge. Suddenly, Bailey had an idea. He began sketching it out on the back of an envelope.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /></p><figure class="wp-caption aligncenter" id="attachment_279910" style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; width: 620px;"><img alt="Engineers slide a Bailey Bridge section into place, almost every part of the bridge construction was done by hand. The only time heavy equipment was used was to lift pieces into high places. Image Source: " class="size-large wp-image-279910" src="https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/engineers_slide_bailey_bridging_into_place_at_wesel-640x446.jpg" /><figcaption class="wp-caption-text">Engineers slide a Bailey Bridge section into place, almost every part of the bridge construction was done by hand. The only time heavy equipment was used was to lift pieces into high places.</figcaption></figure><p><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;">It was an amazingly simple design. Prefabricated panels each made up of internal trusses. These were joined by pegs, with large beams running across the bridge’s width. This gave them not only the rigidity needed to span a large area, but they could be assembled with simple tools: sledgehammers, rollers, and wrenches.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /></p><figure class="wp-caption aligncenter" id="attachment_121628" style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; width: 620px;"><img alt="A destroyed Bailey Bridge and tank in Italy. While not indestructible, the bridges were easily replaced and cheap. They proved sturdy enough to stand up to almost any stress, but quick and cheap enough to be disposable." class="size-large wp-image-121628" src="https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/The_ruins_of_Cassino_May_1944-_a_wrecked_Sherman_tank_and_Bailey_bridge_in_the_foreground_with_Monastery_Ridge_and_Castle_Hill_in_the_background._TR1799-640x509.jpg" /><figcaption class="wp-caption-text">A destroyed Bailey Bridge and Sherman tank in Italy. While not indestructible, the bridges were easily replaced and cheap. They proved sturdy enough to stand up to almost any stress but quick and cheap enough to be disposable.</figcaption></figure><p><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;">Equally important, they were straightforward and cheap to produce. Almost any industrial fabricator could make the panels and pieces necessary, and mass production was a definite possibility. The Bailey Bridge had been born.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /></p><figure class="wp-caption aligncenter" id="attachment_276346" style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; width: 620px;"><img alt="An M10 tank destroyer crosses the bailey bridge near Son. " class="size-large wp-image-276346" src="https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/m10_tank_destroyers_crossing_a_bailey_bridge-640x600.jpg" /><figcaption class="wp-caption-text">An M10 tank destroyer crosses the Bailey Bridge.</figcaption></figure><p><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;">In the battlefield these bridges proved indispensable. Field Marshal Montgomery said they were necessary to the speed of the Allied advance during the war. In Italy and Sicily, over 55 miles of bridges were built, spanning everything from stream beds, to the 1,126 ft. Bridge over the Sangro River. The longest, which spanned the Chindwin River in Burma, was 1,154 ft.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;">After D-day, in France, the low countries, and Germany, Bailey Bridges were consistently used to replace many of the bridges destroyed by the retreating Germans. Famously, the Son bridge was replaced with one during Operation Market Garden, in September 1944; eventually allowing Allied armor to press forward and help seize Nijmegen.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /></p><figure class="wp-caption aligncenter" id="attachment_279904" style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; width: 620px;"><img alt="A bailey section in a memorial in Christchurch. The local proving grounds in the Stanpit Marshes saw the development of much of the engineering equipment of WW2." class="size-large wp-image-279904" src="https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/part_of_a_bailey_bridge_christchurch_dorset-640x480.jpg" /><figcaption class="wp-caption-text">A Bailey section in a memorial in Christchurch. The local Stanpit Marshes saw the development of much of the engineering equipment of WW2.</figcaption></figure><p><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;">Today Bailey style bridges are a fixture of almost any modern military. The materials have been upgraded, but the basic design, prefabricated, interlocking sections which can be put together a myriad of ways, has not changed.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;">Their use has expanded to the civilian life, where they are often used for disaster relief and are permanent fixtures in some areas. Bailey might not be the best-known hero from World War 2, but his contribution to the war effort was immense, and his memory, and legacy, can not be forgotten.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /></p><div class="separator" style="background-color: white; clear: both; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen="" class="YOUTUBE-iframe-video" data-thumbnail-src="https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Lq1cbKnDdco/0.jpg" frameborder="0" height="266" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Lq1cbKnDdco?feature=player_embedded" width="320"></iframe></div>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-83775872720025455332024-02-21T18:13:00.001-05:002024-02-21T18:13:17.333-05:00Another Attempt on an El Al Airliner<p> I get reports of incidents of Commercial Aircraft incidents and accidents from 3rd party sources, I believe English from the spelling and the sentence structure. But this one raised eyebrows. I betcha the Iranians are behind this one hoping the snare a airliner full of Israeli's, can you imagine the propaganda value, but of course it wouldn't be the Iranians, it would be the "rebels" in Somalia or the Houthi's with their "<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quds_Force">QUD's</a>" advisors. They would use them to try to get Bebi to back off the Gaza operation, especially since most of the hostages they seized in October 7th that are still in the hands of Hamas are most likely dead and Israel is after vengeance, and a whole new set of hostages would change the dynamics. This is why most of the western based airlines are avoiding the area because of crap like this, and the American carriers won't go anywhere near this area.</p><p><br /></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #212529; font-family: "IBM Plex Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><img alt="Photo of El Al 4X-EDJ, Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner" class="CToWUd a6T" data-bit="iit" data-image-whitelisted="" height="267" id="m_5697104541413656711Picture_x0020_1" src="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=63b361b583&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-f:1791420350621870673&th=18dc67514a38ea51&view=fimg&fur=ip&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ9rFtECyMZDlU-dmOCWAdhrWd45fgiHJzroDz7Ystf7f37V_LZx283fZ5Gyfx0goUTbMNCoVrAry4t22LXzVn5y_L0Tqr_gfpDN3FPd_OU--FWnBVMEcEal_ic&disp=emb" style="cursor: pointer; height: 7.1145in; outline: 0px; width: 10.6666in;" tabindex="0" width="400" /></span><span style="color: #212529; font-family: "IBM Plex Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #212529; font-family: "IBM Plex Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">El Al 4X-EDJ, Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner (Photo credit: <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.flickr.com/photos/26104073@N06/47067820024&source=gmail&ust=1708642824921000&usg=AOvVaw2FXZFc1Vugk8OJyZUnVvmM" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/26104073@N06/47067820024" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc; text-decoration-line: none;">tagsplanepics-lhr / Flickr</span></a> / License: <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/&source=gmail&ust=1708642824921000&usg=AOvVaw1x-3QA0OfX_yUdartaYbeR" href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc; text-decoration-line: none;">CC by-sa</span></a>)<u></u><u></u></span></p><h5 style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 1.25rem; margin: 0in 0in 0.75rem;"><span style="color: #212529; font-family: "IBM Plex Sans", sans-serif; font-weight: normal;">Incident Facts<u></u><u></u></span></h5><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1rem; margin-top: 0in;"><span style="color: #212529; font-family: "IBM Plex Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Date of incident<br /><strong>Feb 17, 2024</strong><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1rem; margin-top: 0in;"><span style="color: #212529; font-family: "IBM Plex Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Classification<br /><strong><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.aeroinside.com/incidents&source=gmail&ust=1708642824921000&usg=AOvVaw1-3nogbND3vlbTNVciMs2P" href="https://www.aeroinside.com/incidents" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc; text-decoration-line: none;">Incident</span></a></strong><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1rem; margin-top: 0in;"><span style="color: #212529; font-family: "IBM Plex Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Airline<br /><strong><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.aeroinside.com/airline/el-al&source=gmail&ust=1708642824921000&usg=AOvVaw1Os-7Vv1PIjJKXlHv0Iowo" href="https://www.aeroinside.com/airline/el-al" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc; text-decoration-line: none;">El Al</span></a></strong><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1rem; margin-top: 0in;"><span style="color: #212529; font-family: "IBM Plex Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Flight number<br /><strong><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.aeroinside.com/flight/ly-88&source=gmail&ust=1708642824921000&usg=AOvVaw1lFSEsZG49kR-5C_L_yJ5n" href="https://www.aeroinside.com/flight/ly-88" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc; text-decoration-line: none;">LY-88</span></a></strong><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1rem; margin-top: 0in;"><span style="color: #212529; font-family: "IBM Plex Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Departure<br /><strong><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.aeroinside.com/flights/from/phuket/th&source=gmail&ust=1708642824921000&usg=AOvVaw2p0pwIWp6ULUVP2w2jmVfG" href="https://www.aeroinside.com/flights/from/phuket/th" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc; text-decoration-line: none;">Phuket, Thailand</span></a></strong><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1rem; margin-top: 0in;"><span style="color: #212529; font-family: "IBM Plex Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Destination<br /><strong><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.aeroinside.com/flights/to/tel-aviv/il&source=gmail&ust=1708642824921000&usg=AOvVaw07jXSt40jFmSaU-K1BA37k" href="https://www.aeroinside.com/flights/to/tel-aviv/il" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc; text-decoration-line: none;">Tel Aviv, Israel</span></a></strong><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1rem; margin-top: 0in;"><span style="color: #212529; font-family: "IBM Plex Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Aircraft Registration<br /><strong><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.aeroinside.com/registration/4x-edj&source=gmail&ust=1708642824921000&usg=AOvVaw0G1P3flk7XhgOv1sTpJG1b" href="https://www.aeroinside.com/registration/4x-edj" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc; text-decoration-line: none;">4X-EDJ</span></a></strong><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1rem; margin-top: 0in;"><span style="color: #212529; font-family: "IBM Plex Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Aircraft Type<br /><strong><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.aeroinside.com/aircraft-type/b789/boeing-787-9-dreamliner&source=gmail&ust=1708642824921000&usg=AOvVaw1a1qjX9Ti579HbZqbtjvtb" href="https://www.aeroinside.com/aircraft-type/b789/boeing-787-9-dreamliner" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc; text-decoration-line: none;">Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner</span></a></strong><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1rem; margin-top: 0in;"><span style="color: #212529; font-family: "IBM Plex Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">ICAO Type Designator<br /><strong><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.aeroinside.com/aircraft-type/b789/boeing-787-9-dreamliner&source=gmail&ust=1708642824921000&usg=AOvVaw1a1qjX9Ti579HbZqbtjvtb" href="https://www.aeroinside.com/aircraft-type/b789/boeing-787-9-dreamliner" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc; text-decoration-line: none;">B789</span></a></strong><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><span class="m_5697104541413656711mb-4"><span style="color: #212529; font-family: "IBM Plex Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">An El Al Boeing 787-9, registration 4X-EDJ performing flight LY-88 from Phuket (Thailand) to Tel Aviv (Israel), was enroute at FL400 over Somalia when the crew received instructions via ATC frequency that were in conflict with the flight plan. The crew ignored the instructions, switched to a different communication method and continued to Tel Aviv for a safe landing about 3.5 hours later.</span></span><span style="color: #212529; font-family: "IBM Plex Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br /><br /><span class="m_5697104541413656711mb-4">The airline reported a "hostile elements" attempted to take over communication with the aircraft on Saturday (Feb 17th) night and divert it from its destination. This had been the second such incident in the area. Crews have been informed about frequent communication interruptions in that area and frequency and have received instructions of how to handle the flight professionally when this happens.</span></span></p>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-10644992102404139302024-02-17T10:54:00.003-05:002024-02-17T10:54:27.131-05:00"Our Dysfunctional Overclass"<p><span style="font-size: medium;"> I saw this article and the information did and didn't surprise me, It talked about our "Cloud People" and what they believed and what they would like to do to us "dirt People" you know the "Hoi Pelloi". We are down in the Gunshine State visiting my brother and Sis in law in the panhandle near Destin</span>.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: futura-pt, sans-serif; font-size: 1.1em; line-height: 2; margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding-bottom: 20px;">What does America's overclass think of the rest of us? The short answer is "not much." They think ordinary people's splurging on natural resources is destroying the planet and needs to be cut back forcefully. And that the government needs to stamp down on ordinary people enjoying luxuries that, in their view, should be reserved for the top elites.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: futura-pt, sans-serif; font-size: 1.1em; line-height: 2; margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding-bottom: 20px;">These are the implications of the results of two surveys of elite people conducted by pollster Scott Rasmussen by the Committee to Unleash Prosperity, an organization that supports low tax rates and low government spending. The surveys covered not large swaths of the population but were confined to the top 1% of society.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: futura-pt, sans-serif; font-size: 1.1em; line-height: 2; margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding-bottom: 20px;">One survey, the Elite, included only respondents with postgraduate degrees, household incomes above $150,000 and residents in a ZIP code with more than 10,000 people per square mile. Another, Ivy League graduates, included adults who attended Ivy League or other selective private colleges such as Chicago, Duke, Northwestern or Stanford.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: futura-pt, sans-serif; font-size: 1.1em; line-height: 2; margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding-bottom: 20px;">You probably won't be surprised that the large majority of this Elite feels economically well off. Nor, if you've kept up with recent changes in party identification, will you be much surprised that 73% of these elites identify as Democrats and only 14% as Republicans.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: futura-pt, sans-serif; font-size: 1.1em; line-height: 2; margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding-bottom: 20px;">What is surprising is the extent to which this American overclass would deprive its fellow citizens of things they have taken for granted. Half of these groups, 47% of Elites and 55% of Ivies, say the United States provides people with "too much individual freedom."</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: futura-pt, sans-serif; font-size: 1.1em; line-height: 2; margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding-bottom: 20px;">More than three-quarters favor, "to fight climate change, the strict rationing of energy, gas, and meat," a proposition rejected by 63% of the public. Again, "to fight climate change," between half and two-thirds favor bans on gas stoves (a recent target despite demurrals of Biden bureaucrats and New York state Democrats), gasoline-powered cars (heavily disfavored by Biden Democrats and California rules) and SUVs, "private" air conditioning and "nonessential air travel."</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: futura-pt, sans-serif; font-size: 1.1em; line-height: 2; margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding-bottom: 20px;">The ascetic economist Thorstein Veblen, in his 1899 book "The Theory of the Leisure Class," argued that the rich engaged in "conspicuous consumption" activities such as golf, polo and art collecting, for which ordinary people had neither the time nor the money.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: futura-pt, sans-serif; font-size: 1.1em; line-height: 2; margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding-bottom: 20px;">A century and a quarter later, America has rich people hoping to deprive ordinary people of "conspicuous consumption" activities they can afford and where they clutter up the airports, interstate highways and high-end malls.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: futura-pt, sans-serif; font-size: 1.1em; line-height: 2; margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding-bottom: 20px;">For generations, Democrats have liked to portray themselves as the tribune of the little man, the defender of policies that enable ordinary people without special advantages, or with many disadvantages, to live comfortably, securely and in dignity. There may be some condescension in this posture, but also a considerable element of respect</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: futura-pt, sans-serif; font-size: 1.1em; line-height: 2; margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding-bottom: 20px;">This survey shows that today, this 1% of the public, which includes virtually all elective and appointive Democrats in Washington and states like California, New York and New Jersey, tends to see the bulk of its fellow citizens as selfish and destructive, in need not just of discipline but deserving of harsh restrictions on their freedoms.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: futura-pt, sans-serif; font-size: 1.1em; line-height: 2; margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding-bottom: 20px;">This attitude is echoed by the wider group of Democratic voters. A 2023 Pew Research survey shows that while 31% of Republicans, even with their party out of power, think America "stands above all other countries in the world," only 9% of Democrats do so.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: futura-pt, sans-serif; font-size: 1.1em; line-height: 2; margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding-bottom: 20px;">It's an unstable and dangerous situation when a largely one-party elite looks, with fear and loathing, across what Rasmussen describes as a "Grand Canyon gap" between it and its multiparty fellow citizens. It's reminiscent somehow of the "let them eat cake" French royalists in 1789 or Russian nobles in 1917. An overclass this disconnected and contemptuous risks disruption.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: futura-pt, sans-serif; font-size: 1.1em; line-height: 2; margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding-bottom: 20px;">A better approach comes from an undoubted member of America's elite, JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon. Speaking to CNBC at Davos last month, Dimon recounted a bus trip to Spokane and Boise and Bozeman: "People are growing. They're hungry to grow. They're innovating. It's everywhere. It's not just Silicon Valley."</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: futura-pt, sans-serif; font-size: 1.1em; line-height: 2; margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding-bottom: 20px;">Perhaps aware the Mountain West votes Republican, Dimon, who calls himself a centrist Democrat, conceded that former President Donald Trump "wasn't wrong about some of the critical issues" and was "kind of right" about NATO and immigration and "grew the economy quite well."</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: futura-pt, sans-serif; font-size: 1.1em; line-height: 2; margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding-bottom: 20px;">Of elite Democrats' contempt for Trump supporters, he had less to say. "The Democrats have done a good job with the deplorables, hugging their Bibles and their beer and their guns. I mean, really? Can we stop that stuff and actually grow up and treat other people respectfully and listen to them a little bit?"</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: futura-pt, sans-serif; font-size: 1.1em; line-height: 2; margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding-bottom: 20px;" tpd-no-ad-injection="true">It's a question other members of our dysfunctional overclass might ask themselves.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: futura-pt, sans-serif; font-size: 1.1em; line-height: 2; margin: 0px 0px 10px; padding-bottom: 20px;" tpd-no-ad-injection="true">Michael Barone is a senior political analyst for the Washington Examiner, resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and longtime co-author of The Almanac of American Politics. His new book, "Mental Maps of the Founders: How Geographic Imagination Guided America's Revolutionary Leaders," is now available.</p>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-45653498064396997052024-02-15T19:43:00.009-05:002024-02-15T19:46:35.129-05:0010 of the largest Military Tanks in History.<p> I ran across this in Slash Gear, I'm still trying to find the information for my other post I am trying to work on....I didn't realize how many articles I had on President Trump....</p><p class="continue-read-break" data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px; opacity: 1; position: static;"><br /></p><p class="continue-read-break" data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px; opacity: 1; position: static;"><br /></p><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilFwi" data-is-first="true" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="BB1ilHV0-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilFwi"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container" data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="BB1ilFwi" style="height: 437px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><div class="article-image-height-wrapper expandable article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-customhandled="true" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" style="border-radius: 6px; cursor: zoom-in; height: 381px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;"><img alt="Challenger II tank ready to fire" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new expandable" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1ilFwi.img?w=768&h=431&m=6" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform-origin: 0px 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto;" title="Challenger II tank ready to fire" /></div><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container" style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">Challenger II tank ready to fire</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Finnbarr Webster/Getty Images</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;"><span class="dropcap-element-slot" style="float: left; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 64px; line-height: 52px; margin-inline-end: 8px;">B</span>y their very nature, <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.slashgear.com/1362250/object-279-soviet-tank/" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">tanks are heavy</a>. After all, they are armored vehicles that often have inches of hardened armor to protect those inside and huge main guns that are capable of destroying other tanks (or almost anything else in their way). Since their introduction a century ago, tanks have played an essential role in warfare, and their designs are often a compromise between firepower and armor against maneuverability and mobility.</p><p class="continue-read-break" data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px; opacity: 1; position: static;">That means that many tanks are not only <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.slashgear.com/1500250/most-expensive-military-tanks-ever-built/" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">very expensive to build</a> but also incredibly heavy, especially if the aim for the tank isn't for it to move around at high speed. With so much hardware to fit into the vehicles, ranging from massive engines to fire control systems and ammunition, even modern tanks can weigh several dozen tons. Here, we are going to look at the heaviest tanks ever built, all the way from the First World War to the modern era.<slot name="cont-read-break"></slot></p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">For this article, we've listed all tank weights in metric tons, which is equivalent to 1000 kilograms or 2204 pounds. This is to avoid confusion with short and long tons that are often used. We've also limited our scope to tanks that had units or working prototypes built, although they may not necessarily have entered active service.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Read more: <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.slashgear.com/1361079/oldest-locomotives-trains-still-in-service-today/?zsource=msnsyndicated" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">11 Of The Oldest Locomotives Still In Service Today</a></p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; clear: both; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">K2 Black Panther — 55 Tons</h2><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilB1U" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="BB1ilHV0-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilB1U"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="BB1ilHV0-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilB1U"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container" data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="BB1ilB1U" style="height: 437px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="K2 Black Panther driving on street" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-customhandled="true" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" tabindex="0" target="_self" title="Full screen"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><div class="article-image-height-wrapper expandable article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-customhandled="true" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" style="border-radius: 6px; cursor: zoom-in; height: 381px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;"><div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: 50% 50%; background-repeat: no-repeat; background-size: cover; background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1ilB1U.img?w=768&h=431&m=6") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 381px;"></div><img alt="K2 Black Panther driving on street" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new expandable" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1ilB1U.img?w=768&h=431&m=6" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform-origin: 0px 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto;" title="K2 Black Panther driving on street" /></div><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container" style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">K2 Black Panther driving on street</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Bloomberg/Getty Images</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.slashgear.com/1442772/south-korea-k2-black-panther-tank/" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">K2 Black Panther</a> is a recent addition to the world of main battle tanks. Built for the South Korean military, it only entered service in 2014 after some 10 years of development. Due to the threat posed by North Korea and its allies, the tank is designed to be highly mobile so that it can strike hard and fast. 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Its Tognum MT 833 diesel engine allows it to reach top speeds of up to 42 miles per hour on smooth terrain. Thanks to its advanced fire control system, which allows it to target and fire on enemy units that are up to six miles away, and its smart network features for sharing information, the tank is among the most expensive on the planet with an estimated price of $8.5 million.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">In many ways, the K2 Black Panther is very similar to the M1 Abrams. This is perhaps due to the close relationship South Korea shares with the United States. However, the K2 is significantly lighter than its counterparts, despite featuring modular composite and Explosive Reactive Armor, and weighs just 55 tons.</p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; clear: both; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">M103 Heavy Tank — 62 Tons</h2><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilwfG" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="BB1ilHV0-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilwfG"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="BB1ilHV0-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilwfG"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container" data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="BB1ilwfG" style="height: 437px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="M103 heavy tank " class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-customhandled="true" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" tabindex="0" target="_self" title="Full screen"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><div class="article-image-height-wrapper expandable article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-customhandled="true" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" style="border-radius: 6px; cursor: zoom-in; height: 381px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;"><div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: 50% 50%; background-repeat: no-repeat; background-size: cover; background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1ilwfG.img?w=768&h=431&m=6") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 381px;"></div><img alt="M103 heavy tank" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new expandable" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1ilwfG.img?w=768&h=431&m=6" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform-origin: 0px 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto;" title="M103 heavy tank" /></div><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container" style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">M103 heavy tank</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Wikimedia Commons Public Domain</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">While the most famous tank to serve in the U.S. military is undoubtedly the M1 Abrams, American forces had another workhorse that predated it by almost two decades. The M103 is a heavy tank, a classification of vehicle that includes tanks that were produced during World War I and continued to be used through the Cold War. These tanks became popular in the Second World War because their increased firepower made them a bigger threat on the battlefield, while the heavier, thickened steel armor protected them from most forms of attack.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">However, they eventually fell out of favor when advances in technology meant that medium tanks could have similar levels of protection and firepower in a far more maneuverable form. That's the fate of the M103, which was ultimately replaced by the superior M1 Abrams. That didn't stop it from being an effective tool while it was in operation, though, and around 300 of them were produced between 1957 and 1974. Manufactured by Chrysler, the tank had a total weight of 62 tons and was both longer and wider than the M1 Abrams.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Much of that weight came from the impressive 120mm M58 main gun and up to five inches of steel armor at the forward position. The M103 also came equipped with an M89 turret for close-quarters combat but was limited by its top speed of just 21 miles per hour and its range of less than 100 miles. As it never saw active combat, it is not possible to know exactly how effective this tank was, yet there's no denying it was one of the heaviest ever built.</p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; clear: both; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Leopard 2 — 64.5 To 67 Tons</h2><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilwfO" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="BB1ilHV0-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilwfO"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="BB1ilHV0-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilwfO"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container" data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="BB1ilwfO" style="height: 437px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="Leopard 2 on mud" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-customhandled="true" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" tabindex="0" target="_self" title="Full screen"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><div class="article-image-height-wrapper expandable article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-customhandled="true" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" style="border-radius: 6px; cursor: zoom-in; height: 381px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;"><div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: 50% 50%; background-repeat: no-repeat; background-size: cover; background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1ilwfO.img?w=768&h=431&m=6") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 381px;"></div><img alt="Leopard 2 on mud" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new expandable" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1ilwfO.img?w=768&h=431&m=6" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform-origin: 0px 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto;" title="Leopard 2 on mud" /></div><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container" style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">Leopard 2 on mud</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Sascha Schuermann/Getty Images</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Among the most expensive and widely used main battle tanks in the world, the Leopard 2 is a German-made tank that was first introduced in 1979 and has since gone on to become the backbone of more than a dozen nations' military forces. A third-generation tank, it is Germany's equivalent of the Challenger II and M1 Abrams, and has seen more than 3,600 units produced over the last 40 years. The Leopard 2's versatility, maneuverability, and advanced technology makes it a standout tank, with the most recent models costing in the region of $30 million each.</p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; float: inline-start; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 680px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1ilHV0-intraArticleModule-3"></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Standard Leopard 2 tanks feature a 120mm main cannon, two 7.62mm machine guns, and a 1,500-horsepower engine that allows the tank to reach a top speed of 42 miles per hour. In terms of armor, the German tank boasts modular armor that includes hardened steel, tungsten, and titanium to ensure it can withstand direct hits. The current Leopard 2A7V model has a weight of around 64.5 tons. However, the sheer number of different models means that there is a wide range of weights for each variant of the Leopard 2. 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Less than 500 were created, despite an order of more than 1,500 from Germany's high command, due to British RAF bombing campaigns that severely damaged facilities responsible for manufacturing the tank. A successor to the Tiger I, this new tank was more mobile than its predecessor and also included a number of notable improvements, including more effective sloping armor and a more powerful engine.</p><div class="intra-article-module-bottom-slot" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; float: inline-start; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; width: 680px;"><slot name="BB1ilHV0-bottom-intraArticleModule"></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The need for a heavier and better-protected tank led to the Tiger II weighing significantly more than the Tiger I, with a mass of 68 tons. Much of that weight was due to the newly produced 88mm KwK 43 main gun (which gave the tank a maximum firing range of around 6 miles and allowed it to effectively take down opposing tanks) and six-inch thick armor to defend it from incoming attack.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The Tiger II played an important role at the Normandy landings and was arguably the most deadly tank that was in active operation at that stage of the war. Manned by a crew of five individuals, the Tiger II had a top speed of just under 26 miles per hour and could travel cross-country at more than 12 miles per hour.</p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; clear: both; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">M1 Abrams — 71.2 Tons</h2><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilHUG" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="BB1ilHV0-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilHUG"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="BB1ilHV0-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilHUG"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container" data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="BB1ilHUG" style="height: 437px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="M1 Abrams in Australia" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-customhandled="true" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" tabindex="0" target="_self" title="Full screen"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><div class="article-image-height-wrapper expandable article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-customhandled="true" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" style="border-radius: 6px; cursor: zoom-in; height: 381px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;"><div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: 50% 50%; background-repeat: no-repeat; background-size: cover; background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1ilHUG.img?w=768&h=431&m=6") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 381px;"></div><img alt="M1 Abrams in Australia" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new expandable" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1ilHUG.img?w=768&h=431&m=6" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform-origin: 0px 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto;" title="M1 Abrams in Australia" /></div><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container" style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">M1 Abrams in Australia</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Ian Hitchcock/Getty Images</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Wherever the U.S. Army has fought over the last four decades, the <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.slashgear.com/1278750/why-abrams-m1-best-tank-ever-made/" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">M1 Abrams</a> has steadfastly provided armored support. The main battle tank has proven to be an incredible success story; there have been approximately 10,000 produced since they were first introduced in 1980. Named after General Creighton W. Abrams, the tank has gone through dozens of revisions over the years, with the M1A2 SEP Abrams being the most recent version.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Costing over $10 million per unit, the M1 Abrams is not only one of the heaviest tanks ever created but also among the most expensive. The most widely used tank across the globe, it has seen action in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Yemen, and is used by the militaries of such countries as Australia, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The tank now comes fitted with a 120 mm L/44 M256 smoothbore gun (but has previously been equipped with a 105 mm L/52 M68A1 rifled gun), has a 1,500-horsepower engine, and can reach a top speed of 42 miles per hour. The M1A2 SEP also features graphite-coated armor and the Trophy active protection system, adding further defensive capabilities. This variant weighs a total of 71.2 tons, up from the 60-ton weight of the original model.</p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; clear: both; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Challenger 2 — 75 Tons</h2><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilFww" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="BB1ilHV0-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilFww"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="BB1ilHV0-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilFww"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container" data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="BB1ilFww" style="height: 437px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="A Challenger II tank" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-customhandled="true" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" tabindex="0" target="_self" title="Full screen"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><div class="article-image-height-wrapper expandable article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-customhandled="true" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" style="border-radius: 6px; cursor: zoom-in; height: 381px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;"><div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: 50% 50%; background-repeat: no-repeat; background-size: cover; background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1ilFww.img?w=768&h=431&m=6") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 381px;"></div><img alt="A Challenger II tank" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new expandable" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1ilFww.img?w=768&h=431&m=6" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform-origin: 0px 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto;" title="A Challenger II tank" /></div><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container" style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">A Challenger II tank</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Leon Neal/Getty Images</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.slashgear.com/1444868/uk-challenger-2-tank-never-destroyed/" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">Challenger 2</a> has become one of the most reliable and versatile main battle tanks of recent times. Essentially, it is the UK's answer to the M1 Abrams and the Leopard 2, and it first entered service in 1994. Since then, it has become the mainstay of the British Army and it is also used by the Oman military and Ukraine in its defensive efforts against Russia. The innovative Dorchester 2 armor provides it with plenty of protection against anti-tank weaponry, while the powerful 120mm L30 rifled gun gives the tank its main form of attack. There's also two 7.62mm chain guns to provide close protection from infantry attack.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Costing around $5 million to produce, the Challenger 2 is capable of reaching top speeds of 37 miles per hour and requires a crew of four to operate it. Around 400 of them have been built since 1998, and it is an <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.slashgear.com/1242763/12-most-impressive-tanks-of-all-time/" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">incredibly successful vehicle</a>. It was only in 2023 that a Challenger 2 tank was destroyed by enemy forces, with previous losses coming only due to friendly fire. Typically, the Challenger 2 only weighs around 64 tons; still a heavy vehicle but not quite as massive as other tanks. However, the tank can be outfitted with a number of optional armor modules to provide extra protection, and some of these can take the overall mass to 75 tons.</p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; clear: both; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Char 2C — 69 To 77 Tons</h2><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilwfZ" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="BB1ilHV0-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilwfZ"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="BB1ilHV0-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilwfZ"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container" data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="BB1ilwfZ" style="height: 437px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="A Char 2C crossing river" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-customhandled="true" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" tabindex="0" target="_self" title="Full screen"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><div class="article-image-height-wrapper expandable article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-customhandled="true" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" style="border-radius: 6px; cursor: zoom-in; height: 381px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;"><div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: 50% 50%; background-repeat: no-repeat; background-size: cover; background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1ilwfZ.img?w=768&h=431&m=6") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 381px;"></div><img alt="A Char 2C crossing river" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new expandable" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1ilwfZ.img?w=768&h=431&m=6" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform-origin: 0px 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto;" title="A Char 2C crossing river" /></div><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container" style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">A Char 2C crossing river</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Topical Press Agency/Getty Images</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Many of the heaviest tanks come from the era of the First and Second World Wars. This was a time when tanks first entered service, and designers were constantly looking to improve them to make them more effective machines of war. Yet, the technology of the day often meant that these tanks were limited in terms of their mobility and weight, especially when they were intended to be heavily fortified and use incredibly powerful weapons. That was certainly the case with the French-made Char 2C, a super-heavy tank that was created with the intention of being larger and heavier than any other tank of the era.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Design for the Char 2C began during the First World War but wouldn't be completed until 1921 when it first entered service. However, the vehicle saw little action and they were intentionally destroyed when Nazi Germany invaded France during the Second World War to prevent them from being captured and used against the French. Just 10 of these behemoths were put into service and they were mainly seen as a propaganda effort to keep the French population content after the success of British and German tanks during the First World War.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">While other tanks have been heavier than the Char 2C, it is considered to be the heaviest of those that were in operation and were not mere prototypes. While there is some debate over their exact weight, estimates suggest that it is anywhere between 69 tons and 77 tons. That makes sense considering the huge size of the Char 2C, which was more than 33 feet long and required a crew of 12 to run.</p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; clear: both; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Tortoise Heavy Assault Tank — 79 Tons</h2><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilwg1" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="BB1ilHV0-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilwg1"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="BB1ilHV0-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilwg1"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container" data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="BB1ilwg1" style="height: 437px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="Tortoise heavy assault tank" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-customhandled="true" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" tabindex="0" target="_self" title="Full screen"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><div class="article-image-height-wrapper expandable article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-customhandled="true" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" style="border-radius: 6px; cursor: zoom-in; height: 381px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;"><div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: 50% 50%; background-repeat: no-repeat; background-size: cover; background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1ilwg1.img?w=768&h=431&m=6") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 381px;"></div><img alt="Tortoise heavy assault tank" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new expandable" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1ilwg1.img?w=768&h=431&m=6" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform-origin: 0px 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto;" title="Tortoise heavy assault tank" /></div><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container" style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">Tortoise heavy assault tank</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Wikimedia Commons Public Domain</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">World War II posed many challenges for the Allied forces. Germany had built up extensive fortifications during the war and in the run-up to the start of the conflict, with the Atlantic Wall and Siegfried Line being two of the most famous examples. Even the most powerful tanks and gun platforms would pose little threat to these heavily fortified positions as they often included devastating weapons, bunkers, and strong barriers. With an invasion of Europe from the UK necessary to defeat German forces, plans were put in place to create tanks that would be able to destroy such fortifications and allow Allied troops to break through.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The Tortoise heavy assault tank was the result of these plans, although production only began near the end of the Second World War and they never had the chance to enter active service. With the war concluded and hostilities over, in addition to newer designs being commissioned for future tanks, the Tortoise heavy assault tank was shelved after just six of them had been fully constructed.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The purpose of the tank, though, meant that those that were created were incredibly heavy and large. To withstand enemy fire from fortified positions, the Tortoise heavy assault tank had armor that was up to nine inches thick. It came equipped with an Ordnance QF 32-pounder 94mm gun capable of easily penetrating German tanks, along with several machine gun turrets. At 79 tons, the tank was only able to travel at a top speed of 12 miles per hour.</p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; clear: both; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">T28 Super Heavy Tank — 95 Tons</h2><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilwg7" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="BB1ilHV0-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilwg7"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="BB1ilHV0-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilwg7"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container" data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="BB1ilwg7" style="height: 437px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="T28 Super Heavy Tank on display" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-customhandled="true" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" tabindex="0" target="_self" title="Full screen"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><div class="article-image-height-wrapper expandable article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-customhandled="true" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" style="border-radius: 6px; cursor: zoom-in; height: 381px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;"><div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: 50% 50%; background-repeat: no-repeat; background-size: cover; background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1ilwg7.img?w=768&h=431&m=6") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 381px;"></div><img alt="T28 Super Heavy Tank on display" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new expandable" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1ilwg7.img?w=768&h=431&m=6" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform-origin: 0px 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto;" title="T28 Super Heavy Tank on display" /></div><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container" style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">T28 Super Heavy Tank on display</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Schierbecker/Wikipedia</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">With many nations constructing super-heavy tanks during both World Wars, including the French Char 2C and the British Tortoise heavy assault tank, it became necessary for the U.S. to develop its own model to ensure it wouldn't be left behind. The T28 Super Heavy Tank was designed for much the same purpose as the Tortoise heavy assault tank: to break through fortified positions such as the Siegfried Line. To do so, it needed to be both heavily armed and armored.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Crewed by a team of four, the T28 was over 36 feet long and almost 15 feet wide, with a top speed of eight miles per hour. The first designs for the vehicle came in 1944, with production starting in 1945. Like its British counterpart, by the time the first two models were completed, the need for these super heavy assault tanks had gone, as Allied troops had successfully invaded Europe and reached Germany. Production was quickly canceled in favor of more conventional tank designs.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">With armor that reached a maximum thickness of up to 12 inches and a 105mm T5E1 gun that had a muzzle velocity of 3,500 feet per second, the T28 was the largest tank the U.S. Army had ever constructed at the time and weighed a staggering 95 tons. This massive weight was one of the reasons that the T28 project was ultimately shelved, as it made it impractical to transport.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">[Featured image by Schierbecker via <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T28_Super_Heavy_Tank#/media/File:T28_Super_Heavy_Tank_US_Army_Armor_&_Cavalry_Collection.jpg" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">Wikimedia Commons</a> | Cropped and scaled | <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">CC BY-SA 4.0</a>]</p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; clear: both; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Panzer VIII Maus — 188 Tons</h2><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilwga" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="BB1ilHV0-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilwga"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="BB1ilHV0-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1ilwga"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container" data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="BB1ilwga" style="height: 437px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="Panzer VIII Maus on display" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-customhandled="true" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" tabindex="0" target="_self" title="Full screen"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><div class="article-image-height-wrapper expandable article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-customhandled="true" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" style="border-radius: 6px; cursor: zoom-in; height: 381px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;"><div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: 50% 50%; background-repeat: no-repeat; background-size: cover; background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1ilwga.img?w=768&h=431&m=6") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 381px;"></div><img alt="Panzer VIII Maus on display" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new expandable" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1ilwga.img?w=768&h=431&m=6" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform-origin: 0px 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto;" title="Panzer VIII Maus on display" /></div><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container" style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">Panzer VIII Maus on display</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Wikimedia Commons Public Domain</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Of all the tanks that have ever actually been built, the Panzer VIII Maus is easily the largest and heaviest. In fact, it is almost twice as heavy as the next contender and dwarfs almost every other tank that was ever constructed. Development on the project began in 1941, with Hitler determined to field a tank that was bigger and more powerful than any of those wielded by Allied forces. The end result of this was the Panzer VIII Maus, which was put into production in 1944.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Unfortunately for Hitler, he never got to see the Panzer VIII Maus in action. Only two models of the tank were ever completed and, of those, only one had a functioning gun turret fitted. The vehicle was involved in testing when Allied and Soviet troops were nearing Germany. In fact, Soviet forces captured the only two versions of the Panzer VIII Maus that had been built just three weeks before Germany surrendered.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Unlike most guns on tanks, this vehicle sported a 128mm KwK 44 gun L/55. This was effectively an anti-tank artillery armament that was incredibly heavy on its own and was able to destroy any opposing armored vehicle of the time. Throw in the thick armor -- which measured between six and nine inches -- and the massive engine needed to power the tank, and it quickly becomes clear why the Panzer VIII Maus was so heavy at 188 tons.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Read the <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.slashgear.com/1519253/largest-military-tanks-ever-built/?zsource=msnsyndicated" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">original article on SlashGear</a>.</p>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-56760825698197552092024-02-13T20:28:00.003-05:002024-02-13T20:28:42.828-05:00Chivalry and the Modern Age<p> </p><p><span style="font-size: medium;">I was researching another post and I ran across this post I posted back in 2014 and I decided it was worthy of reposting, especially with what I have seen of todays society.</span></p><div class="separator" style="background-color: white; clear: both; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhanUVuXRV4btLkV6mVE5xywAyZYG4VvHuPJAc_JXHGQ41Oi_3lIL9GscMjmEUHglwYV21o5IKxMvyyKbW3ew4SMvBeFapt2xpa2YmI0VZAHJEzzDf9in5YuXom6DLEJ2wnrcikTH5pDDI/s1600/chivelry.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="color: #32aaff; margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="300" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhanUVuXRV4btLkV6mVE5xywAyZYG4VvHuPJAc_JXHGQ41Oi_3lIL9GscMjmEUHglwYV21o5IKxMvyyKbW3ew4SMvBeFapt2xpa2YmI0VZAHJEzzDf9in5YuXom6DLEJ2wnrcikTH5pDDI/s1600/chivelry.jpg" style="border: none; position: relative;" width="400" /></a></div><p><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;"> </span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: white;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"> I have been told that I am a throwback to a bygone age ,my mannerism and vocabulary are archaic from what I was told. I am a firm believer in manners, I like to quote "Lazarus Long" a character that Robert Heinlein created. Basically Lazarus Long was an immortal and he would keep notes of his experiences and observations. </span></span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"> </span><span style="background-color: white; color: blue; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"> "Moving parts in rubbing contact require lubrication to avoid excessive wear. Honorifics and formal politeness provide lubrication where people rub together. Often the very young, the untraveled, the naive, the unsophisticated deplore these formalities as “empty,” “meaningless,” or “dishonest,” and scorn to use them. No matter how “pure” their motives, they thereby throw sand into machinery that does not work too well at best."</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: blue; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"><span style="color: black;"> I will use other quotes from Lazarus here and there to make a point, Robert Heinlein besides being a prolific writer was prescient also, but I digress. The point I was making and he was with that quote is basically manners are the social lubricant for interactions with other people. I have told my son more than once, to be nice to people and remember your manners, you get more accomplished with a kind word than being a jerk. </span></span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: blue; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"><span style="color: black;"> The Act of Chivalry as practiced long ago is no longer there, It used to be stressed as part of our culture, the culture of the West. But it is no longer practiced because people out there believe that all cultures are equal and if you display chivalrous manners, you are denigrating other cultures.....Are you kidding? The same people that denigrate Western Civilization, are the cultural marxist and their fellow travelers that use what is called "Constructive criticism" to challenge the beliefs of a culture. This is from the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School" style="color: #336699; text-decoration-line: none;">Frankfurt School</a> of Neo Marxist social theory. Once you have forced a society to question it's long held belief system, you can then replace it with one that is more conducive to the goals of the marxist. The Marxist believe in social and economic equality...the end results...Having one culture being superior to the other cultures kinda upsets the social applecart. The lack of manners that is being displayed today is a result of this. Remember back in the Victorian era, the manners were expected of all , even the "low class people" and if somebody gave you an affront, you were expected to deal with it yourself. Usually with a duel or fisticuffs I believe it was called. Even when I was in school, if somebody was bullying you , you either sucked it up or you beat the bully. Now they want you to go tell an authority figure instead...People are afraid to do anything unless they have the power of the state behind them. People are afraid to stand on their own two feet. That is what the social reconstruction has wrought.</span></span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: blue; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"><span style="color: black;"> This ties in with the decline of Western civilization. </span></span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: blue; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"><span style="color: black;"><span style="color: blue;"> "The two highest achievements of the human mind are the twin concepts of “loyalty” and “duty.” Whenever these twin concepts fall into disrepute--get out of there fast. You may possibly save yourself, but it is too late to save that society. It is doomed. "</span></span></span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: blue; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"><span style="color: black;"><span style="color: blue;"><span style="color: black;">Another quote from Lazarus, Remember that the idea of duty and loyalty are denigrated in today's society as being "outmoded" and old fashioned. " Duty is very hard to describe, Robert E. Lee had commented that " Duty is sublime and the harshest of mistresses". Duty is difficult to describe, but duty is basically your obligation that you place on yourself as what you owe to society by your standards. Duty is part of a person's personal code of honor and integrity. Words that you don't see much of anymore. People do " what feels good", not thinking that they are doing is contributing to the decline of Western Civilization. Loyalty is another word that is not used anymore except to yourself. People nowadays are taught by the decline of societal norms that it is OK to "let it all hang out" where in the past such behavior is frowned upon. If you did something that was frowned upon by society, you got the message pretty fast, this contributed to a code of conduct or behavior that was expected of all gentlemen. Now it is OK to be a thug</span></span>. Again this is by design, if a society cannot remember its past or the moral upbringing, than they will accept anything that the statist put out there.</span></span><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"></span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: blue; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">"All societies are based on rules to protect pregnant women and young children. All else is surplus age, excrescence, adornment, luxury or folly which can--and must--be dumped in emergency to preserve this prime function. As racial survival is the only universal morality, no other basic is possible. Attempts to formulate a “perfect society” on any foundation other than “women and children first!” is not only witless, it is automatically genocidal. Nevertheless, starry-eyed idealists (all of them male) have tried endlessly--and no doubt will keep on trying"</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: blue; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"> <span style="color: black;">Another quote from Lazarus, It does harken back to the Victorian age of "Women and Children First". Because in that time, they knew that it was the job of all men of virtue to ensure that the women and children survived, it was a way to guarantee their culture. It also taught a person to put the needs of the society above his needs. I always liked the phrase that the veteran at one time handed the government a blank check that would include payment including life if necessary. people that are willing to out the needs of the country above their own are a rare breed,</span></span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: blue; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"><span style="color: black;"> I remembered when I was in North Georgia College, the Military college along with VMI, the Citadel, and Norwich. There was a painting on the wall that discussed the rules of Gentlemen. </span></span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: blue; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"><span style="color: black;"> </span></span><span style="background-color: white; color: blue; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"><span style="color: black;"><span style="clear: left; float: left; margin-top: 0px; position: relative; z-index: 10;"><span class="wsite-caption" style="display: block; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-top: -10px; text-align: center;"></span></span></span></span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /></span></p><div class="paragraph" style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">1. Be gentle to the fairer sex, it's in the name.<br />2. Dress well no matter the occasion.<br />3. Pride is dangerous, be careful.<br />4. Be humble, be grateful<br />5. Opening the door or giving up a seat for a lady isn't up<br /></span><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhKiavQYGt6aASGFINCta-Mf5DVsZMvc73pirEyAYl4lAvle0tDyRe8E8xe7oyMTePv2msX19uG-Dexn1A5Q1zhIkmNjZOWVedL7OM_52gHaIB1NIcMIXdqM9-UlHoxD7qS6TPRyJi4xQ0/s1600/image.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; color: #336699; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-decoration-line: none;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><img border="0" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhKiavQYGt6aASGFINCta-Mf5DVsZMvc73pirEyAYl4lAvle0tDyRe8E8xe7oyMTePv2msX19uG-Dexn1A5Q1zhIkmNjZOWVedL7OM_52gHaIB1NIcMIXdqM9-UlHoxD7qS6TPRyJi4xQ0/s1600/image.jpg" style="border: none; position: relative;" width="216" /></span></a></div><span style="font-size: medium;">for discussion.<br />6. Work hard, that is if you want to own anything worth having<br />7. Starting / instigating a fight is for school boys, but men obtain the power to end one.<br />8. Ignorance isn't bliss, knowledge is power.<br />9. Suit up (make sure they're tailored to fit)<br />10. Confidence is a gentleman's trademark.<br />11. Comfort zones are for the weak, men aren't weak.<br />12. Foul language is for the less educated. </span></div><div class="paragraph" style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">13. Make Eye contact and mean business.</span></div><div class="paragraph" style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">14. Lower your standards for no one.</span></div><p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">15. Being romantic doesn't make you a woman.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">16. Stay groomed.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">17. Admit when you're wrong</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">18. Always make the first move, you're the MAN</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">19. Handwritten "Thank you" cards aren't outdated. Use them.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">20. Chivalry is not dead, there are just too many boys.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">21. It is said you can tell a lot about a man through his handshake, so make it strong and firm.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">22. Leave her breathless</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">23. Judge no one, just improve yourself.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">24. Speak your mind, don't hesitate.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">25. Offer your arm to a lady while walking, they'll feel secure.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">26. You're the man, you pay.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">27. Women love compliments, gentlemen provide them.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">28. Never wear your hat indoors, it's disrespectful.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">29. Make sure everyone has their plate before you start eating.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">30. We don't always have to be the center of attention, but we are always noticed. It is our signature as gentlemen to come, make a statement, leave, and be remembered.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">31. Never discuss the virtues of your women with other gentleman, it is crass and beneath you.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /></span></p><div class="separator" style="background-color: white; clear: both; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiHGh42NIHX3AFjnrc2tKWERF04RQ1JiiN0UibTO7_Woi3bdJx92O0GuVrk5doFFc8RNi9WVliVKSmh1kG1RFISKAW8COS0eQ7HOV7zmUZI3YJJ-K8RNDowSHDgSajCiyDz5WvNJAjiVTQ/s1600/knight.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="color: #336699; margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-decoration-line: none;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><img border="0" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiHGh42NIHX3AFjnrc2tKWERF04RQ1JiiN0UibTO7_Woi3bdJx92O0GuVrk5doFFc8RNi9WVliVKSmh1kG1RFISKAW8COS0eQ7HOV7zmUZI3YJJ-K8RNDowSHDgSajCiyDz5WvNJAjiVTQ/s1600/knight.jpg" style="border: none; position: relative;" width="416" /></span></a></div><p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: white; color: blue; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"><span style="color: black;"> A gentleman is a successor of the knights that were sworn to defend the weak against injustice , this was a noble endeavor, it showed what it took to be the best of us, what made us more than mammals interested in the here and now. A Knight was supposed to represent the best of their society by words and deeds.</span></span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: blue; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"><span style="color: black;"> I don't know what will it take to bring back the old norms, it will take generations to undue the damage done to Western civilization by the Marxist and their fellow travelers. I don't know if we as a society have the mental fortitude to make the proper call. I almost think of the 40 years in the desert like the Israelite did after leaving Egypt until all that remembered the bondage was no longer there and the ones that were there grew up in freedom and adversity.</span></span></span></p>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-6092758621821528082024-02-11T20:16:00.005-05:002024-02-12T04:02:31.082-05:00"What if the government Abolished your 401K? "<p> </p><p><br /></p><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: medium;">This is another rant coming on....I see another group of government affiliated Economist making noise about going after the "Hoi Pelloi" 401K's again...I have"<a href="https://mydailykona.blogspot.com/search?q=401K">ranted before"</a> about government being interested in our 401K's<br /> I will rant some more after this article....</span></div><h2 class="gnt_ar_b_h2" style="background-color: white; color: #303030; font-family: "Unify Sans", "Helvetica Neue", "Arial Nova", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size: 24px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: 26px; margin: 28px 0px 18px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><br /></h2><div><h1 class="gnt_ar_hl" elementtiming="ar-headline" style="background-color: white; color: #303030; font-family: "Unify Sans", "Helvetica Neue", "Arial Nova", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size: 36px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: 38px; margin: 4px 0px 0px;">What if the government abolished your 401(k)? Economists say accounts aren't worth it</h1></div><div><br /></div><div><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="background-color: white; color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">The federal government should stop allowing pre-tax contributions to retirement savings, abolishing the <a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2024/02/09/s-p-500-record-401-k-dow/72526338007/" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;">401(k)</a> and Individual Retirement Account, two economists from opposing ideological camps argued in a<a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://crr.bc.edu/the-case-for-using-subsidies-for-retirement-plans-to-fix-social-security-2/" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;"> research brief</a> in January.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="background-color: white; color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">Allowing people to shelter their retirement money from taxes is a policy that largely favors the well-heeled, they said. Congress could use that money, nearly $200 billion a year in lost tax dollars, to shore up the <a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/03/31/social-security-medicare-benefits-risk-looming-shortfalls/11577051002/" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;">underfunded Social Security program</a>.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="background-color: white; color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">Their suggestion created a stir. One<a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://twitter.com/biggsag/status/1747691111664243179" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;"> social media post</a> has drawn more than 700,000 views.</p><aside aria-label="X Embed" class="gnt_em gnt_em_tw" data-g-r="lazy" data-gl-method="loadTwitter" data-v-id="1747691111664243179" style="background-color: white; clear: both; contain: content; margin: 30px auto; min-height: 496px; width: 550px;"><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">"We do not think that this subsidy, which you can only rationalize if it increases saving ... we don't think it does increase saving very much," said<a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://crr.bc.edu/person/alicia-munnell/" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;"> Alicia Munnell</a>, an assistant treasury secretary under President Clinton. She co-wrote the brief with <a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://www.aei.org/profile/andrew-g-biggs/" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;">Andrew Biggs</a>, a senior fellow at the right-leaning American Enterprise Institute.</p><div><h2 class="gnt_ar_b_h2" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Unify Sans", "Helvetica Neue", "Arial Nova", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size: 24px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: 26px; margin: 28px 0px 18px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">Here's why economists are coming for your 401(k)</h2><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">Why, then, are economists coming after your 401(k)?</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">That employee retirement plan and its personal savings counterpart, the Individual Retirement Account, were created to help Americans save for retirement.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">But federal data suggests tax-favored retirement accounts help only some Americans, and wealthy Americans in particular.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">For households in the top 10% by income, the median retirement account <a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/scf/dataviz/scf/chart/#series:Retirement_Accounts;demographic:inccat;population:1,2,3,4,5,6;units:have" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;">held $559,000 in 2022</a>, according to the Survey of Consumer Finances. An overwhelming 93% of those households held retirement plans.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">For middle-income Americans, those in the 40th to 60th percentile by income, the median retirement plan held just $39,000, and nearly half of that group had no retirement savings.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">Many smaller employers don't offer 401(k) plans. Even when they do, workers might balk at participating, because they can't spare the income or they're afraid they might need to withdraw it later on, triggering tax penalties.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">"Income for a lot of workers is very unpredictable," said <a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://www.epi.org/people/monique-morrissey/" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;">Monique Morrissey</a>, senior economist at the left-leaning Economic Policy Institute.</p><h2 class="gnt_ar_b_h2" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Unify Sans", "Helvetica Neue", "Arial Nova", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size: 24px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: 26px; margin: 28px 0px 18px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">A looming crisis in retirement savings</h2><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">Many researchers believe America faces a crisis in retirement savings. Fewer than half of us have retirement accounts, Census data show. Even among those nearing retirement, ages 56 to 64, the share with retirement accounts <a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2022/08/who-has-retirement-accounts.html#:~:text=Demographics%20of%20Ownership&text=About%20half%20(49.5%25)%20of,23%20owned%20a%20retirement%20account." style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;">lagged below 60%</a> in 2020.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">Without a retirement account, most retirees depend on Social Security. But monthly Social Security checks averaged <a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://www.cbpp.org/research/policy-basics-top-ten-facts-about-social-security" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;">about $1,800</a> in 2023. The typical household run by someone 65 or older <a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://www.blackrock.com/us/individual/education/retirement/building-a-retirement-budget#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20U.S.%20Bureau,(approximately%20%244%2C345%20a%20month).&text=How%20are%20you%20going%20to%20pay%20for%20these%20expenses%3F" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;">spends $4,345 a month</a>, according to a BlackRock analysis of federal statistics.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">The<a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/100314/why-were-401k-plans-created.asp" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;"> 401(k)</a> and<a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/71111/1000535-Individual-Retirement-Accounts.PDF" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;"> IRA</a> emerged in the 1970s and gained popularity as tools for Americans to build savings for retirement. Over the years, the plans have gradually replaced traditional pensions, which deliver monthly benefits to retired workers. From 1975 to 2019, active private sector pension participants dwindled from 27 million <a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12007" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;">to fewer than 13 million</a>, according to a congressional report.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">As investments, tax-advantaged retirement plans are “a really good deal,” said<a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://harris.uchicago.edu/directory/damon-jones" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;"> Damon Jones</a>, a University of Chicago economist. The government doesn’t tax income contributed to a traditional 401(k) or IRA. You pay taxes when you withdraw the money in retirement.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">The tax breaks cost the federal government about $185 billion a year in lost revenue, according to Treasury Department estimates for 2020.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">Yet, millions of Americans don’t take advantage of tax-favored retirement savings − or can't. Nearly half of workers have<a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://press.aarp.org/2022-7-13-New-AARP-Research-Nearly-Half-Americans-Do-Not-Have-Access-to-Retirement-Plans-at-Work" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;"> no access to a retirement plan</a> at work, according to one AARP analysis.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">The<a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/100314/why-were-401k-plans-created.asp" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;"> 401(k)</a> and<a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/71111/1000535-Individual-Retirement-Accounts.PDF" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;"> IRA</a> emerged in the 1970s and gained popularity as tools for Americans to build savings for retirement. Over the years, the plans have gradually replaced traditional pensions, which deliver monthly benefits to retired workers. From 1975 to 2019, active private sector pension participants dwindled from 27 million <a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12007" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;">to fewer than 13 million</a>, according to a congressional report.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">As investments, tax-advantaged retirement plans are “a really good deal,” said<a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://harris.uchicago.edu/directory/damon-jones" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;"> Damon Jones</a>, a University of Chicago economist. The government doesn’t tax income contributed to a traditional 401(k) or IRA. You pay taxes when you withdraw the money in retirement.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">The tax breaks cost the federal government about $185 billion a year in lost revenue, according to Treasury Department estimates for 2020.</p><figure class="gnt_em gnt_em_img" style="clear: both; color: #303030; contain: content; display: flex; flex-flow: wrap; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 30px 0px; width: 660px;"><img alt="401(k): A retirement account offered by an employer that allows employees to save a portion of their salary which their employers can match." class="gnt_em_img_i" data-g-r="lazy" decoding="async" fetchpriority="high" src="https://www.usatoday.com/gcdn/presto/2021/08/02/USAT/f2b4588e-3068-4d2f-aca4-26bf49403e89-14.png?width=660&height=495&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp" style="background: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: white; height: 495px; object-fit: contain; width: 660px;" /><div class="gnt_em_img_ccw gnt_em_img_ccw__cap gnt_em_img_ccw__crd" data-c-caption="401(k): A retirement account offered by an employer that allows employees to save a portion of their salary which their employers can match." data-c-credit="USA TODAY" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Arial Nova", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size: 12px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: 15px; margin: 6px 0px 0px; width: 660px;"></div></figure><h2 class="gnt_ar_b_h2" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Unify Sans", "Helvetica Neue", "Arial Nova", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size: 24px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: 26px; margin: 28px 0px 18px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">Lower-income Americans miss out on retirement tax breaks</h2><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">And many lower-income Americans have more pressing priorities.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">“Most people, middle-class or lower, struggle to put food on the table and a roof over their head, and they don’t have the money left over to save,” said<a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/author/steven-m-rosenthal" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;"> Steve Rosenthal</a>, a senior fellow in the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">Wealthier Americans, on the other hand, tend to take full advantage of the tax perks. According to research by the <a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://www.brookings.edu/centers/urban-brookings-tax-policy-center/" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;">Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center</a>, three-fifths of the retirement savings tax benefits go to people in the top 20% of Americans by income. More than four-fifths go to people in the top 40%.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">“The fundamental problem with our retirement system is it rewards people who need no help,” Rosenthal said. “All the schemes are oriented toward rewarding those who have the savings or the income to reap the benefits.”</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">The whole point of the tax subsidies was to encourage more Americans to save for retirement, say the authors of the<a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://crr.bc.edu/the-case-for-using-subsidies-for-retirement-plans-to-fix-social-security-2/" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;"> research brief</a>, published by the Center for Retirement Research at Boston College.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">But that hasn’t happened. From 1989 to 2022, the share of workers ages 25 to 64 who participate in employer-sponsored retirement plans has risen 2 percentage points, from 51% to 53%, the researchers found.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><strong>“</strong>They’re basically saying we ought to call it quits on our retirement tax system because it’s broken. And it is broken,” Rosenthal said.</p><aside aria-label="advertisement" class="gnt_m gnt_x gnt_x__lbl gnt_x__al" style="clear: both; color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; height: 408px; margin: 14px auto 32px;"><div class="gnt_x_sl gnt_x_al" data-g-r="lazy" data-gl-method="llx" data-google-query-id="CNuQ2oXpo4QDFWW20QQdNYULaQ" data-integralas-id-9f1e40d8-62e2-7f8d-a0ed-cbf70346e372="" data-x-c="5" id="ad-slot-7103-usatoday-native-article_link-money-6" style="align-items: center; background-color: unset; contain: content; display: flex; flex-direction: column; height: 390px; justify-content: center; margin: auto; min-height: 250px; overflow: clip; position: relative; transform: translate3d(0px, 0px, 0px); width: initial; z-index: 1;"><h2 class="gnt_ar_b_h2" style="font-family: "Unify Sans", "Helvetica Neue", "Arial Nova", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size: 24px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: 26px; margin: 28px 0px 18px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">Many in the financial industry applaud tax-favored retirement plans</h2><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">Agreement on that point is far from unanimous, and some in the retirement industry greeted the new research with vitriol.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://www.usaretirement.org/content/brian-graff" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;">Brian Graff</a>, chief executive of the American Retirement Association, <a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7153778435494977536/" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;">flagged the paper on LinkedIn</a> with the comment, "No, it's not April 1st. . . and I personally cannot think of a more preposterous idea."</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">Much of the financial services industry applauds tax-favored retirement plans, saying they deliver a dignified retirement to millions of lower- and middle-income Americans.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">“It’s not only the rich,” said <a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://www.ebri.org/about/staff/craig-copeland" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;">Craig Copeland</a>, director of wealth benefits research at the Employee Benefit Research Institute, a nonprofit that works with benefit providers. “A lot of middle-class people have 401(k)s, and typically, that’s the bulk of their savings outside of their homes.”</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">“Most of these plans wouldn’t exist if there wasn’t a tax preference for them,” he said.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">Abolishing the tax subsidies “is not going to hurt the wealthy,” Copeland said, “because the wealthy are going to save. It’s going to hit those middle-quartile people” − the middle class.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">Even the economists who wrote the brief concede there’s little chance Congress will abolish tax-favored retirement savings anytime soon.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">“I know they’re not going to repeal it tomorrow,” Munnell said. “But it should be part of the debate.”</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">Instead of eliminating the tax benefits, the economists say, Congress could modify the subsidies so the programs reward responsible saving without lavishing tax breaks on the wealthy.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">For example, the tax subsidy could be capped for savers who amass $500,000 or $1,000,000 in retirement money. Or, the tax benefit could be limited to the first $10,000 or $20,000 in annual contributions.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><strong class="gnt_ar_b_al" style="margin-right: 3px;">'The economy is different now':</strong><a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|spike click:51|${u}" href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2024/02/04/adult-children-financial-help-from-parents/72419763007/" rel="noopener" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;" target="_blank">Parents pay grown-up kids' bills with retirement savings</a></p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">Alternatively, Congress could lower the age by which savers must begin drawing down their retirement accounts. Instead of lowering that age, Congress has been raising it, from 70½ in 2019 <a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://www.orba.com/what-is-your-required-minimum-distribution-age/" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;">to 75 in 2033</a>.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">“If you’re troubled by how large these retirement plans are, you can limit what goes in,” Rosenthal said, “or you can limit what comes out.”</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><em>Daniel de Visé covers personal finance for USA Today.</em></p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><br /></p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><br /></p><aside aria-label="advertisement" class="gnt_m gnt_x gnt_x__lbl gnt_x__al" style="clear: both; height: 408px; margin: 14px auto 32px;"><div class="gnt_x_sl gnt_x_al" data-g-r="lazy" data-gl-method="llx" data-google-query-id="CKqNnK7qo4QDFSa90QQdVMUAAA" data-integralas-id-d4fc358c-aa59-e38a-1f65-903ec61f4946="" data-x-c="7" id="ad-slot-7103-usatoday-native-article_link-money-8" style="align-items: center; background-color: unset; contain: content; display: flex; flex-direction: column; height: 390px; justify-content: center; margin: auto; min-height: 250px; overflow: clip; position: relative; transform: translate3d(0px, 0px, 0px); width: initial; z-index: 1;"></div></aside><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><br /></p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><br /></p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><br /></p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><br /></p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><br /></p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><br /></p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">Strip away the tax benefits, Copeland says, and employers would lose their incentive to offer retirement savings in the first place. Companies use 401(k) plans to attract workers, and employers reap their own tax savings by administering the plans.</p></div></aside><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"> I saw this article on the "Bing" page when I opened my browser, and I read it and I got pissed, it reminded me of the same people that say that we regular people need to move to "<a href="https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/21252030%20Agenda%20for%20Sustainable%20Development%20web.pdf?ref%E2%80%89=%E2%80%89truth11.com">Move to 15 minute cities and eat crickets to save the planet</a>" crap that our "betters" want to foist on us, somehow we will be affected but the "cloud people" will not, they have strip us of our wealth and the 401K is a huge part of our wealth. Individually we don't have as much as the "cloud people" but together we have a lot of money, and a lot of us have clout, we vote, we are involved, and a lot of us are armed, we are the check in the overbearing ideas of the people that believe that in their schooling, family, and wealth, they should rule like the feudal lords of old and if we "dirt people" would get with the program, things would get soo much better, their college professors said so. Well I don't cotton to those beliefs, poor people are beholding to the government for survival and they will do what "the man" says to keep the government cheese coming, we in the middle class can tell "The man" to stick it.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"> The government leaning economist have been eyeing the 401K system for quite a few years, they don't like the idea of all that money out there that the government can't get their hand on, imagine what the government could do with all the money from the 401K system? All the social programs it could finance to "help the poor in the name of fairness" or "shore up Social Security" in the name of "fairness and equity", basically to me that is giving freeloaders my hard-earned assets that they didn't earned due to some marxist belief. People have told me that they could never do a 401K because they never had the money, and yet I saw all the poor money decisions, </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjh_B0R-ZZxa8owCgdicxGceBOvZRsSKD2n2aGDyrEcvWYyNoSCj1tZAOT3NxNe_DkZ3O4EvjrJGfcuB2vjJzLi7QWibfaZVuHRK_UyJ27ayFj3JDcDQogjDa2rEbsgq2-bAvk24TTwhPzijJiwKMusHo0ED2M9M69lra94QpxUk5cFlxlSLzJ3oI7H2USy/s400/starter%20pack.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="400" data-original-width="301" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjh_B0R-ZZxa8owCgdicxGceBOvZRsSKD2n2aGDyrEcvWYyNoSCj1tZAOT3NxNe_DkZ3O4EvjrJGfcuB2vjJzLi7QWibfaZVuHRK_UyJ27ayFj3JDcDQogjDa2rEbsgq2-bAvk24TTwhPzijJiwKMusHo0ED2M9M69lra94QpxUk5cFlxlSLzJ3oI7H2USy/w482-h640/starter%20pack.jpg" width="482" /></a></div><br /><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"> The same people that say that they never have money to put away for retirement, seem to have money to get hammered every weekend, get new tattoos, the latest technology, trade in a car every year or 2 or lease one and rent an apartment or house and not buy one and so forth, am I making assumptions...you betcha but there is truth in what I say. I started my 401K back when I started at Ford Motor Company, yes they gave me a 401K option and a pension, and I started as soon as I was eligible and started maxing it out as much as I could, and when I lost my job at Ford due to "<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Way_Forward">The Way Forward</a>", and I rolled my 401K away from Ford and I was then hired by my present employer and they also have a 401K, so I have 2 of them, one is managed by the financial company that my employer works with the other is a local wealth management firm. </p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"> The point I am trying to make is that you have to prioritize what you want to do, and do it. What I like about the 401K is that if I croak, my wife or my kid get all of it, try that crap with social security......Yeah right....your spouse gets $255 in death benefits from the SSA and that is it, any other money that you earned in your lifetime....Ha, they keep it to give to illegals and to people that never paid in the the system, and these government related economists want to make a case to take your 401K and dump it into SS? all because soo many people didn't and it ain't "fair". You know the same people that want you to Live in "15 minute cities, and eat cricket burgers....yeah them people....but the cloud people...they will be exempt from that little requirement. It is just new feudalism all over again where we can't travel far, but they can. </p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"></p><div style="text-align: left;"><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="color: #333333;"><span style="font-size: medium;">We are pretty good about living under our means. That is why I have a 25 year old F-150, Hey it works well and the occasional repair is much better than a note. The spousal unit drives 4 year old Edge, she does the same at her place of employment, we don't carry a balance on our credit cards..we have only 2. I do new hire tours at my place of employment and I explain the magic of compounded interest in their financial future. I use a phrase a good friend of mine used when I first met him 14 years ago.</span></span></div><br style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;" /><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg2asneN-nwiCkKCuzSBan8n_OBHiqPaoBopNJxxHwZHLyRcETYid0qNRTTZpvsT_Ch1uaJdXRDqcomAwsdxv5CWT_pFt1IBxuep0RHbpZ6R-XlkZBnwFXdGfk6kWwOIJuaPziSKyjEqUos/s1600/FB_IMG_1564541345211.jpg" style="color: #32aaff; margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="460" data-original-width="816" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg2asneN-nwiCkKCuzSBan8n_OBHiqPaoBopNJxxHwZHLyRcETYid0qNRTTZpvsT_Ch1uaJdXRDqcomAwsdxv5CWT_pFt1IBxuep0RHbpZ6R-XlkZBnwFXdGfk6kWwOIJuaPziSKyjEqUos/s640/FB_IMG_1564541345211.jpg" style="border: none; position: relative;" width="640" /></a></div><div style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: medium;"> My Friend goofing off, this was about 14 years ago</span></div><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;" /></span></p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="color: #333333;">"Nobody takes better care of a old you than a young you, take advantage of the 401K match and every time you get a raise, you bump up your your percentage. so when you retire, you ain't shopping for cat food to supplement your social security" I get some strange looks but they remember that and that is the intent. If you have financial freedom, you have a lot of options."</span></span></p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="color: #333333;"> I keep equating us to the modern day "<a href="https://mydailykona.blogspot.com/search?q=kulaks">Kulaks</a>", the modern statist want the government to break us like their hero Stalin did to the Kulaks of old. If they can take our money and wealth, they can control us. You notice the 68,000 IRS agents that pedo joe talked about getting all those tax cheats? you notice that all those cash transferring services have a $601 cap now before you have to declare it to the IRS? The cloud people will have tax lawyers to protect them....we won't have anybody, they will come after us instead, easier than dealing with the lawyers of the "cloud people".</span></span></p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="color: #333333;">I recall that NY Governor Hotchel has asked people to shelter Illegals in their homes, how much longer before it is no longer a an "ask" but a "demand", remember to a democrat, especially a big state democrat, all the assets you own belong to them, you just don't know it yet, but you will. and thanks to the crappy civics lessons we have had in the school system, they don't realize that one of the amendments kinda play into this...</span></span></p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="color: #333333;">the 3rd amendment, granted it was soldiers back then, but the principle was the same</span></span></p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><span face="Poppins, sans-serif" style="background-color: #ebeff1; color: #163340; text-align: justify;">No soldier shall, in time of peace, be </span><abbr style="background-color: #ebeff1; box-sizing: border-box; color: #163340; font-family: Poppins, sans-serif; text-align: justify;" title="Provided with housing or shelter.">quartered</abbr><span face="Poppins, sans-serif" style="background-color: #ebeff1; color: #163340; text-align: justify;"> in any house without the </span><abbr style="background-color: #ebeff1; box-sizing: border-box; color: #163340; font-family: Poppins, sans-serif; text-align: justify;" title="Approval or agreement.">consent</abbr><span face="Poppins, sans-serif" style="background-color: #ebeff1; color: #163340; text-align: justify;"> of the owner, nor in time of war </span><abbr style="background-color: #ebeff1; box-sizing: border-box; color: #163340; font-family: Poppins, sans-serif; text-align: justify;" title="Except; unless.">but</abbr><span face="Poppins, sans-serif" style="background-color: #ebeff1; color: #163340; text-align: justify;"> in a </span><abbr style="background-color: #ebeff1; box-sizing: border-box; color: #163340; font-family: Poppins, sans-serif; text-align: justify;" title="">manner</abbr><span face="Poppins, sans-serif" style="background-color: #ebeff1; color: #163340; text-align: justify;"> to be </span><abbr style="background-color: #ebeff1; box-sizing: border-box; color: #163340; font-family: Poppins, sans-serif; text-align: justify;" title="Ordered, directed, or laid down as a rule.">prescribed</abbr><span face="Poppins, sans-serif" style="background-color: #ebeff1; color: #163340; text-align: justify;"> by law.</span></span></p><div style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><span style="font-size: medium;">A smart lawyer can use this to stretch this to cover "illegals" also, the principle is the same, the government is demanding that you house people in your home and you have no say in this.</span></div><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="color: #333333;"><span style="font-size: medium;"> I ain't bashing the rich, I just don't want to be ruled by them. We have to keep paying attention to what those clowns in D.C are up to. If the Donks get a super majority, I am afraid they will try to push through legislation and couch it in the language of "Fairness" or "equity" and tap into the "class envy" that they play on and really are successful at. </span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="color: #333333;"> </span></span><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="color: #333333; font-size: large;"> </span></p></div></aside></div><aside aria-label="advertisement" class="gnt_m gnt_x gnt_x__lbl gnt_x__al" style="background-color: white; clear: both; color: #303030; font-family: "Georgia Pro", Georgia, "Droid Serif", serif; font-size: 18px; height: 408px; margin: 14px auto 32px;"><div class="gnt_x_sl gnt_x_al" data-g-r="lazy" data-gl-method="llx" data-google-query-id="CPTWm5jjo4QDFSK40QQdNcwHKA" data-integralas-id-a4ed8047-f764-45a5-e5e0-e8dca971565f="" data-integralas-id-d499487f-aebe-258f-da75-309ada29d0f9="" data-x-c="3" id="ad-slot-7103-usatoday-native-article_link-money-4" style="align-items: center; background-color: unset; contain: content; display: flex; flex-direction: column; height: 390px; justify-content: center; margin: auto; min-height: 250px; overflow: clip; position: relative; transform: translate3d(0px, 0px, 0px); width: initial; z-index: 1;"><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">Instead of eliminating the tax benefits, the economists say, Congress could modify the subsidies so the programs reward responsible saving without lavishing tax breaks on the wealthy.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">For example, the tax subsidy could be capped for savers who amass $500,000 or $1,000,000 in retirement money. Or, the tax benefit could be limited to the first $10,000 or $20,000 in annual contributions.</p><aside aria-label="advertisement" class="gnt_m gnt_x gnt_x__lbl gnt_x__al" style="clear: both; height: 408px; margin: 14px auto 32px;"><div class="gnt_x_sl gnt_x_al" data-g-r="lazy" data-gl-method="llx" data-google-query-id="CMu5u4Plo4QDFVKK0QQdXFANAg" data-integralas-id-a3037759-c79f-3a81-be56-562ae127861b="" data-integralas-id-c154378f-8ff1-eaa5-4d2a-278ed0c6bd8c="" data-x-c="6" id="ad-slot-7103-usatoday-native-article_link-money-7" style="align-items: center; background-color: unset; contain: content; display: flex; flex-direction: column; height: 390px; justify-content: center; margin: auto; min-height: 250px; overflow: clip; position: relative; transform: translate3d(0px, 0px, 0px); width: initial; z-index: 1;"></div></aside><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><br /></p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><br /></p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><br /></p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><br /></p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><br /></p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><br /></p><aside aria-label="advertisement" class="gnt_m gnt_x gnt_x__lbl gnt_x__al" style="clear: both; height: 408px; margin: 14px auto 32px;"><div class="gnt_x_sl gnt_x_al" data-g-r="lazy" data-gl-method="llx" data-google-query-id="CO-E3t_jo4QDFXoyTwgd4ZMPcg" data-integralas-id-96917eb6-ed17-90fa-2c4a-4121dc73206b="" data-integralas-id-a3181dd6-8649-4d5d-9d3f-309cae27341e="" data-integralas-id-ca292b95-6780-5ea2-43cb-f2851a62dda1="" data-x-c="4" id="ad-slot-7103-usatoday-native-article_link-money-5" style="align-items: center; background-color: unset; contain: content; display: flex; flex-direction: column; height: 390px; justify-content: center; margin: auto; min-height: 250px; overflow: clip; position: relative; transform: translate3d(0px, 0px, 0px); width: initial; z-index: 1;"></div></aside><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">“Most people, middle-class or lower, struggle to put food on the table and a roof over their head, and they don’t have the money left over to save,” said<a class="gnt_ar_b_a" data-t-l=":b|e|k|${u}" href="https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/author/steven-m-rosenthal" style="color: #303030; text-decoration-color: rgb(0, 152, 254); text-decoration-thickness: 2px; text-underline-offset: 2px;"> Steve Rosenthal</a>, a senior fellow in the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center.</p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><br /></p><p class="gnt_ar_b_p" style="margin: 14px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><br /></p></div></aside>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-84564364837754408622024-02-09T20:08:00.005-05:002024-02-10T02:40:26.746-05:00Relics from the Long forgotten past....<p> Thank you to every one for their comments of condolences of us loosing "goofy", they were much appreciated.</p><p><br /></p><p>Well we were in Puerto Rico and I saw something in the bakery where I was getting really good coffee..</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhTWUP1V8WHe6PawEBRU-y3HVNIoiPaiBSZYxwIT00pcGFy_atO3zgymr5jar1_KzLShYXI1DryeR268uYm-B9EcjqzMPq4QYKJvtEO7syn-yxEhupMmbv8HlJhi8yMGcPi7d9donptgD33kW1CVq6JxiTUpASYFZKGvX-BsykjD8n1k_MIzS0SHMiyUuwO/s4032/20240120_102822.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="4032" data-original-width="2268" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhTWUP1V8WHe6PawEBRU-y3HVNIoiPaiBSZYxwIT00pcGFy_atO3zgymr5jar1_KzLShYXI1DryeR268uYm-B9EcjqzMPq4QYKJvtEO7syn-yxEhupMmbv8HlJhi8yMGcPi7d9donptgD33kW1CVq6JxiTUpASYFZKGvX-BsykjD8n1k_MIzS0SHMiyUuwO/w360-h640/20240120_102822.jpg" width="360" /></a></div> Yeah I was trying to wake up so I asked for a "Coffee Grande" and that is what I got, Man my heartbeat sped up just sniffing it, LOL It was GOOD but anyway I saw this on the wall..<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhWnM5NXtm0znFKnuLxRX90uxgiNpWbuTyEoRqqBe4c1oeDqbsIIN6qxn0nquzoO5JrtC1S2fL3VeQjDJ6XgsvVIODDbVXgROoDMndyZsITj5dZFLTyo7Ph4QxZ455i46ooZGNnObJ7wTnoFAYfHmy1Ze_29seTg8QLmJ08_aEe6p69QgCIv3NtquXZZGdj/s4032/20240121_085307.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="4032" data-original-width="2268" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhWnM5NXtm0znFKnuLxRX90uxgiNpWbuTyEoRqqBe4c1oeDqbsIIN6qxn0nquzoO5JrtC1S2fL3VeQjDJ6XgsvVIODDbVXgROoDMndyZsITj5dZFLTyo7Ph4QxZ455i46ooZGNnObJ7wTnoFAYfHmy1Ze_29seTg8QLmJ08_aEe6p69QgCIv3NtquXZZGdj/w360-h640/20240121_085307.jpg" width="360" /></a></div><br /><div> Well anyway I saw those relics from a long forgotten past....lol</div><div> Then I saw this on St Thomas USVI(U.S. Virgin Islands)</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhWgTo6A8kQ4mFINGJEZJnqNEO4CEhqrqKzPIHxohtU3C1CXwccuxkVs-GSGLqctj1xzZuRPOv9zegByriEoeiKM7aX5ackPnYr1WQG2Cj3RNVeeB7LWHJQBreASMz1Z-Y3bQxFGy2p6QcorcIkpjNiCjtmGfpjCAbU4Fpax1yo_P0RvVU0K0MM1WN7-tTd/s4032/20240127_122315.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhWgTo6A8kQ4mFINGJEZJnqNEO4CEhqrqKzPIHxohtU3C1CXwccuxkVs-GSGLqctj1xzZuRPOv9zegByriEoeiKM7aX5ackPnYr1WQG2Cj3RNVeeB7LWHJQBreASMz1Z-Y3bQxFGy2p6QcorcIkpjNiCjtmGfpjCAbU4Fpax1yo_P0RvVU0K0MM1WN7-tTd/w640-h360/20240127_122315.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div> I had a lot of "<a href="https://mydailykona.blogspot.com/search?q=mask">Post with my many opinions on masking...all bad, I hated the damm things</a>" and I mocked the "<a href="https://mydailykona.blogspot.com/search?q=covidkarens">CovidKarens</a>" incessently. What prompted this post was that I found this.</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhNNjqlfU580pyBYgE96H70_aBBe_1ssDTm51OVcERK9kE8VTw5PZxr7SrhYw5Ht888Zz_TC9wwAr9Z51fy70OTzk8rcOi-I7Mq2t2Ll_emszdBrNVlIG3IbOEgrVCdz2r8xtZDoM5RXUGLl7u04lJF6KnVEMZMfdf7Vo00Ttor0anfOKF4PE_VQ5U6h7RY/s4032/20230416_192946.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhNNjqlfU580pyBYgE96H70_aBBe_1ssDTm51OVcERK9kE8VTw5PZxr7SrhYw5Ht888Zz_TC9wwAr9Z51fy70OTzk8rcOi-I7Mq2t2Ll_emszdBrNVlIG3IbOEgrVCdz2r8xtZDoM5RXUGLl7u04lJF6KnVEMZMfdf7Vo00Ttor0anfOKF4PE_VQ5U6h7RY/w640-h360/20230416_192946.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div> while cleaning out my F150 A..K.A ' The Precious" or my stand, or my work platform or whatever I use her for.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhQvT07Ek8LILnKGhmo5Vkojldim1T0ukPEpRKdV9xFDdhiykbK2Divie03WhGr163a9tBgdguWKZv9AQJUjrt975HlU_k5b-QloR_jzcyO5B_7m7YeEeIsHHI4AmjHyCYe2Ej_U1J6sFP2saIIj5BOiCrqpBp7EWsWeDnDTD1dupaooT_RFD74DN2NgwYF/s4032/20240209_183154.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="4032" data-original-width="2268" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhQvT07Ek8LILnKGhmo5Vkojldim1T0ukPEpRKdV9xFDdhiykbK2Divie03WhGr163a9tBgdguWKZv9AQJUjrt975HlU_k5b-QloR_jzcyO5B_7m7YeEeIsHHI4AmjHyCYe2Ej_U1J6sFP2saIIj5BOiCrqpBp7EWsWeDnDTD1dupaooT_RFD74DN2NgwYF/w360-h640/20240209_183154.jpg" width="360" /></a></div><br /><div> YES, My "Essential Worker Letter", I had in the truck back in the scary old days of yore when the CDC was trying to scare the crap out of people in preparation to screwing President Trump over to supporting their Political Masters the Democrats. when they finally rolled out the "mail in ballots" and flooded in the voting in stations with fake ballots supporting that dottering old meat puppet that presently resides in the white house. I wonder what they will roll out in 2024 because there is another election and I keep hearing of "another variant" and Phiszer" and the other big pharma companies are rolling out the booster shots ads big time trying to drum up the fear and demand for their product....again. I didn't take the initial and I sure will not take anything this time. It will be interesting to see how it plays out the next coming months..<br /><p><br /></p></div>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-41521991169913647232024-02-07T20:00:00.002-05:002024-02-08T03:53:54.470-05:00Goings on at Casa De Garabaldi.<p> </p><p><br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgAG2znMeeZp77grx9ddlJUn3YGFAkxY30yzE1VGB2ocOib0edcMimbWBk703sRDSO3vozXi4o7AjYVcCX_1eKB-HWtAVAo9inqaEP2uDYI7DvlzGepQ8v1ZBg6wwONog_HHIPBp4dve26d6ALbU-Z2uDAaevmsHKbhcRJ6Ts9vAaQ2YAMm1Jl6CcJUOgnX/s4032/20231015_191346.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="4032" data-original-width="2268" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgAG2znMeeZp77grx9ddlJUn3YGFAkxY30yzE1VGB2ocOib0edcMimbWBk703sRDSO3vozXi4o7AjYVcCX_1eKB-HWtAVAo9inqaEP2uDYI7DvlzGepQ8v1ZBg6wwONog_HHIPBp4dve26d6ALbU-Z2uDAaevmsHKbhcRJ6Ts9vAaQ2YAMm1Jl6CcJUOgnX/w360-h640/20231015_191346.jpg" width="360" /></a></div><p><br /></p><p>Apologies for not posting for almost a week. We had some things going on here, besides the ever present Overtime, this is the background. Remember My wife and I went on the cruise and we had my son stay behind and basically babysit the house and "Goofy" A.K.A "D.O.G" pronounced DeeYooGee. Now DeeYooGee is 14 years old and until recently has been in good health and is the quintessence counter surfer, until recently where he started to have "incontinence" issues so my son took him to the Vet and they scheduled an ultrasound after our return, They did do an Xray and it showed something but it was inconclusive. so when we returned we had the ultrasound scheduled for this past Wednesday week. The Wife dropped him off and I picked him up, when we got off work. we already had the diagnosis, and it was bad.</p><p> "Goofy" had 4 huge tumors on his spleen, they had metastasized to his lungs and abdomen. I was given the option of "putting him to sleep right then" by the vet, she also told me that we could do the oncologist route, and he may or may not survive the operation to remove the cancers, and then the treatments would be painful for him and give us only 6 months due to the type of cancers they are and the age of the dog. I decided to take him home and let us love on him for a few days then return on Saturday and prepare to have him cross the rainbow bridge. and that is what we did.</p><p><br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg3Uymf3PaJfFPnViztr7JK0RGZk_V1X0zhDsmFIPt_odCHDYAiaoS70NJAFOiHOamsnutgxrluD7mbJn1v4GafKUgQGQQyWaKljt9v6EeV7ehpHGqNUNCtUAowTMKjsPxVlYJPJThilZS0A-s0mPiVfGq1atNAVywdCTVaFuWVdGbYHJ5vHBbtgllDv8X5/s4032/20240202_182656.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="4032" data-original-width="2268" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg3Uymf3PaJfFPnViztr7JK0RGZk_V1X0zhDsmFIPt_odCHDYAiaoS70NJAFOiHOamsnutgxrluD7mbJn1v4GafKUgQGQQyWaKljt9v6EeV7ehpHGqNUNCtUAowTMKjsPxVlYJPJThilZS0A-s0mPiVfGq1atNAVywdCTVaFuWVdGbYHJ5vHBbtgllDv8X5/w360-h640/20240202_182656.jpg" width="360" /></a></div> Sleeping off the the Food Coma, from the eggs.<p> I brought him home and we proceeded to spoil that dog on Wednesday, Thursday morning, my son made him 5 eggs and a whole ring of kielbasa for him for breakfast. Well of course the dog liked that idea, LOL. I got home from work, spoiled him. Friday I got off work early, and went home and grabbed him and took him to give him a bath.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgbTXd3L_jbjC3t0XyzV80I7fiUtBNYatrkaoBHjZbcSxsp-tyzvLVQV5wMWB0nqHcs3LN9GWzA-Cr_Xeh1-kyDEnWtJtwJWsMThKzyLsLHk8dvGdA4uMyvCN6yiwlxVXkfuDARCLbGnLS1XtLhyJjr8XiDsmTdfmIffJrpbSZ0Soxb1_j_JOKQ0UVFP7s2/s4032/20240202_145545.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgbTXd3L_jbjC3t0XyzV80I7fiUtBNYatrkaoBHjZbcSxsp-tyzvLVQV5wMWB0nqHcs3LN9GWzA-Cr_Xeh1-kyDEnWtJtwJWsMThKzyLsLHk8dvGdA4uMyvCN6yiwlxVXkfuDARCLbGnLS1XtLhyJjr8XiDsmTdfmIffJrpbSZ0Soxb1_j_JOKQ0UVFP7s2/w640-h360/20240202_145545.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p> He had that long suffering Lab look, but the amount of hair....I felt bad for whomever had to clean the drains at the pet stores. </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjBMSeXjUlkHWtR0fOB9MHrgvUas3bPiBY43Oj0yejbxpMUK6oXsdZQqZDKW3llmAgfz0SSd_MZJh_znoTWLmPovOp0rgovcHNPY8LEJFZoJevNpzGJpQzmBd2WRhXamD-EXYTpMpjHOkJAQx9UeNKGib8bJcrMfcFvoasGUaXvdRiUgG0oYY3y_zoDWnU_/s4032/20240202_150646.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjBMSeXjUlkHWtR0fOB9MHrgvUas3bPiBY43Oj0yejbxpMUK6oXsdZQqZDKW3llmAgfz0SSd_MZJh_znoTWLmPovOp0rgovcHNPY8LEJFZoJevNpzGJpQzmBd2WRhXamD-EXYTpMpjHOkJAQx9UeNKGib8bJcrMfcFvoasGUaXvdRiUgG0oYY3y_zoDWnU_/w640-h360/20240202_150646.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p> Goofy trying to leave with the towel while I was trying to dry him off...it always is a game with him.</p><p> We went back home where my son fed him a steak.. Like I said, we went out to spoil him</p><p> Saturday morning arrived, our appointment is at 11:30, so I and my son took :D.O.G to the park for a walk, I went by Chicfila, got us breakfest and goofy got some chicken nuggets. We went to the park, and D.O.G wasn't doing good, but he was game so we slowly walked the route.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEid6pGCYtvVzxFrFWk0SBkeauvxN5opWUG9nK1xkWhPJuxEQhmaJNXoaPGpLODpSXFdlsJjk0jUu6l6HQ67Ta6aFE_krIlRLbFVc-vNmlj3miJglW2ROjWKJRbUs6VLid3FHetymM3-WVkqMt5efzdQb1nlSNrSLHlAViGhx0sqmPwjbAdJeyc9SQwTB0Ha/s4032/20240203_100448.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEid6pGCYtvVzxFrFWk0SBkeauvxN5opWUG9nK1xkWhPJuxEQhmaJNXoaPGpLODpSXFdlsJjk0jUu6l6HQ67Ta6aFE_krIlRLbFVc-vNmlj3miJglW2ROjWKJRbUs6VLid3FHetymM3-WVkqMt5efzdQb1nlSNrSLHlAViGhx0sqmPwjbAdJeyc9SQwTB0Ha/w640-h360/20240203_100448.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgx3l9YUcFpek1sY0p2x8e4w1xywEfd7J62Jb-dLpnZu4vnukkzgT0Y6NzfdH4xla1h999BiokkCJARQXrlEdicTgdUtOhgJqrrx86pwxhHgs0fybC3qyUSE0YFzl-2ms2Xi4i0ygsEpyrj31DqSre4XDkKE75b2jlARZiN3YfjU09fwxrtizBg_hb9Yr0z/s4032/20240203_101249.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgx3l9YUcFpek1sY0p2x8e4w1xywEfd7J62Jb-dLpnZu4vnukkzgT0Y6NzfdH4xla1h999BiokkCJARQXrlEdicTgdUtOhgJqrrx86pwxhHgs0fybC3qyUSE0YFzl-2ms2Xi4i0ygsEpyrj31DqSre4XDkKE75b2jlARZiN3YfjU09fwxrtizBg_hb9Yr0z/w640-h360/20240203_101249.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjVMgItTNBmrzMP696lFLBSlf3tem4Paybajf_JbIvbq8plJs9vipEDIApVK5LKKJGWVBgk0tw7AdXKImeBCObzRFtsAktjwIw3GY1YOd8xgip9NX7g1Shfv9YyDmhZOTq0mKddxPFn-Vj8T62V_tMmde1yhE4kWIk7j4UqQcJCqrr9aDVL2qquP5gnJgH8/s4032/20240203_100346.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjVMgItTNBmrzMP696lFLBSlf3tem4Paybajf_JbIvbq8plJs9vipEDIApVK5LKKJGWVBgk0tw7AdXKImeBCObzRFtsAktjwIw3GY1YOd8xgip9NX7g1Shfv9YyDmhZOTq0mKddxPFn-Vj8T62V_tMmde1yhE4kWIk7j4UqQcJCqrr9aDVL2qquP5gnJgH8/w640-h360/20240203_100346.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiD8JysTfTKPKhiyM_KjEnv10RbB7M2BSdSS7Bmo0VkUB5cWYeducKdCqF-2Y5KqkU4bxkiePtubpMO04x9aj6qExCGoh7lzl4hbJ5hWFFpmfsEN5MvTfYLT6NF9bsRNplb55_vitEEJQ8mEsRig5IPZbibnvf_hlEOVAR6rMgSARgPq8u0oI1tyBOzrY23/s4032/20240203_100834.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="4032" data-original-width="2268" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiD8JysTfTKPKhiyM_KjEnv10RbB7M2BSdSS7Bmo0VkUB5cWYeducKdCqF-2Y5KqkU4bxkiePtubpMO04x9aj6qExCGoh7lzl4hbJ5hWFFpmfsEN5MvTfYLT6NF9bsRNplb55_vitEEJQ8mEsRig5IPZbibnvf_hlEOVAR6rMgSARgPq8u0oI1tyBOzrY23/w360-h640/20240203_100834.jpg" width="360" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div>D.O.G Finally ate his nuggets and we felt better as we were walking. Finally we got to the end of the route and D.O.G was wore out. We got home around 11:12 and waited for the spousal unit. She came downstairs and I took a quick picture of "goofy", as he was asleep by the back door.<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiEc1oJpkdc8AMh4iss4oQRb6mPrrLrpbqjFv5KY5slAdroDvhcRKkrhKoQxP_uKI-tAQ2B9LBOOFbyyFTiIROlnMdbwCE_eFW1jRShCjkVOkWi1kmJIquLp_TuDPR0EY0O0IrfvOBmRVQcOJOIOD82fxSLZJ4jd4cLBMgDdFJwBApD_akvmJiBHjtmfCQc/s4032/20240203_110946.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="4032" data-original-width="2268" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiEc1oJpkdc8AMh4iss4oQRb6mPrrLrpbqjFv5KY5slAdroDvhcRKkrhKoQxP_uKI-tAQ2B9LBOOFbyyFTiIROlnMdbwCE_eFW1jRShCjkVOkWi1kmJIquLp_TuDPR0EY0O0IrfvOBmRVQcOJOIOD82fxSLZJ4jd4cLBMgDdFJwBApD_akvmJiBHjtmfCQc/w360-h640/20240203_110946.jpg" width="360" /></a></div><br /><div> My Last Pic of "Goofy" A.K.A D.O.G pronounced "DeeYooGee"</div><div><br /></div><div> We went to the vet and they were very supportive and the Vet again told us in this case, we were making the right decision. Man it was hard, I stayed with goody until the end petting him and telling him that he is a good dog. God it was hard. The Vet asked us to wait outside for 15 minutes as they prepared the remains and transferred him to a biodegradable box, and they put it in the Wife's Edge. We then drove goofy home for the last time. We buried him in the back yard where he liked to roam as is proper.</div><div><br /></div><div> It has been strange, the house is soo quiet, no collar jingling, or goofy begging for snacks..or getting into mischief.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhIeTrGLZJfjrAPXppeBHHA-CPplKtutxlaS5XgzoaHzLDqsd4dz00PZXQwzVNRd7QoTYNud6orV6Ftdrz_pDfpGNp0pXNOel0EUucocUTKFRZLeB7VCrG1kNmzXVw0IFpIPAzMbIJjzj-KFpdYLyOuf2s5oXe0AYTOg-0hYvzS12rRp4vfJyxxD2hisuEz/s4032/20231123_105146.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="4032" data-original-width="2268" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhIeTrGLZJfjrAPXppeBHHA-CPplKtutxlaS5XgzoaHzLDqsd4dz00PZXQwzVNRd7QoTYNud6orV6Ftdrz_pDfpGNp0pXNOel0EUucocUTKFRZLeB7VCrG1kNmzXVw0IFpIPAzMbIJjzj-KFpdYLyOuf2s5oXe0AYTOg-0hYvzS12rRp4vfJyxxD2hisuEz/w360-h640/20231123_105146.jpg" width="360" /></a></div><br /><div> I'm gonna miss him, I do believe that when we cross over and go to heaven, we will see our pets because heaven is perfect, and perfection will have to have our furry friends there to keep us company. I know it sounds corny, but it is what I believe.</div><div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><br /><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><br /><p><br /></p><p> "</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><br /><p><br /></p></div>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com7tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-41824226372625661952024-02-02T04:30:00.001-05:002024-02-02T04:30:00.139-05:00"How Do People Believe that 2nd Amendment protect the 1st........"<p> Yeah, I shamelessly clipped this off Quora, it was a good response, it has been discussed amongst us bloggers for several years, especially when we hear from the lefties " you can't fight the Apache Helicopter and the atom bomb" or some such nonsense...Our response is, "we don't fight them, we fight the logistics, and you do know that pilot that fired that hellfire into that house.....betcha he has a family....you think that family will be safe?, you lefties use violence like a volume knob to suit your political purposes, to us it is "on-off" switch, we flick that switch, it will make the genocide in Rwanda look like a kindergarten spat, so be careful what you wish for.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjnrYdmnq1le7yxfK-2rgd6x15Ro_ZOHYLUZF8wkpZLK0baMBFBBwTEwixG9OyZ_YUiXAWOohOMQlI3Kjd_2M3t1Wnpmp8OFrCCW1jMiX8ndcDORD6yZfBsbvDjk9oltkf_SD_MO-6am9hOR9ih8un2IhWmfJQ5xAuF-7GiBInUV2Y74N7zS9S3iLalreyX/s640/Flipping%20Switch.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="426" data-original-width="640" height="426" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjnrYdmnq1le7yxfK-2rgd6x15Ro_ZOHYLUZF8wkpZLK0baMBFBBwTEwixG9OyZ_YUiXAWOohOMQlI3Kjd_2M3t1Wnpmp8OFrCCW1jMiX8ndcDORD6yZfBsbvDjk9oltkf_SD_MO-6am9hOR9ih8un2IhWmfJQ5xAuF-7GiBInUV2Y74N7zS9S3iLalreyX/w640-h426/Flipping%20Switch.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p>To read the article where I pulled the meme from is "<a href="https://mydailykona.blogspot.com/2019/12/day-after-impeachment.html">Here</a>", yes I wrote it back in 2019 after President's first impeachment.</p><p><br /></p><div class="q-box qu-mb--medium qu-mt--small" style="background-color: white; 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background-color: transparent; border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; display: block; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_top"><div class="q-click-wrapper qu-display--block qu-tapHighlight--white qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline ClickWrapper___StyledClickWrapperBox-zoqi4f-0 iyYUZT" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); box-sizing: border-box; color: inherit; cursor: pointer; font: inherit; outline: none; padding: 0px; text-align: inherit;" tabindex="0"><div class="q-flex qu-flexDirection--row" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-direction: row;"><div class="q-inline qu-flexWrap--wrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; flex-wrap: wrap; max-width: 100%;"><div class="QuestionTitle___StyledText-exj38m-0 chNUqN puppeteer_test_question_title" style="box-sizing: content-box !important;"><span class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text;"><span style="background: none;">How do people that believe the Second Amendment protects the 1st, and ignore the fact that no amount of firepower they possess would protect them from the US military if their country became dictatorial?</span></span></div></div></div></div></a></span></span></div></div></div></div><div class="q-box qu-mb--small" style="background-color: white; 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background-color: transparent; border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-alignItems--center qu-wordBreak--break-word" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; word-break: break-word;">Troy Becker</div></a></div></div></div></div></div></span></span></div><div class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--small qu-color--gray qu-passColorToLinks" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #636466; font-size: calc(13px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important;"><span class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 AbstractSeparatedItems___StyledCssComponent-sc-46kfvf-0 kBzlwk">Author has <span class="q-text qu-bold" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: bold;">2.9K</span> answers and <span class="q-text qu-bold" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: bold;">1M</span> answer views</span><span class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 AbstractSeparatedItems___StyledCssComponent-sc-46kfvf-0 ytbFj"><span class="q-text qu-whiteSpace--nowrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-wrap: nowrap;"><span class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-right: auto; pointer-events: auto;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ answer_timestamp qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/How-do-people-that-believe-the-Second-Amendment-protects-the-1st-and-ignore-the-fact-that-no-amount-of-firepower-they-possess-would-protect-them-from-the-US-military-if-their-country-became-dictatorial/answer/Troy-Becker-17" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); background-color: transparent; border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_top">Updated Nov 25</a></span></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="q-text" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; max-width: 100%;"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 UserSelectableText___StyledCssInlineComponent-lsmoq4-0"><span class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text;"><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">Are ya sure?</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">Ever seen this guy?</span></p><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-left: -16px; margin-right: -16px;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; filter: blur(0px); margin-bottom: 1em; position: relative; transition-duration: 1s; transition-property: undefined; transition-timing-function: ease-out;"><img class="q-image qu-cursor--default qu-display--block" height="370" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-f3afbfd7c84ae66d4e6a913cebbded4a" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: default; display: block; height: auto; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; max-width: 100%;" width="356" /></div></div><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">Viet Cong. They were the guerilla forces on the side of these guys:</span></p><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-left: -16px; margin-right: -16px;"><div class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 QTextImage___StyledCssComponent-sc-1yi3aau-0 cfUEeh"><div class="q-box unzoomed" style="box-sizing: border-box; cursor: -webkit-zoom-in; filter: blur(0px); margin-bottom: 1em;" tabindex="-1"><img class="q-image qu-display--block" height="334.0474777448071" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-426f1da8d2a241ef85bf8492f6eb8e78" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; display: block; height: auto; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; max-width: 100%;" width="602" /></div></div></div><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">The USA and those guys fought a war. The USA was better equipped, funded, trained… better </span><span style="background: none; font-style: italic;">everything.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">I assume you know who won.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">In more recent history, ever see this guy?</span></p><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-left: -16px; margin-right: -16px;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; filter: blur(0px); margin-bottom: 1em; position: relative; transition-duration: 1s; transition-property: undefined; transition-timing-function: ease-out;"><img class="q-image qu-cursor--default qu-display--block" height="500" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-fdc86baa6b59f88743234320a9eba301" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: default; display: block; height: auto; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; max-width: 100%;" width="359" /></div></div><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">He was a Taliban fighter, on the side of…</span></p><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-left: -16px; margin-right: -16px;"><div class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 QTextImage___StyledCssComponent-sc-1yi3aau-0 cfUEeh"><div class="q-box unzoomed" style="box-sizing: border-box; cursor: -webkit-zoom-in; filter: blur(0px); margin-bottom: 1em;" tabindex="-1"><img class="q-image qu-display--block" height="360.4875739644971" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-a9a33f0b8b484c0005fc963b919aedce" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; display: block; height: auto; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; max-width: 100%;" width="602" /></div></div></div><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">… well, uh, more Taliban. They were fighting the US for 20+ years. And the USA outmatched those guys WAY more than they outmatched anyone in Vietnam.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">Remind me, who runs Afghanistan today?</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">But what about in America? What would resistance look like in America? I know, I know, the meme is the “muh-lish-uh” is entirely this guy…</span></p><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-left: -16px; margin-right: -16px;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; filter: blur(0px); margin-bottom: 1em; position: relative; transition-duration: 1s; transition-property: undefined; transition-timing-function: ease-out;"><img class="q-image qu-cursor--default qu-display--block" height="288" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-ce36b0bc049d5ca22df5c83b32b9243d" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: default; display: block; height: auto; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; max-width: 100%;" width="391" /></div></div><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">And yeah, I too roll my eyes when someone like that talks about tyranny and resisting it. I, too, wouldn’t even trust him with logistics supplies. If they involved food, anyway.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">But.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">What about this guy?</span></p><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-left: -16px; margin-right: -16px;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; filter: blur(0px); margin-bottom: 1em; position: relative; transition-duration: 1s; transition-property: undefined; transition-timing-function: ease-out;"><img class="q-image qu-cursor--default qu-display--block" height="372" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-4bdb57e8a02fad4e4dbaa0a69dbc803b" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: default; display: block; height: auto; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; max-width: 100%;" width="442" /></div></div><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">I pulled that picture from an Amazon movie about American hunters. Do you think he knows his way around the back country and similar to Viet Cong or Taliban? Think he’s a good shot? Think he might know a thing or two about tactics, or could at least learn relatively quickly? Something tells me he does, is, and could.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">But that’s not all.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">What about this guy?</span></p><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-left: -16px; margin-right: -16px;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; filter: blur(0px); margin-bottom: 1em; position: relative; transition-duration: 1s; transition-property: undefined; transition-timing-function: ease-out;"><img class="q-image qu-cursor--default qu-display--block" height="535" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-7c8c874fbd8436890a2118b712f0b96f" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: default; display: block; height: auto; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; max-width: 100%;" width="526" /></div></div><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">His name is John Lovell. You may want to mock him for all his tactical gear, because who does he think he is, what a poser… Well, he’s a retired Army Ranger.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">And make no mistake, I’m not speaking for him. But IF tyranny really hit the US and IF he were to get involved- again, not speaking for him, but IF- I know whose side he’d take. I can guarantee, if he got involved, whose side he’d take.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">It wouldn’t be tyranny.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">But that’s </span><span style="background: none; font-style: italic;">still </span><span style="background: none;">not all!</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">American soldiers- the ones who do the fighting, not the political brass or the desk jockeys- tend to overwhelmingly swing one direction, politically. And I can tell you this: push come to shove, a </span><span style="background: none; font-style: italic;">lot </span><span style="background: none;">of them aren’t going to tyrannize their fellow citizens. They may at first, a little, because circumstance and nuance and confusion and so on.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">But give it some time. See what happens.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">Mark Milley, here?</span></p><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-left: -16px; margin-right: -16px;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; filter: blur(0px); margin-bottom: 1em; position: relative; transition-duration: 1s; transition-property: undefined; transition-timing-function: ease-out;"><img class="q-image qu-cursor--default qu-display--block" height="596" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8420bdee7e8a18e7a3e067a356d74272" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: default; display: block; height: auto; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; max-width: 100%;" width="520" /></div></div><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">You’re right. That coward will bend the knee to tyranny in no time. And yes, I do call him a coward, because he already bent that knee. For nothing more than career advancement during peacetime. Any military guy who publicly states he’s “concerned with white rage” because it’s the woke talking point of the day and the current administration, well, they’ll turn on the people for sure. I’ll grant you that.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">But this guy’s nothing without these guys here:</span></p><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-left: -16px; margin-right: -16px;"><div class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 QTextImage___StyledCssComponent-sc-1yi3aau-0 cfUEeh"><div class="q-box unzoomed" style="box-sizing: border-box; cursor: -webkit-zoom-in; filter: blur(0px); margin-bottom: 1em;" tabindex="-1"><img class="q-image qu-display--block" height="355.10130718954247" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-4fdbb265fb61bf1801bc3fb836ef416a" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; display: block; height: auto; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; max-width: 100%;" width="602" /></div></div></div><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">They do the actual fighting. Maybe some will also bend the knee. But many are going to feel the way Mr. Lovell up there feels. I promise you that.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">And this guy…</span></p><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-left: -16px; margin-right: -16px;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; filter: blur(0px); margin-bottom: 1em; position: relative; transition-duration: 1s; transition-property: undefined; transition-timing-function: ease-out;"><img class="q-image qu-cursor--default qu-display--block" height="486" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-e704bb34bdf62726cc46a23a7a7d9f88" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: default; display: block; height: auto; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; max-width: 100%;" width="339" /></div></div><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">… he’s going to be more than happy to work with them. He wanted to be left alone, but someone brought tyranny to his land.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">And in the off chance those army guys up there didn’t bring their rifles when they deserted their newly-turned-completely-tyrannical leaders? Good news! He’s already stocked up on extra rifles and tons of ammo.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">Go ahead, parrot the stupid line about “we have nukes and F-15s!” (that was Biden who said that, YouTube it) and think that matters. We can even pretend that the F-15 pilots will all happily drop bombs on their fellow Americans without hesitation, too. Let’s grant that just for sake of argument.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">Okay. F-4 Phantoms didn’t stop the NVA and Viet Cong. Twenty years of Black Hawk helicopters dropping Rangers and Seals to conduct raids and the C-130s dropping countless bombs and US army occupying every major city and the Predator drones assassinating countless jihadis and on and on and on… we had F-22s by that point along with F-15s, F-16s, A-10s, the F-35s were rolling out… well, all that didn’t stop people who literally often couldn’t even do jumping jacks or count. I’m not joking.</span></p><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-left: -16px; margin-right: -16px;"><div class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 QTextImage___StyledCssComponent-sc-1yi3aau-0 cfUEeh"><div class="q-box unzoomed" style="box-sizing: border-box; cursor: -webkit-zoom-in; filter: blur(0px); margin-bottom: 1em;" tabindex="-1"><img class="q-image qu-display--block" height="486.3777777777778" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-210a6d5e2e26b7e30273c7fbcc228bf9" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; display: block; height: auto; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; max-width: 100%;" width="602" /></div></div></div><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">Behold, the ultimate tool of tyranny!</span></p><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-left: -16px; margin-right: -16px;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; filter: blur(0px); margin-bottom: 1em; position: relative; transition-duration: 1s; transition-property: undefined; transition-timing-function: ease-out;"><img class="q-image qu-cursor--default qu-display--block" height="286" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c220dc533d9ecab0785231be6e74b47e" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: default; display: block; height: auto; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; max-width: 100%;" width="500" /></div></div><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">And, apparently this.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">Truth is, an F-15 doesn’t occupy a street corner.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">This guy does.</span></p><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-left: -16px; margin-right: -16px;"><div class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 QTextImage___StyledCssComponent-sc-1yi3aau-0 cfUEeh"><div class="q-box unzoomed" style="box-sizing: border-box; cursor: -webkit-zoom-in; filter: blur(0px); margin-bottom: 1em;" tabindex="-1"><img class="q-image qu-display--block" height="368.7491961414791" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d6d95e2af977f9c6426c7eab5974e4ce" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; display: block; height: auto; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; max-width: 100%;" width="602" /></div></div></div><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none; font-style: italic;">These </span><span style="background: none;">guys are who you call to do that…</span></p><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-left: -16px; margin-right: -16px;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; filter: blur(0px); margin-bottom: 1em; position: relative; transition-duration: 1s; transition-property: undefined; transition-timing-function: ease-out;"><img class="q-image qu-cursor--default qu-display--block" height="508" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-44598b14ebc1f4140d51f24202f3372b" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: default; display: block; height: auto; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; max-width: 100%;" width="585" /></div></div><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">… but even these guys just might end up siding with, well, this guy…</span></p><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-left: -16px; margin-right: -16px;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; filter: blur(0px); margin-bottom: 1em; position: relative; transition-duration: 1s; transition-property: undefined; transition-timing-function: ease-out;"><img class="q-image qu-cursor--default qu-display--block" height="319" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-56ce9551256d6eb26bc1149cdb3fccb5" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: default; display: block; height: auto; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; max-width: 100%;" width="169" /></div></div><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">… if it came down to it. Because, frankly between, say, Milley and fatty up there? Bottom line, fatty isn’t trying to bring tyranny to anyone.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">But worry not, all you minutemen, the soldiers will have that guy stay home. Maybe instead the soldiers turning against tyranny will coordinate some guerilla style raids with his best buddy growing up down below, and toss in some training while they’re at it.</span></p><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-left: -16px; margin-right: -16px;"><div class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 QTextImage___StyledCssComponent-sc-1yi3aau-0 cfUEeh"><div class="q-box unzoomed" style="box-sizing: border-box; cursor: -webkit-zoom-in; filter: blur(0px); margin-bottom: 1em;" tabindex="-1"><img class="q-image qu-display--block" height="482.3973509933775" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-410c6e331152792c54e68d9ce870ebaa" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; display: block; height: auto; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; max-width: 100%;" width="602" /></div></div></div><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">And believe me, the odds are that guy with the tripod can already shoot way better than most soldiers, let alone those who stay, let </span><span style="background: none; font-style: italic;">alone </span><span style="background: none;">enlist or respond to a draft </span><span style="background: none; font-style: italic;">after </span><span style="background: none;">tyranny arrives.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">So, god forbid we have to find out, but considering the success of the Taliban, the Viet Cong, the obvious reluctance of most American boots-on-the-ground to tyrannize their own… who would you put your money on?</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">I know my bet.</span></p></span></span></div>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com9tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-87650168641980413272024-01-31T05:00:00.015-05:002024-01-31T18:30:56.031-05:00"The Car that saved Ford Motor Company in the 1980's from going bankrupt"<p> I have a list of articles that populate my window when I open my "Edge" browser and I scan it to see if there is something interesting and sometimes there is and this article from "TopSpeed" caught my eye because it mentioned the "Ford Taurus", anybody that has been following me for a long time know that I used to work for Ford Motor Company, Atlanta Assembly, we built the Taurus, Sable and the Wagon and the only plant that built the SHO. I had blogged about the "Taurus" extensively also many post about "<a href="https://mydailykona.blogspot.com/search?q=Ford">Ford</a>" some will cross over and some will not, if you have time, surf through those, there is some good nuggets in there and some well unrelated stuff. I still have a really soft spot for the Ford Taurus, I called her "America's Car", and she was my favorite car. and she went from America's darling to the staple of the rental fleet, Ford was focused on the SUV's and Trucks and let their cars slide, in my mind, it was a short-sighted business decision. so, the Taurus went from cutting edge sedan to the rental fleet darling, it was a fall from grace in the automotive world that was unprecedented. The car could have done so much more than she did, but the short sighted bean counters torpedoed the cars at the behest of "<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Nasser">Jack The Knife</a>" who was building a marque of premium brands and didn't want Ford cars competing with the "<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_Automotive_Group">Premium Auto Group</a>" that is why in my opinion is why he killed the SHO, why get the SHO that can beats the pants off any premium sedan that cost $20,000 more and was just as well equipped. and they put the Taurus and Sable on the backburner and the car languished. I had seen the preproduction photo's and preproduction cars, we got...what we actually to build was nothing like the preproduction models, they were much cheaper in "looks", made me feel bad for the new models. and the car languished and eventually got cut at the end of the production run after the Gen IV update.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/BB1hpdBt" data-image-href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/the-model-that-saved-the-ford-motor-company-from-bankruptcy-in-the-1980s/ar-BB1hpdBE?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=c3d7693fce7546c6b5efd4da7fcfa9c4&ei=20&fullscreen=true#image=1" data-is-first="true" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="BB1hpdBE-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1hpdBt"><cp-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container" data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="BB1hpdBt" style="height: 438px; 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flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">The Model That Saved The Ford Motor Company From Bankruptcy In The 1980s</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Provided by TopSpeed</span></div></div></cp-article-image></div></div><div class="emaki-custom key-points" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><div class="custom_block-content"><div class="article-list-slot"><ul style="padding-inline-start: 20px;"><li data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 28px; margin: 10px 0px;">Ford Taurus revolutionized American car design in the 1980s, saving the company from major financial losses and launching it into the future.</li><li data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 28px; margin: 10px 0px;">The Taurus sold record numbers and became a hit among consumers due to its sleek and futuristic design, efficient engine, and snappy handling.</li></ul></div></div></div><div class="emaki-custom key-points" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><div class="custom_block-content"><div class="article-list-slot"><ul style="padding-inline-start: 20px;"><li data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 28px; margin: 10px 0px;">Despite its initial success, the Taurus eventually fell out of popularity due to poor design choices and increasing competition, but it will always be remembered as a game changer in the automotive world.</li></ul><slot name="default"></slot></div></div></div><p class="continue-read-break" data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px; opacity: 1; position: static;"><a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.topspeed.com/best-overall-ev-of-2024-ford-f-150-lightning/?utm_source=syndication" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">Ford</a> had really<strong> found themselves in a pickle during the 1980s</strong>, as bad publicity and lackluster vehicle design hindered their popularity, especially when compared to the <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.topspeed.com/cars/guides/the-10-most-important-classic-japanese-cars/?utm_source=syndication" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">popular JDM imports of the era</a>. The boxy, straight-edged American design was outdated and unappealing to look at, not to mention that American vehicles were increasingly inefficient at the time. This all resulted in major income losses over the first half of the decade.<slot name="cont-read-break"></slot></p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Desperately needing a home run, the production design departments all came together to create a new model from the ground up. Incorporating modern aerodynamic design and a cohesive structure,<strong> the <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.topspeed.com/tag/ford-taurus/?utm_source=syndication" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">Ford Taurus</a> emerged as the car of the future.</strong> Some folks at Ford even worried it was <em>too</em> futuristic for consumers, and thankfully, they were wrong.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The Taurus sold record numbers in the first three years and literally launched Ford out of debt. Iconic models, including the SHO, came from the success attained by the original 1986 Ford Taurus, and the Blue Oval rode that high for as long as they could. Poor design and increasing foreign competition saw the Taurus eventually sink into obscurity, but for a brief period, the Taurus ruled the automotive world.</p><div class="display-card article article-card small no-badge" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><div class="w-display-card-content">Related<h5 class="display-card-title">The 10 Most Iconic Ford Cars In Company History</h5>The Blue Oval has been a staple of the automotive industry for over a century and here are 10 of the most iconic models that carried that badge</div></div><div class="emaki-custom note" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><div class="custom_block-content"><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="margin: 0px 0px 16px;">In order to give you the most up-to-date and accurate information possible, the data used to compile this article was sourced from various manufacturer websites and other authoritative sources; Ford, Ford Media Center, J.D. Power, and Car And Driver.</p></div></div><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Ford's Rough Patch</h2><div class="article-video-slot" data-content-embed-type="partner" data-doc-id="BB1hpb4q" style="--video-border-radius: 6px; background-color: white; box-sizing: content-box; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin-bottom: 32px; min-height: 432px; position: relative; width: 682px;"><slot name="BB1hpdBE-video-BB1hpb4q"><div class="article-video-slot" slot="BB1hpdBE-video-BB1hpb4q"><video-card config-instance-src="consumption" data-t="{"n":"VideoCardWC","t":8}" id="BB1hpb4q" instance-id="videoCardWC-BB1hpdBE-0" shouldrenderloadingstate="" style="display: block; height: 383.625px;" videotitleprefix="Related video"><div class="video-wrapper" style="height: 383.625px; position: relative; width: 682px;"><div class="videocard3PP" data-t="{"n":"VideoCardWC","t":61,"c.i":"BB1hpb4q","c.l":false,"c.t":61,"c.v":"music","c.c":"musicnews","c.b":"TopSpeed","c.bi":"AA11EmnM","ext":{"videoId":"BB1hpb4q","videoCs":"AA11EmnM","eventType":61,"timeElasped":0,"title":"'80 Ford LTD Commercial (Ed McMahon, 1979)","videoDuration":35,"fr":"en-us_finance","playType":"pb","playerTech":"3PP_YouTube","size":"682x384","isContinuous":false,"isMuted":true,"playDuration":0,"inline":true,"videoPlayerType":"BingMM","videoUrl":"https://www.topspeed.com/the-model-that-saved-the-ford-motor-company-from-bankruptcy/","perf":{}},"m.c":false,"c.hl":"'80 Ford LTD Commercial (Ed McMahon, 1979)"}" style="aspect-ratio: 16 / 9; height: 383.625px; position: relative; width: 682px;"><slot name="js-embed"></slot><iframe allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" class="video-embed-common video-embed-common-ux-impr" frameborder="0" height="100%" id="widget2" scrolling="no" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/G_R2q0Y19SA?autoplay=0&mute=1&enablejsapi=1" style="border-radius: 6px; float: right; overflow: hidden;" title="'80 Ford LTD Commercial (Ed McMahon, 1979)" width="100%"></iframe></div></div></video-card></div></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">At the start of the 1980s, Ford was experiencing a steady decline in sales and was falling further behind the Japanese import competition. By that time, <strong>models like the <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.motortrend.com/vehicle-genres/honda-accord-history-generations-specifications/?utm_source=syndication" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">Honda Accord became a best-seller in North America.</a></strong> This is due in part to the sleek and sporty design, but also the efficiency and road manners of the smaller, more agile imports.</p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; float: inline-start; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1hpdBE-intraArticleModule-2"></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The American way of designing automobiles was dated, as were the powertrains and components. This was a time when high interest rates held back bigger models, so Ford was looking to replace the big, boxy LTD with a more economical and customer-friendly model. The only option at this point was a Hail Mary, and it couldn't have come at a more crucial time.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Henry Ford II was on his way to retirement, as were the old ways of designing Ford's models. New management brought about a new team dynamic that decreased the inner-department competition and increased design cohesiveness. This resulted in a more reliable and well-built vehicle, i.e. the Taurus.</p><h3 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Covering A $1,000,000,000 Tab</h3><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;"><strong>The Taurus debuted at the Los Angeles Auto Show in 1985, </strong>introducing Ford's new mid-size sedan. The 1986 Ford Taurus sported futuristic design elements, including a tapered front end, sporty character lines, and a peppy attitude. The Taurus was also more efficient than the previous sedans Ford had produced, making it an instant hit among consumers.</p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; float: inline-start; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1hpdBE-intraArticleModule-3"></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">At the time of its release, <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/business/1982/02/19/ford-loses-106-billion-in-1981/320ee371-ba9b-42dd-9f84-b68b434d313b/?utm_source=syndication" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">Ford Motor Co. was over a billion dollars in debt and sinking.</a> The Taurus was Ford's attempt to win back the domestic market by dissecting the trends of the era, as well as pushing the brand into the future, and it paid off in a major way. The Taurus sold 1,000,000 units in the first three years and over 2,000,000 in the first generation alone, effectively putting Ford back on the map and opening an entirely new avenue for domestic automakers.</p><h3 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Taurus' Instant Success</h3><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;"><strong>It didn't take long for dealerships across the U.S. to sell out of their Taurus offerings,</strong> as everyone wanted in on the sleek, futuristic Ford. The mid-sized sedan boasted excellent handling and power, which was delivered to the front wheels, and the fuel economy was comparable to its import counterparts.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">This was the first time an American automaker had taken a chance on a vehicle that broke the mold of classic American styling and attitude, but it definitely wouldn't be the last, as brands eventually started following suit and developing economic models that focused on practical, everyday life, while retaining a modern sense of style.</p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; float: inline-start; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1hpdBE-intraArticleModule-4"></slot></div><h3 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">1986 Ford Taurus Key Design Features</h3><div class="article-list-slot" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><ul style="padding-inline-start: 20px;"><li data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 28px; margin: 10px 0px;">"Bottom Feeder" style front end</li><li data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 28px; margin: 10px 0px;">Lighter construction</li><li data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 28px; margin: 10px 0px;">Modern design language</li><li data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 28px; margin: 10px 0px;">Less chrome and sharp edges</li></ul><slot name="default"></slot></div><div class="display-card article article-card small no-badge" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><div class="w-display-card-content">Related<h5 class="display-card-title">10 Greatest Ford Sedans Ever Made</h5>Ford brought us sedans, took them away, and now we only have the past to savor what once was. Here are some of the best sedans from the Blue Oval</div></div><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">What Made The Taurus A Hit?</h2><div class="valnet-gallery" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><div class="gallery-lightbox">Close</div></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The <strong>Taurus was something completely new to North American design, </strong>so naturally, it garnered a lot of attention from domestic markets and the media. Its appeal only went up when customers realized that the futuristic qualities exuded by the appearance also applied to the mechanical makeup of the Taurus.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The efficient engine and snappy handling made it a must-have among the average consumers and, with a starting MSRP of $9,645, the Taurus was an undeniably strong mid-size competitor. It was even offered in wagon form for those in need of more cargo space.</p><h3 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Power And Handling Meets Fuel Efficiency</h3><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The 1986 Ford Taurus was offered with a humble 2.5-liter HSC four-cylinder that only put out 90 horsepower. Though not incredible, the power was fairly on par with economy sedans of the era, it also boasted better fuel economy than the current domestic sedan models.</p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; float: inline-start; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1hpdBE-intraArticleModule-5"></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">An optional upgrade added a Vulcan V-6, which put out 140 horsepower, but the next significant power bump would come in the 1988 model year, where the Taurus was offered with a 3.8-liter fuel-injected Essex V-6 that produced 200 horsepower. This would be <strong><em>the</em> catalyst for <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.topspeed.com/amazing-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-sleeper-ford-taurus-sho/?utm_source=syndication" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">one of the most revered Taurus models of all time, the SHO.</a></strong></p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Handling-wise, the Taurus was nimble and snappy. This was thanks to independent suspension and MacPherson struts, which allowed the mid-size sedan to tip-toe through tight slaloms and confidently tackle sharp turns. The front-wheel drive Taurus was offered with a three-speed automatic transmission, which proved to be enough gears for the daily driver.</p><h3 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">The Ford Taurus SHO</h3><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Undoubtedly, the most revered model to wear the Taurus name is the <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.topspeed.com/amazing-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-sleeper-ford-taurus-sho/?utm_source=syndication" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">1988 Ford Taurus SHO</a>, which stands for Super High Output. <strong>Ford dropped a Yamaha 3.0-liter V-6 DOHC</strong> with a sweet variable length intake manifold. The souped-up Taurus delivered 220 horsepower to a five-speed manual transmission developed by Mazda.</p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; float: inline-start; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1hpdBE-intraArticleModule-6"></slot></div><h3 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">1989 Ford Taurus SHO Performance Specs</h3><div class="table-container" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><table style="border-spacing: 0px; overflow: auto;"><tbody><tr style="background: var(--neutral-fill-rest);"><td style="padding: 0px 10px;"><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Engine</p></td><td style="padding: 0px 10px;"><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="margin: 0px 0px 16px;">3.0-liter V-6</p></td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0px 10px;"><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Horsepower</p></td><td style="padding: 0px 10px;"><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="margin: 0px 0px 16px;">220</p></td></tr><tr style="background: var(--neutral-fill-rest);"><td style="padding: 0px 10px;"><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Torque</p></td><td style="padding: 0px 10px;"><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="margin: 0px 0px 16px;">200 pound-feet</p></td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0px 10px;"><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Transmission</p></td><td style="padding: 0px 10px;"><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Five-speed manual,</p></td></tr><tr style="background: var(--neutral-fill-rest);"><td style="padding: 0px 10px;"><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Driveline</p></td><td style="padding: 0px 10px;"><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="margin: 0px 0px 16px;">FWD</p></td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0px 10px;"><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Curb Weight</p></td><td style="padding: 0px 10px;"><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="margin: 0px 0px 16px;">3,348 pounds</p></td></tr><tr style="background: var(--neutral-fill-rest);"><td style="padding: 0px 10px;"><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="margin: 0px 0px 16px;">0-60 MPH</p></td><td style="padding: 0px 10px;"><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="margin: 0px 0px 16px;">6.7 seconds</p></td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0px 10px;"><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Top Speed</p></td><td style="padding: 0px 10px;"><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="margin: 0px 0px 16px;">143 MPH</p></td></tr></tbody></table></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;"><em>(Source: <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a15142141/1989-ford-taurus-sho-road-test-review/?utm_source=syndication" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">Car And Driver road test</a>)</em></p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.topspeed.com/10-times-yamaha-helped-an-automaker-with-engine-development-and-tuning/?utm_source=syndication" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">Yamaha 3.0-liter engine was originally developed for a mid-engine two-seater</a> set to compete with the Pontiac Fiero and Toyota MR2, but when the concept failed to see production, the powertrain went to the Taurus.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The SHO was supposed to be a limited production car, but Ford milked its popularity, producing over 100,000 examples in its 10-year lifespan. It eventually lost popularity as it failed to impress in the 1990s models. However, later down the line in 2013, the SHO experienced a rebirth, featuring a saucy 365-horsepower twin-turbo EcoBoost V-6 and an updated appearance.</p><div class="display-card article article-card small no-badge" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><div class="w-display-card-content">Related<h5 class="display-card-title">Best Ford Cars of All Time</h5>From the Model T of 1908 to the Focus RS of 2016</div></div><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Why The Ford Taurus Is A Disliked Car Today</h2><div class="valnet-gallery" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><div class="gallery-lightbox">Close</div></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Though the trusty <strong>Taurus lifted Ford Motor Co. up from the abyss of debt,</strong> its popularity was not meant to last in the long run. The second generation, though totally redesigned, simply didn't improve the overall appearance or ability. This is where Taurus' star began to dwindle. But even with fading popularity, the Taurus still became the best-selling vehicle in North America in 1992, prying it from the hands of the Honda Accord.</p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; float: inline-start; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1hpdBE-intraArticleModule-7"></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;"><a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.hotcars.com/how-third-generation-ford-taurus-spelled-downfall-of-america-best-selling-car/?utm_source=syndication" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">Third-gen design changes</a> brought on the bubblier, sluggish Taurus of the late 1990s, which really didn't sell well among consumers, as it was, well... ugly. This inevitably made the <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.topspeed.com/ford-taurus-sho-sedan-yamaha-v-8/?utm_source=syndication" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">third-gen Taurus</a> the quintessential fleet car, only seeing action as company loaners or rental service options.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The fourth generation deviated from the jelly bean appearance, but it simply <em>wasn't</em> enough to put the Taurus back on top, as its reputation as a futuristic, sleek sedan had long gone. Ford briefly retired the Taurus nameplate in 2007 when work began on a mid-size, full-size, and crossover model to fill out Ford's offerings. This path was short-walked, coming to an end when sales of the Ford Fusion, Five Hundred, and Freestyle failed to meet expectations.</p><h3 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Return Of The Mack (Taurus)</h3><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Ford's lackluster lineup ended and was repackaged as the fifth-gen Taurus and Taurus X, yet there wasn't anything special that came with the name change, except maybe bad memories, as it's hard to forget the previous two generation Taurus' hideous appearances. 2010 brought a redesigned sixth-gen Taurus, and this model struck a little better with consumers, as it incorporated modern tech and a new design for the now full-size Taurus.</p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; float: inline-start; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1hpdBE-intraArticleModule-8"></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The sixth-gen Taurus featured a 263 horsepower 3.5-liter V-6, which would receive a modification in 2013, to which it then produced 288 horses. In 2016, the <strong>Taurus SHO was brought back with a twin-turbocharged EcoBoost V-6</strong> that put out 365 horsepower. A <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.topspeed.com/why-ford-dominates-the-market-for-police-cars/?utm_source=syndication" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">Taurus Police Interceptor was produced</a> soon after and featured a <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.jdpower.com/cars/2016/ford/taurus/sedan-4d-police-awd-3-7l-v6/specs?utm_source=syndication" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">3.7-liter V-6 which made 305 horsepower</a>. However, an upgraded Police Interceptor, which featured the 2013 SHO powertrain, became available, which is likely the most ridiculous Taurus to ever roll off the factory floor.</p><h3 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">The Taurus' Last Ride</h3><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;"><strong>The <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2019/03/01/ford-marks-end-of-taurus-production-legacy-of-innovation.html?utm_source=syndication" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">last Taurus rolled off the assembly line</a> on March 1st, 2019, </strong>marking the end of an era. The story of the Taurus is packed with rich lore, make-or-break moments, and huge leaps in automotive advancement. No matter your background or upbringing, most folks have come in contact with a Taurus. In fact, it's Ford's fifth best-selling vehicle, behind the F-150, Escort, Model T, and Mustang.</p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; float: inline-start; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 682px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="BB1hpdBE-intraArticleModule-9"></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;"><strong>Ford produced 8,000,000 examples in a <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://carbuzz.com/cars/ford/taurus-generations?utm_source=syndication" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">34-year production run,</a></strong> which was almost continuous. After it captured the best-selling car in North America in 1992, it held the title for five years. This not only pulled Ford out of debt but helped them regain public sentiment, further allowing Ford to rise above the competition in the years following the Taurus' heyday.</p><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/BB1hpdBt" data-image-href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/the-model-that-saved-the-ford-motor-company-from-bankruptcy-in-the-1980s/ar-BB1hpdBE?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=c3d7693fce7546c6b5efd4da7fcfa9c4&ei=20&fullscreen=true#image=1" data-is-first="true" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="BB1hpdBE-image-cms/api/amp/image/BB1hpdBt"><cp-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container" data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="BB1hpdBt" style="height: 438px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 682px;"><a aria-label="The Model That Saved The Ford Motor Company From Bankruptcy In The 1980s" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/the-model-that-saved-the-ford-motor-company-from-bankruptcy-in-the-1980s/ar-BB1hpdBE?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=c3d7693fce7546c6b5efd4da7fcfa9c4&ei=20&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" target="_self" title="Full screen"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgYiQ0Z52xPcUMeHvXYbPzATmpzsTnOOKthuDbGjQWX0S1J9gVgVz67gBrE-gsVBxP2ahvQsG-X5f6Voa-daxUfm2w11HJXPGWlScpL3_51LBMlcUuVXxUgcvsRxDlIo_HsS1o2fohiGdGJD8c1t0eDr2yiJVs1f2fEqxx2IkPeAzpcdKP-4mSelyD3wiWZ/s800/ford_taurus_coupe%20(1).jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="600" data-original-width="800" height="480" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgYiQ0Z52xPcUMeHvXYbPzATmpzsTnOOKthuDbGjQWX0S1J9gVgVz67gBrE-gsVBxP2ahvQsG-X5f6Voa-daxUfm2w11HJXPGWlScpL3_51LBMlcUuVXxUgcvsRxDlIo_HsS1o2fohiGdGJD8c1t0eDr2yiJVs1f2fEqxx2IkPeAzpcdKP-4mSelyD3wiWZ/w640-h480/ford_taurus_coupe%20(1).jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container" style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption"> This pic was in my stash I have had for years, one of the engineers gave it to me. It was a preproduction model to replace the Thunderbird coupe. but it got killed by upper management. I loved that car pic as "what could have been". but for the short sightedness of upper management at Ford at the time.</span><span class="image-caption"><br /></span><span class="image-caption"><br /></span><span class="image-caption"><br /></span><span class="image-caption"><br /></span><span class="image-caption"><br /></span><span class="image-caption"><br /></span><span class="image-caption"><br /></span><span class="image-caption"><br /></span><span class="image-caption"><br /></span><span class="image-caption"><br /></span><span class="image-caption"><br /></span></div></div></cp-article-image></div></div><div class="emaki-custom key-points" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><div class="custom_block-content"><div class="article-list-slot"><ul style="padding-inline-start: 20px;"><li data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="font-size: 18px; line-height: 28px; margin: 10px 0px;"><br /></li></ul></div></div></div>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-2302826313095523022024-01-29T08:00:00.000-05:002024-01-29T08:00:14.203-05:00"I'm a Muslim, I don't support terrorism nor hate other religions, there are thousands like me, yet people always stereotype that Muslim = terrorist?..........."<p> We came back from our cruise and it was great! The ship was big but it didn't feel big, so I wasn't "peopled" out like normal. I will post a bit about it tomorrow.</p><p> I saw this one on quora while I was at the airport waiting for the plane. I ordered the book.</p><p>Mark Roseman wrote the response.</p><p><br /></p><p><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-display--block qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/Im-a-Muslim-I-dont-support-terrorism-nor-hate-other-religions-there-are-thousands-like-me-yet-people-always-stereotype-that-Muslim-terrorist-and-Islam-is-a-religion-of-hatred-and-not-peace-Why-is-that" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); background-color: white; border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; display: block; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 21px; font-weight: 700;" target="_top"></a></p><div class="q-click-wrapper qu-display--block qu-tapHighlight--white qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline ClickWrapper___StyledClickWrapperBox-zoqi4f-0 iyYUZT" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); box-sizing: border-box; color: inherit; cursor: pointer; display: block; font: inherit; outline: none; padding: 0px; text-align: inherit; text-decoration: underline !important;" tabindex="0"><div class="q-flex qu-flexDirection--row" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-direction: row;"><div class="q-inline qu-flexWrap--wrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; flex-wrap: wrap; max-width: 100%;"><div class="QuestionTitle___StyledText-exj38m-0 chNUqN puppeteer_test_question_title" style="box-sizing: content-box !important;"><span class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text;"><span style="background: none;">I'm a Muslim, I don't support terrorism nor hate other religions, there are thousands like me, yet people always stereotype that Muslim = terrorist and Islam is (a religion of hatred and not peace). Why is that?</span></span></div></div></div></div><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">So glad you asked. After the 9/11 attacks, Americans were screaming, Who are these people? </span><span style="background: none; font-style: italic;">Muslims,</span><span style="background: none;"> we were told. President George W. Bush did everything he could to keep the lid on, to prevent a violent reaction against Muslim Americans. But Muslim Americans were strangely silent in their own defense. Oh yes, they said a few perfunctory things about a religion of peace, but it was not with the </span><span style="background: none; font-style: italic;">intensity</span><span style="background: none;"> or conviction we expected, and hardly credible.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">Several books came out to help Americans understand Islam. A good one is </span><span style="background: none; font-style: italic;">The Crisis of Islam, </span><span style="background: none;">by Bernard Lewis. If you are wondering why Americans think Islam is the religion of the sword, and a religion that has not progressed from the Dark Ages, get a copy and find out. Americans were asking themselves, What is a Caliphate? Are these people serious? As the years went by we learned about Sharia law and viewed clips of Taliban enforcers whipping women in the streets. Not exactly good PR for Islam.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">While only a small percentage of Muslims may be terrorists, we fear the Muslim community is a breeding ground and a haven for them.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">How many Muslims have publicly criticized the barbarity of the attacks against Israel, and I mean the rapes and acts of gratuitous sadism? All we hear are excuses. Where was the outcry from the Muslim community after the Boston Marathon bombing? One of the perpetrators, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, was an immigrant who became an American citizen and was later radicalized here. Hey, thanks, buddy. How many more of you are out there looking just as cute and innocent as you do?</span></p><div class="q-box" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-left: -16px; margin-right: -16px;"><div class="q-box qu-overflow--hidden" style="box-sizing: border-box; overflow: hidden;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; filter: blur(0px); margin-bottom: 1em; position: relative; transition-duration: 1s; transition-property: undefined; transition-timing-function: ease-out;"><img class="q-image qu-cursor--default qu-display--block" height="221" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-725538b9001622bde17d30fee9f7b779" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: default; display: block; height: auto; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; max-width: 100%;" width="220" /></div></div></div><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">He was captured and later explained that had he escaped, he and his brother had planned another bombing for Times Square. If you are an American citizen, how do you commit acts like that against other Americans? It is fair to assume he expected praise from other Muslims.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">Maybe you are afraid to speak out? Maybe you don’t want to suffer the fate of Salman Rushdie, living in hiding with a </span><span style="background: none; font-style: italic;">fatwa</span><span style="background: none;"> on his head for writing a book critical of Islam. What is the civilized world to think of Islam when one of its leaders calls for the assassination of a writer—and moderate Muslims don’t say anything?</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">You wrote, “I don’t support terrorism.” That is not the same as speaking out against it. Do you view acts of Islamic terrorism as murder? If you were on a jury, would you find the terrorists guilty and vote for the death penalty? Anything less tells me you are part of the problem.</span></p>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-54115344070858833072024-01-21T04:00:00.001-05:002024-01-21T04:00:00.254-05:00FAA Forms inspection teams to scan data from the affected Aircraft,<p> I will be going out of town for a week so I will be "out of pocket" as they say, and I won't be able to check anything until Monday. The spousal Unit and I are going on a cruise and it will be warmer than it is here,,,so I am excited :)</p><p><br /></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><img alt="Alaska Airlines 737 MAX 9 " border="0" class="CToWUd a6T" data-bit="iit" data-image-whitelisted="" height="1409" id="m_-5852236184379395706Picture_x0020_1" src="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=63b361b583&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-f:1788432052161665002&th=18d1c979d604d7ea&view=fimg&fur=ip&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ9RrxCIOjkNSd9l_VZUSdnP2bOhkq0oUPaJGcoiapoWIXLHDEzKX5myk10suvJZ2Th_dEklKrhmyYjwZNoOUw5leIoPGfhkuMy-q0mFb2bE4cHotn-8_hteCV8&disp=emb" style="cursor: pointer; height: 14.677in; outline: 0px; width: 22in;" tabindex="0" width="2112" /><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;">Credit: Alaska Airlines<u></u><u></u></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Data from 40 Boeing 737-9 door plug assembly inspections conducted by Alaska Airlines and United Airlines is in the hands of an FAA team of subject-matter experts tasked with determining whether the work is sufficient to clear grounded aircraft for revenue service.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The 40 checks, done in recent days based on a preliminary set of Boeing instructions, will be reviewed by FAA experts with specific knowledge of the plug door, its potential hazards, and broader maintenance practices, sources with knowledge of the process told Aviation Week.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Neither the FAA nor Boeing will discuss the process or speculate on how long the inspection review will take.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Alaska and United have 65 and 79 door plug-equipped 737-9s on the ground following a Jan. 5 inflight loss of a plug from an Alaska 737-9. Alaska pulled its aircraft immediately after the occurrence, while the FAA ordered the affected fleet grounded via a Jan. 6 emergency airworthiness directive (AD).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Complying with the AD’s order to inspect and correct any issues requires FAA-approved instructions from Boeing. The 40 checks are FAA’s first step in a deliberate process to determine what operators must do to ensure affected 737-9s are safe.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The NTSB is investigating the Jan. 5 occurrence onboard Alaska Flight 1282 in which the left-side mid cabin exit door plug tore free as the 737-9 was climbing out of Portland, Oregon. The crew immediately declared an emergency and returned to Portland. None of the 176 occupants reported serious injuries.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The plug’s separation caused an immediate depressurization of the cabin and significant damage to interior parts, such as seats and seat frames, the NTSB said. No structural damage was reported.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Investigators have not officially linked the Alaska occurrence to problems subsequently found on other aircraft, including loose hardware, during preliminary post-grounding inspections. But statements by the FAA and Boeing suggest supply chain missteps linked to preliminary inspection findings, including non-conforming work at fuselage manufacturer Spirit AeroSystems and gaps in Boeing’s quality assurance process, <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/safety-ops-regulation/faa-boeing-737-9-production-probe-adds-boeings-woes&source=gmail&ust=1705715828438000&usg=AOvVaw2O5fzNKtVa9HopJsj3u6US" href="https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/safety-ops-regulation/faa-boeing-737-9-production-probe-adds-boeings-woes" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">likely contributed</span></a> to Flight 1282’s emergency.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The FAA’s review will cover immediate actions needed to ensure the plug assemblies—which cover exit door gaps cut into every 737-9 fuselage that are not needed for lower-capacity seating configurations—meet Boeing’s approved design standards. The agency is also expected to review the door plug design to determine if any changes are needed to mitigate risks spotlighted by Flight 1282.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Broader reviews of 737-9 production and Boeing’s supply chain oversight are also underway. Boeing said it is working to identify <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/safety-ops-regulation/faa-ups-scrutiny-boeing-new-737-9-audit&source=gmail&ust=1705715828438000&usg=AOvVaw1Vy5E73RfwqANSwJq3Jg7T" href="https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/safety-ops-regulation/faa-ups-scrutiny-boeing-new-737-9-audit" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">any problems linked to the door plug issu</span></a>e or other production quality shortcomings.</span></p>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-37128834853477558092024-01-18T16:50:00.003-05:002024-01-18T16:50:42.528-05:00Boeing asks retired Navy Admiral to head up a group to look into the plug issues.<p> I Saw this, looks like Boeing is trying to be proctive, but my opinion is that they let the bean counters run the company rather than the engineers as in the days of old and now they are having a lot of problems. </p><p><br /></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><img alt="Boeing Arlington HQ" class="CToWUd a6T" data-bit="iit" data-image-whitelisted="" height="564" id="m_-6942400276084727583Picture_x0020_1" src="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=63b361b583&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-f:1788347748716144841&th=18d17ccd691868c9&view=fimg&fur=ip&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ9jgzVdC0MFhMvxjKB7wLN_O4tC2ra_uSqMLS63OyTm2un3a0gxHze48-U47FsQinD5MxYmPlDVDhO_B2iSZSw2WKVeirsyfqYt1nUsUbmczRP6aYagK2b9GeU&disp=emb" style="cursor: pointer; height: 5.875in; outline: 0px; width: 8.3333in;" tabindex="0" width="800" /><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;">Credit: Mario Tama/Getty Images<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><u></u> <u></u></p><p style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing&source=gmail&ust=1705700880171000&usg=AOvVaw0yLc_aNsf8qk-_LDOl2j11" href="https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Boeing</span></a> has tapped retired U.S. Navy Admiral Kirk Donald, a former director of the branch’s nuclear propulsion program, to lead an independent review of the company’s quality system and supplier oversight.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The review, announced Jan. 15 in a company-wide message from <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing&source=gmail&ust=1705700880171000&usg=AOvVaw0yLc_aNsf8qk-_LDOl2j11" href="https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Boeing</span></a> Commercial Airplanes President Stan Deal, will examine <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing&source=gmail&ust=1705700880171000&usg=AOvVaw0yLc_aNsf8qk-_LDOl2j11" href="https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Boeing</span></a>’s commercial airplane quality management, including “quality programs and practices in <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing&source=gmail&ust=1705700880171000&usg=AOvVaw0yLc_aNsf8qk-_LDOl2j11" href="https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Boeing</span></a> manufacturing facilities” as well as its supplier quality oversight. The team’s report and recommendations will go to <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing&source=gmail&ust=1705700880171000&usg=AOvVaw0yLc_aNsf8qk-_LDOl2j11" href="https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Boeing</span></a>’s top management and board, the company said.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Donald is no stranger to high-profile investigations. During his tenure as Director of Navy Nuclear Propulsion, he was tasked with leading a 2008 U.S. Defense Department probe into the mistaken shipments of four Tomahawk missile nose cones to Taiwan.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The Donald-led review is one of several steps <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing&source=gmail&ust=1705700880171000&usg=AOvVaw0yLc_aNsf8qk-_LDOl2j11" href="https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Boeing</span></a> is taking to ease both customer and regulatory concerns in the wake of the Jan. 5 Alaska Airlines 737-9 in-flight loss of an exit door plug and subsequent grounding of similarly configured 737-9s. <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing&source=gmail&ust=1705700880171000&usg=AOvVaw0yLc_aNsf8qk-_LDOl2j11" href="https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Boeing</span></a> will also bring customers in for inspections of its 737 production process, both at <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing&source=gmail&ust=1705700880171000&usg=AOvVaw0yLc_aNsf8qk-_LDOl2j11" href="https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Boeing</span></a> and major supplier Spirit AeroSystems, which builds the 737 fuselage sections and exit door plugs.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">While the NTSB has yet to release any information to explain the Jan. 5 occurrence, statements out of <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing&source=gmail&ust=1705700880171000&usg=AOvVaw0yLc_aNsf8qk-_LDOl2j11" href="https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Boeing</span></a> and the FAA suggest both believe mistakes by Spirit that led to the broader 737-9 groundings may have played a role in the Alaska accident.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing&source=gmail&ust=1705700880171000&usg=AOvVaw0yLc_aNsf8qk-_LDOl2j11" href="https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Boeing</span></a> also is stepping up its own quality inspection efforts, both internally and at Spirit. A separate review of Spirit’s exit door plug work is also underway, as is scrutiny of “more than 50 other points in Spirit’s build process,” Deal wrote, with special attention being paid to “assessing their build plans against engineering specifications.”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">As part of the increased focus on Spirit, <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing&source=gmail&ust=1705700880171000&usg=AOvVaw0yLc_aNsf8qk-_LDOl2j11" href="https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Boeing</span></a> CEO Dave Calhoun will head to Wichita to join Spirit AeroSystems CEO Pat Shanahan and other Spirit executives in a meeting with 737 program employees Jan. 17. The event will include <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing&source=gmail&ust=1705700880171000&usg=AOvVaw0yLc_aNsf8qk-_LDOl2j11" href="https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Boeing</span></a> employees who work in Wichita or are assigned there as part of the stepped-up scrutiny, sources with knowledge of the plans confirmed to Aviation Week.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing&source=gmail&ust=1705700880171000&usg=AOvVaw0yLc_aNsf8qk-_LDOl2j11" href="https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Boeing</span></a>’s moves come on the heels of FAA’s stepped-up scrutiny of the 737-9 program. The agency on Jan. 12 said it would audit the 737-9 production line and suppliers “to evaluate <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing&source=gmail&ust=1705700880171000&usg=AOvVaw0yLc_aNsf8qk-_LDOl2j11" href="https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Boeing</span></a>’s compliance with its approved quality procedures.” The findings “will determine whether additional audits are necessary,” the agency said. It is also stepping up monitoring of 737-9 in-service events.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Bigger picture, the agency said it will consider whether certain aspects of <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing&source=gmail&ust=1705700880171000&usg=AOvVaw0yLc_aNsf8qk-_LDOl2j11" href="https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Boeing</span></a>’s delegation program and quality oversight granted by the FAA would benefit from being under “independent, third-party entities” instead of agreed-upon leaders within <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing&source=gmail&ust=1705700880171000&usg=AOvVaw0yLc_aNsf8qk-_LDOl2j11" href="https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Boeing</span></a> and other applicants.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">“It is time to re-examine the delegation of authority and assess any associated safety risks,” FAA Administrator Mike Whitaker said. “The grounding of the 737-9 and the multiple production-related issues identified in recent years require us to look at every option to reduce risk. The FAA is exploring the use of an independent third party to oversee <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing&source=gmail&ust=1705700880171000&usg=AOvVaw0yLc_aNsf8qk-_LDOl2j11" href="https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Boeing</span></a>’s inspections and its quality system.”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Meanwhile, the FAA and <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing&source=gmail&ust=1705700880171000&usg=AOvVaw0yLc_aNsf8qk-_LDOl2j11" href="https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Boeing</span></a> will evaluate inspection results from 40 737-9s to determine what steps operators must take to ensure door plugs are safe to operate. It is not clear when the inspections and review will be done or when affected 737-9s will be cleared to return to service.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">“After reviewing <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing&source=gmail&ust=1705700880171000&usg=AOvVaw0yLc_aNsf8qk-_LDOl2j11" href="https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Boeing</span></a>’s proposed inspection and maintenance instructions, the FAA determined it needed additional data before approving them,” the agency said as part of announcing its plan to evaluate data from the 40 checks. “The FAA is encouraged by the exhaustive nature of <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing&source=gmail&ust=1705700880171000&usg=AOvVaw0yLc_aNsf8qk-_LDOl2j11" href="https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Boeing</span></a>’s instructions for inspections and maintenance. However, in the interest of maintaining the highest standard of safety the agency will not approve the inspection and maintenance process until it reviews data from the initial round of 40 inspections.</span></p>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-4250996051354780422024-01-14T07:18:00.001-05:002024-01-14T07:18:11.125-05:00A Response to the Liberal College Student about the War in Gaza<p> </p><p>My apologies for not posting sooner, I have been very busy at work, Overtime is wide open at my employer, the B737 plug debacle doesn't affect us, our 737-900's are a bit older than the FAA mandates so they are way outside the range of possibles.</p><p> I was taking a microbreak and saw this response on Quora on the Can, and it was a good response, so I shamelessly nicked it. if someone out there in internet land decides to use it against a blue hair liberal, have at it, entertain yourself, LOL. </p><p> A dude from Seattle (Yeah I'm shocked) wrote the response. Theo Edmonds.</p><div class="q-box qu-mb--small" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-bottom: 8px;"><div class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--regular qu-fontWeight--bold qu-color--gray_dark_dim qu-passColorToLinks qu-lineHeight--regular qu-wordBreak--break-word" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: calc(15px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important; font-weight: bold; line-height: 1.4; word-break: break-word;"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 UserSelectableText___StyledCssInlineComponent-lsmoq4-0"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 TitleText___StyledCssInlineComponent-sc-1hpb63h-0 hiLnej"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-display--block qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/Israel-s-committing-the-worst-atrocities-I-ve-ever-witnessed-Clearly-they-re-using-the-Hamas-attack-as-an-excuse-to-mass-murder-Palestinians-Who-will-stop-them-Is-there-anything-we-can-do-What-should-be-done" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); background-color: transparent; border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; display: block; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank"><div class="q-click-wrapper qu-display--block qu-tapHighlight--white qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline ClickWrapper___StyledClickWrapperBox-zoqi4f-0 iyYUZT" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); box-sizing: border-box; color: inherit; cursor: pointer; font: inherit; outline: none; padding: 0px; text-align: inherit;" tabindex="0"><div class="q-flex qu-flexDirection--row" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-direction: row;"><div class="q-inline qu-flexWrap--wrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; flex-wrap: wrap; max-width: 100%;"><div class="QuestionTitle___StyledText-exj38m-0 chNUqN puppeteer_test_question_title" style="box-sizing: content-box !important;"><span class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text;"><span style="background: none;">Israel’s committing the worst atrocities I’ve ever witnessed. Clearly, they’re using the Hamas attack as an excuse to mass murder Palestinians. Who will stop them? Is there anything we can do? What should be done?</span></span></div></div></div></div></a></span></span></div></div><div class="q-text" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; max-width: 100%;"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 UserSelectableText___StyledCssInlineComponent-lsmoq4-0"><span class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text;"><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">I think you are very confused.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">Let me guess: you go to an elite college, have green and purple hair, tats and piercings, change your pronoun daily, bought a “Palestinian” flag on Amazon while sipping your Frappuccino at Starbucks and thought Israel was spelled “Isreal” just 6 weeks ago.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">You live in a cocoon and your parents would be ashamed of you.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">Do you know not 10,000 but 100,000 civilians were killed or permanently displaced in Azerbaijan just four days before the October 7 attack on Israel? A group of Armenians who had lived there peacefully for decades wanted to secede. The Azerbaijanis weren’t going to give up land and swore to their genocide. The last 100,000 abandoned their homes and left (I repeat) four days before the October 7 attack. You didn’t give a shit.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">In June 2022 the UN finally tallied the number of deaths in Yemen by Saudis in defense against Iran-controlled Houthi terrorists: 150,000 killed and another 227,000 dead due to cutting off all food and healthcare services for years. The Saudis don’t fuck around - if they get attacked, all hell breaks loose. Again, just 16 months ago. You didn’t give a shit.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">You probably don’t know this but right next door to Israel, in Syria, their leader, Bashir Al-Assad had his own civilians killed. Many with chemical weapons. As of March this year, the UN counted 613,000 killed, 15.3 million displaced. Again, right next door to Israel. And again, you didn’t give a shit.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">I could go on and on.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">But you didn’t care. You don’t care.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">All you care about is feeling good about yourself - virtue signaling - and protesting night after night - from the river to the sea, globalize the intifada - without an inkling of why and what it means. You and your racist professors at your liberal arts school, drawing T-charts and labeling Jews as “oppressors”. Believe me, your professor who taught you that knew exactly what they were doing. The Arab students who got you involved knew exactly what they were doing. You were the one who had no clue.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">Next time you attend a protest, look around. You’ll see an unnatural number of “brown-skinned” people. Much higher that the typical population. Most you will not know. The ones you do probably aren’t in any of your classes. Know why? They were planted there. They aren’t students. They are funded by Qatar and Saudi Arabia to stir up easily swayed liberals like yourself. The same groups funded your professors and paid for middle eastern studies departments which didn’t exist just a few years ago. Aren’t those the professors who discussed T-charts and listed for you the oppressed (the 2.1 BILLION MUSLIMS who span 15,000 miles from Marrakesh to Jakarta) and the oppressors (the 15 million Jews, most in tiny Israel)? Sound familiar?</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">I’m not over exaggerating when I say this is chaos vs civilization. This is a group of internationally recognized terrorists, attached to the same group who attacked the US on 9–11 (look it up), France, the UK, Belgium, Netherlands and almost every other western country. This time they’re targeting a tiny global minority of 15 million people who share an outsized amount of goodwill to humankind around the world, who have been oppressed, attacked, exiled for thousands of years. Half of them were killed just 80 years ago in an event called the Holocaust (look that up as well).</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">And you have been brainwashed to think this tiny oppressed minority, who just kept trying to survive, is the oppressor? This tiny group who removed all their citizens from Gaza 18 years ago and left it for the Gazans, including an industry and economy and a gorgeous coastline to turn it into the Dubai of the Mediterranean. And instead used it as a terrorist staging areas for an estimated 50,000 rockets aimed at civilians. And the scariest thing is if you went to visit them, with your green and purple hair and tattoos and piercings, they’d take you to the nearest rooftop and push you off (look it up).</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">No, that narrative that Israel stole their land isn’t true either. Israel was given the land by the UN just like Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Lebanon. Before they were countries they were controlled by the foreign Turkish - you know, from Turkey - for 500 years called the Ottoman Empire (look it up). The land wasn’t anyone’s until after World War I (look it up) and given to them the Arab groups freely. Except Israel, where a day after the UN gave the land to them, all those Arab countries attacked this nascent country with the intent to genocide - sorry, “unalive” - them all and take their land and </span><span style="background: none; font-weight: bold;">divide it up between themselves</span><span style="background: none;">. Yes, you got it - there was never going to be a Palestinian land even then when their own Arab sister and brothers were trying to seize control. I could go on and on about how a million Jews were displaced from across the 7000 mile Arab world in retaliation for the Arabs losing that genocidal war they started, and Israel took those million refugees in, yet the Palestinians still fester.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">These people are not your friends. They do not want to defund the police. These “brown skinned people” outnumber the Israelis 140:1 (who more than half of Israelis are from the Middle East - see ‘refugees’, above). Let me repeat that number: 140:1. And here’s another: Muslim countries to Jewish countries: 50:1. And weirdly, over 20% of the Israeli population is Arab with full rights and benefits, so the claim of apartheid is a lie as well.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">Shame on you and your friends who are promoting rape, kidnapping, torture and murder. Shame on you for promoting anti-LGBTQ and intolerance. And shame on you for being so easily brainwashed. Never have there been such racist attacks and protests against such a tiny minority in the US since black slavery.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: none;">And the next attack won’t be Tel Aviv. Globalize the intifada means these people want to expand extremist Islam around the world. They will be bringing the rapes, torture, burning civilians alive and murder to your front doorstep next.</span></p></span></span></div>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-58710499587552415202024-01-08T20:08:00.000-05:002024-01-08T20:08:00.025-05:00FAA Grounds a bunch of B737-9 series of Aircraft<p>Word on the street is that "<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_AeroSystems">Spirit_AeroSystems</a>", is having a lot of quality control issues relating to labor unrest, and this is biting Boeing in the tushie right now.</p><p>I got this article from a 3rd party email from work.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><img alt="737 MAX 9 plug" class="CToWUd a6T" data-bit="iit" data-image-whitelisted="" height="533" id="m_-1204632430849832444Picture_x0020_4" src="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=63b361b583&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-f:1787530273274022277&th=18ce955013c14985&view=fimg&fur=ip&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ80OC9sAEjwugvvg-MgMY87WuIJ6NvdZG4bI07v6_Y_oyl3zaO43W2N4hWEfts0IJRVn6XQ-Ixh9KXW0RFbjvziLEP1HHLcN6SsnIL5QgO_OgQkzor_T7M800k&disp=emb" style="cursor: pointer; height: 5.552in; outline: 0px; width: 8.3229in;" tabindex="0" width="799" /><u></u><u></u></p><p style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;">A photo released by NTSB shows the Alaska Airlines 737-9 missing the fuselage plug and window section in the deactivated left-hand mid-emergency door.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;">Credit: NTSB<u></u><u></u></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The FAA has ordered immediate inspections of certain Boeing 737-9s following the Jan. 5 inflight loss of an insert covering a door-sized space in the fuselage for an optional emergency exit during an Alaska Airlines flight.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Meanwhile, the door "plug" that detached from the aircraft has been found as part of an investigation into the incident, NTSB Chair Jennifer Homendy said Jan. 7. In a late briefing Homendy said NTSB is looking into an auto-pressurization fail light on board that had illuminated three times in recent weeks. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">A Jan. 6 <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://drs.faa.gov/browse/excelExternalWindow/DRSDOCID122693486620240106201913.0001?modalOpened%3Dtrue&source=gmail&ust=1704847851089000&usg=AOvVaw2_9vMwR4Ji2tsGPgj7q-hS" href="https://drs.faa.gov/browse/excelExternalWindow/DRSDOCID122693486620240106201913.0001?modalOpened=true" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">emergency airworthiness directive (EAD)</span></a> orders immediate inspections of aircraft with the inserts, or plugs, that deactivate the exits. The EAD provides few details on the issue or its cause. It says the mandatory checks are necessary following "a report of an in-flight departure of a mid-cabin door plug, which resulted in a rapid decompression of the airplane."<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;"><img alt="NTSB" border="0" class="CToWUd a6T" data-bit="iit" data-image-whitelisted="" height="533" id="m_-1204632430849832444Picture_x0020_3" src="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=63b361b583&attid=0.2&permmsgid=msg-f:1787530273274022277&th=18ce955013c14985&view=fimg&fur=ip&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ819_D0rKnzTGb03JdAME3L4Nl74Ca_otdWUFRQzgooTOYwAm8Pn6TX3nwkjLdRm-FmJ0Xs0eTRZMmVzwkKGLjU-fHW9kCoQtmx-zhkrHoPji4l_maqJe-s7Qw&disp=emb" style="cursor: pointer; height: 5.552in; outline: 0px; width: 8.3229in;" tabindex="0" width="799" /></span><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Credit: NTSB<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The FAA in a statement said the EAD covers 171 of the 218 737-9s delivered by Boeing to date. The checks apply to 737-9s with plugs that have not yet reached 4,000 cycles, sources with knowledge of the issue tell Aviation Week. The cycle limit is linked to a threshold for routine inspections of the affected area, the sources said.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Inspections will take up to 8 hr. per aircraft, the agency said.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Boeing is developing recommended inspection protocols to comply with the directive. Once the agency reviews and approves them, operators can start inspecting aircraft, United Airlines said in a Jan. 7 update. United said it is preparing for the checks by removing interior panels to prepare aircraft for checks. United has 79 737-9s and all of them need the checks.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The European Union <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/45701&source=gmail&ust=1704847851089000&usg=AOvVaw1OOS5oBbHoqQRL6rv_Y-kK" href="https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/45701" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Aviation Safety</span></a> Agency immediately adopted FAA's directive for affected European aircraft.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">“The FAA is requiring immediate inspections of certain <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/awin/program/402135&source=gmail&ust=1704847851089000&usg=AOvVaw2zf1ZfMlqdCpHoDxOAHqUl" href="https://aviationweek.com/awin/program/402135" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Boeing 737 MAX</span></a> 9 planes before they can return to flight,” FAA Administrator Mike Whitaker said.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Boeing in a statement said it supports the FAA's decision "to require immediate inspections of 737-9 airplanes with the same configuration as the affected airplane."<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Alaska opted to ground and inspect its entire Boeing 737-9 fleet following the Jan. 5 occurrence, which took place on a flight from Portland, Oregon, to Ontario, California.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Flight 1282 departed at 4:52 p.m. PST. About 10 min into the flight as the aircraft was climbing through FL160 (16,000 ft.), a fuselage "plug" covering the gap where an optional emergency exit fits broke free. The aircraft experienced a rapid decompression. The flight crew declared an emergency and returned to Portland where the aircraft, with 171 passengers and six crew, landed safely.<u></u><u></u></span></p><h4 style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 1.5rem; margin: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: Roboto; font-weight: normal;">NTSB Update<u></u><u></u></span></h4><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">In weekend briefings Homendy confirmed the basic event timeline and provided a few new details. She confirmed that the two seats next to the ruptured plug were not occupied at the time of the accident.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The unoccupied seats and timing of the event—during climb, when passengers are often seated and belted in, instead of during cruise, when both passengers and cabin attendants are moving around—minimized the risk, Homendy suggested. Another lucky element in the accident sequence: the departing plug did not strike any part of the airframe or tail assembly.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">An NTSB team spent Jan. 7 documenting damage, deformation and witness marks on the left plug surround structure in situ, Homendy said. The team took photos and examined witness marks looking for paint transfer and identified the components they want to send back to the lab for further evaluation. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;"><img alt="NTSB" border="0" class="CToWUd a6T" data-bit="iit" data-image-whitelisted="" height="533" id="m_-1204632430849832444Picture_x0020_2" src="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=63b361b583&attid=0.3&permmsgid=msg-f:1787530273274022277&th=18ce955013c14985&view=fimg&fur=ip&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ_CTwTFPnYmLtP7TfnVW4XQwJAx27xGkImKdSwuWxDIgfi28nUetqTAUyGQZckCLxgbUaDMU7pX7dUCHFYKdNa2N5bn_Uymc5Z5Tf3OAx3f_3SF85wIMX7Nio8&disp=emb" style="cursor: pointer; height: 5.552in; outline: 0px; width: 8.3229in;" tabindex="0" width="799" /></span><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Credit: NTSB<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">“They’ll look for fractures, they’ll look at more paint marks, if anything was sheared or if there was any deformation they may be able to see it better under the microscope,” she said. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The team also plans to look at the door plug that remains intact in the fuselage. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The NTSB wants to look more closely at auto-pressurization fail light that illuminated on three previous flights in December and January. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Those three events were reported as “benign” occurrences by the airline, Homendy said. Further maintenance work to look into the light had been planned but not yet carried out by the time of the Jan. 5 incident. An E-TOPS restriction had been put in place preventing the aircraft being used on routes to Hawaii over the water so that it could return quickly to an airport if the light came on again. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The NTSB has requested documentation of any maintenance carried out on the aircraft since it was delivered in October. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">“We will want to look into that system further,” Homendy said. "It’s certainly a concern and one we want to dig into and look at what occurred there and if there is any relation at all or correlation on this event, we don’t know that at this time. It may have nothing to do with the auto-pressurization system, it could be something just wrong with the light.” <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The NTSB has sent the aircraft’s flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder to its lab but has established that the CVR was completely rewritten so will not provide any information for the investigation. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">After the end of the late Jan. 7 briefing Homendy returned to disclose that the plug had been found.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">A schoolteacher named Bob from Portland, Oregon, found the door plug in his backyard and sent in photos to the NTSB, Homendy said. NTSB would soon begin analyzing what had been a key missing component of the investigation, she said. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">"We have the safest aviation system in the world," Homendy said. "We are the global gold standard for safety around the world. But we have to maintain that standard. We are very, very fortunate here that this didn't end up in something more tragic."<u></u><u></u></span></p><h4 style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 1.5rem; margin: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: Roboto; font-weight: normal;">Plug Configuration<u></u><u></u></span></h4><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Photos released by NTSB show the aircraft is missing the fuselage plug and window section in the deactivated left-hand mid-emergency door (MED), sometimes referred to as a mid-exit door. The 737-9 has two of these Type 1 MEDs, each measuring 26 x 51 in., located aft of the trailing edge of the wing on the left and right sides of the fuselage.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">When activated, the additional emergency exit doors enable higher-capacity configurations for up to 220 passengers. However, as Alaska does not operate the 737-9 in these denser seating arrangements, the MED exits are blocked off with plugs to save weight. The plug configuration limits capacity to 189 passengers; Alaska's 737-9s have 178 seats.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The plug configuration—one of two options Boeing offers to deactivate MED exits on a 737-9—incorporates a standard window and is concealed behind a cabin interior sidewall panel section.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The plugs and surrounding fuselage section are supplied by Spirit AeroSystems, which remains under scrutiny for numerous <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/aircraft-propulsion/boeing-sets-four-sites-737-attachment-fitting-work&source=gmail&ust=1704847851089000&usg=AOvVaw02YD38vGAl-GOBXmIJWzDM" href="https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/aircraft-propulsion/boeing-sets-four-sites-737-attachment-fitting-work" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">production-quality lapses</span></a> on 737 and <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/mro/mounting-787-issues-trigger-production-slowdown-focus-shifts-deliveries&source=gmail&ust=1704847851089000&usg=AOvVaw1zHtEmky-dqN00saBZdo6G" href="https://aviationweek.com/mro/mounting-787-issues-trigger-production-slowdown-focus-shifts-deliveries" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">787 subassemblies</span></a>—its two largest programs.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;"><img alt="Plug" border="0" class="CToWUd a6T" data-bit="iit" data-image-whitelisted="" height="396" id="m_-1204632430849832444Picture_x0020_1" src="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=63b361b583&attid=0.4&permmsgid=msg-f:1787530273274022277&th=18ce955013c14985&view=fimg&fur=ip&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ-9_rGElkFQ-pFDuKy65OWM7ebhrC4gyanJUTh9PyEr1nkDmJkBpIRnZg2aGicJBXTV-gzJLhweyZWGWxMAY8rw-yQKH8YL70p4vMpxZZ-hTFv2j4l4tkFxsRA&disp=emb" style="cursor: pointer; height: 12.625in; outline: 0px; width: 12.75in;" tabindex="0" width="400" /></span><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Diagram of a Boeing 737-9 mid-cabin door plug and components. Credit: Boeing via NTSB<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">United Airlines also operates 737-9s with the blocked exits and is affected by the FAA order.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Boeing said it is in communication with Alaska and gathering more information. It is supporting the NTSB's probe.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Before the FAA's mandate, Alaska said each of the 65 affected aircraft would undergo full maintenance and safety inspections, which the carrier expects will be complete “in the next few days," CEO Ben Minicucci said in a statement.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">“We are working with Boeing and regulators to understand what occurred tonight, and will share updates as more information is available,” he added.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Alaska reviewed its maintenance records said 18 of its 737-9s had undergone routine, scheduled inspections that included examinations of the plug assembly before the in-flight occurrence. The airline initially cleared those aircraft in service, but removed them when the FAA order was issued.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">"These aircraft have now also been pulled from service until details about possible additional maintenance work are confirmed with the FAA," the airline said Jan 6. "We are in touch with the FAA to determine what, if any, further work is required before these aircraft are returned to service."<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The aircraft involved, N704AL, was delivered on Oct. 31, 2023, the <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/23609&source=gmail&ust=1704847851089000&usg=AOvVaw3ekWLswsXiDdDF80TstPkV" href="https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/23609" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Aviation Week Network</span></a> Fleet Discovery database shows. It had operated 134 cycles through Dec. 31, according to Fleet Discovery's Tracked Aircraft Utilization, including 79 in December.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The 737-9 variant, the second of the re-engined 737 Next Generation family to enter service, completed its first flight on April 13, 2017. Most of the 218 737-9s in service are with United and Alaska.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">United said that 33 of its 737-9s have already had the required inspection. It was the first North American carrier to operate the variant, in June 2018, and operates many of the highest-time airframes.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Turkish Airlines said it removed five affected 737-9s "until the technical investigation process is completed and the measures requested by the authorities are implemented," a spokesperson said.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">FlyDubai confirmed that its three aircraft are not affected because they do not have the blocked exit plug configuration.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Other operators with substantial numbers of 737-9s with deactivated exits include <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/39304&source=gmail&ust=1704847851089000&usg=AOvVaw2CaTyCDqK7XHPlH5e_CpTB" href="https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/39304" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Copa Airlines</span></a> (29), <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/30113&source=gmail&ust=1704847851089000&usg=AOvVaw15jNy2jHXRPD3UYXXwqr1Z" href="https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/30113" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Aeromexico</span></a> (18)<wbr></wbr>, Fleet Discovery shows.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Panama-based Copa said Jan. 6 that it had temporarily suspended operations of 21 737-9s until the aircraft could undergo inspections based on the FAA EAD. Copa said it had initiated the technical inspections and expected to return the aircraft “safely and reliably to the flight schedule within the next 24 hours.”</span></p>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-56563020861467259342024-01-04T20:19:00.006-05:002024-01-04T20:19:53.603-05:00JAL crash at Haneda. <p> </p><p>I pulled this off my 3rd party email from work, I am amazed that they got all the passengers and crew off the A350 with no fatalities.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><img alt="JAL A350-900 Haneda incursion burning" class="CToWUd a6T" data-bit="iit" data-image-whitelisted="" height="491" id="m_8071660024618168535Picture_x0020_1" src="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=63b361b583&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-f:1787072290043868541&th=18ccf4c78c02357d&view=fimg&fur=ip&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ-QFZ3caHh3XOdIMne5CzbDQobVYYR-GSRg1hIswxNviekzEOk5lyr3N9eVf_upEAmUBcm0pyzri_iQL7Drj1_k6DOEPZAs-FreyNVOXTwI02v1xSL07xgg3eo&disp=emb" style="cursor: pointer; height: 5.1145in; outline: 0px; width: 8.3333in;" tabindex="0" width="800" /><u></u><u></u></p><p style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;">JAL Airbus A350-900, Tokyo Haneda Jan. 2, 2024<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;">Credit: STR/JIJI PRESS/AFP via Getty Images<u></u><u></u></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">A Japan Airlines (JAL) <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/awin/program/884&source=gmail&ust=1704503446167000&usg=AOvVaw2EuhAbC2zmtpfJoAx4gcR8" href="https://aviationweek.com/awin/program/884" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Airbus A350</span></a>-900 and a Japanese Coast Guard De Havilland Canada Dash 8 have been completely destroyed in a ground collision at Tokyo’s Haneda airport shortly after the JAL aircraft’s touch-down.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">All 367 passengers and 12 crew members on board the A350 managed to escape the burning aircraft, but five of the six on board the Coast Guard aircraft have died. JAL said 13 passengers required medical attention. The airline also said the total passenger count included eight infants.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The accident is the first ever A350 hull-loss and Japan Airlines’ first accident since 1985.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">JAL stated “[Flight] JL516 was involved in a collision with a <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/24304&source=gmail&ust=1704503446167000&usg=AOvVaw0OLZy2CZfL_xUdqwGma2rk" href="https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/24304" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Japan Coast Guard</span></a> aircraft during its landing at Haneda Airport, resulting in a fire on the runway,” adding, “our thoughts and prayers are with the deceased members of the <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/24304&source=gmail&ust=1704503446167000&usg=AOvVaw0OLZy2CZfL_xUdqwGma2rk" href="https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/24304" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Japan Coast Guard</span></a>. We want to assure you that all passengers and crew on our flight were safely evacuated.”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The carrier said it will “provide our full cooperation in the investigation of this unfortunate event.”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Airbus said, “In line with <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/22159&source=gmail&ust=1704503446167000&usg=AOvVaw0kXV5028Kevoifxsimarew" href="https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/22159" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">International Civil Aviation Organization</span></a> (ICAO) Annex 13 recommendations, Airbus will provide technical assistance to the Bureau d’Enquêtes et d’Analyses (BEA) of France and to the Japan Transport Safety Board (JTSB) in charge of the investigation. For this purpose, Airbus is presently dispatching a team of specialists to assist the authorities.”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The aircraft manufacturer stated that “the exact circumstances of the event are still unknown.”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The A350 was operating flight JL516 from Sapporo with 367 passengers and 12 crew members and was landing at Haneda’s runway 34R at 5:47 p.m. local time, about 12 min. later than scheduled.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">“The aircraft did not experience any issues or irregularities during its departure from <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/372237&source=gmail&ust=1704503446167000&usg=AOvVaw1yGaMdNR-NQyD6r7dWuOpn" href="https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/372237" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">New Chitose Airport</span></a> or throughout the flight,” JAL said in a second statement. The A350’s pilots “acknowledged and repeated the landing permission from air traffic control, and then proceeded with the approach and landing procedures,” the airline added.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">According to Flightradar24 data, the aircraft was crossing the runway threshold at a normal approach speed of 122 kt. and touched the ground shortly thereafter. Airport video footage shows how the aircraft was travelling down the initial part of the runway, when suddenly it appeared to hit an obstacle with large flames erupting. With its nose gear collapsed, the aircraft continued sliding down the runway and came to rest close to the end and to the right of it, not far from the airport perimeter fence on the edge of Tokyo Bay. A picture taken by one passenger shortly after having evacuated the aircraft, shows substantial impact damage to the nose of the aircraft and the nose gear missing.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The Coast Guard aircraft had reportedly loaded aid for support victims of Monday’s earthquake on the Noto Peninsula and was understood to be preparing to take off for a flight to Niigata Air Base.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Pictures of the A350 also show that escape slides had been deployed at the two front doors and the left rear door. Passengers appeared to not use the right rear door. While emergency services attempted to extinguish the fire, the aircraft ultimately burnt down completely.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">“The aircraft’s announcement system malfunctioned during the evacuation, so cabin crew members conducted instructions using a megaphone and their voices,” JAL said. “Cabin crew members determined safe exits for evacuation, and all passengers and crew members evacuated through three emergency exits.”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">According to the <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/23609&source=gmail&ust=1704503446167000&usg=AOvVaw2_pMtO02UnUMvvarQjlJO4" href="https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/23609" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Aviation Week Network</span></a> Fleet Discovery database, the aircraft registered JA13XJ (MSN 538) was delivered to JAL on Nov. 10, 2021. It had since accumulated 4,421 flight hrs. in 3,220 cycles. The aircraft was equipped in the high-density 367-seat configuration JAL has installed for domestic and short-haul flights. These include 12 seats in first, 94 in business and 263 in economy. The Coast Guard aircraft was a Dash 8-315Q registered JA722A. It has been delivered on Feb. 26, 2008. The aircraft had 7,573 hrs. and 2,700 cycles.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Haneda, one of Tokyo’s two international airports, stopped all take-offs or landings temporarily. According to Flightradar24, 110 flights scheduled to land at Haneda on the evening of Jan. 2 were either canceled or diverted to other airports including Tokyo-Narita.<u></u><u></u></span></p><h4 style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 1.5rem; margin: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: Roboto; font-weight: normal;">Composite Structure Flammability<u></u><u></u></span></h4><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">JL516 is the first A350 completely destroyed in an accident. The investigation could provide valuable insight into the flammability of large composite aircraft structures based on in-service experience that have so far been unavailable. In July 2013, an <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/21507&source=gmail&ust=1704503446167000&usg=AOvVaw3VrcL4WVVHyinhGFNnD3x6" href="https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/21507" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Ethiopian Airlines</span></a> <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/awin/program/639&source=gmail&ust=1704503446167000&usg=AOvVaw2K7OyT9-jXCc6oPX7DAJGP" href="https://aviationweek.com/awin/program/639" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Boeing 787</span></a> suffered substantial, but much smaller, fire damage caused by a thermal runaway of the emergency locator transmitter (ELT) battery when on the ground at London Heathrow.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Flammability experts know composite-skinned airframes burn “inherently differently” than their aluminum counterparts, a 2012 U.S. Air Force Research Laboratory study on the subject noted. Aircraft composite material is a beneficial insulator that can help resist heat from nearby sources, such as an external fire, the study said. But those same properties make it difficult to cool down once it has heated up and present challenges for extinguishing parts of a fire that are hidden from firefighters.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Informal Boeing guidance on fighting composite aircraft fires issued after the 787 was introduced does not recommend “any major changes” from standard protocol.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">“Extensive testing has been conducted in regards to combustibility and toxicity related to the composite structure,” the document, last updated in 2022, said. “This design not only adds to the strength of the product, but also makes it a good barrier to fire and heat. The structure does not aid in the spread of fire and acts as a barrier creating greater difficulty for an exterior fire to penetrate an intact fuselage. From a toxicity perspective, the composite structure during fire testing poses no greater hazard than an aluminum fuselage aircraft. Also, note that the burn through time on the composite structure is significantly longer than with the aluminum fuselage which may inherently provide greater safety to both the rescue fire responders and passengers in some scenarios.”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The accident will add to learnings from recent passenger evacuation and broader cabin safety improvement efforts. While the exact sequence of the evacuation will form part of the accident investigation, it is clear that all 389 people on board a densely configured widebody managed to escape the aircraft with only three of the four main slides being used.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">JAL’s last hull-loss occurred on Aug 12, 1985, when a Boeing 747SR crashed into a mountain en route from Haneda to Osaka. The aircraft’s hydraulic systems ruptured after a violent failure of the rear pressure bulkhead. In one of the worst accidents in commercial aviation history, all 520 people on board died.</span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;"> This came in the next day, </span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The Coast Guard Plane entered the Runway despite being told to "hold" by the tower.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><img class="CToWUd a6T" data-bit="iit" data-image-whitelisted="" height="534" id="m_-7560071538414922348Picture_x0020_1" src="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=63b361b583&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-f:1787160267184049776&th=18cd44cb52328e70&view=fimg&fur=ip&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ_iWcLhw6Em14I8LQ84fqI59VV5a0FZ3Fc0wdUIHx7PYvmf0GMIMcvD5DhmrSYRFSZcfybe6FsbOVmQdQ3oJEAuEEsFDNBdxeKTfuaJWbDF4WzMzjXmaiemEQc&disp=emb" style="cursor: pointer; height: 5.5625in; outline: 0px; width: 8.3333in;" tabindex="0" width="800" /><u></u><u></u></p><p style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;">Wreckage of Japan Coast Guard Dash 8 at Tokyo Haneda Airport, Jan. 3, 2024<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;">Credit: Richard A. Brooks/AFP via Getty Images<u></u><u></u></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">WASHINGTON and SINGAPORE—The <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/24304&source=gmail&ust=1704503444329000&usg=AOvVaw0cbpt824qGLeVG9L5hjIAb" href="https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/24304" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Japan Coast Guard</span></a> De Havilland Canada Dash 8 struck by an arriving Japan Airlines (JAL) <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/awin/program/884&source=gmail&ust=1704503444329000&usg=AOvVaw3LCyijeh32LHo87Cm_zFYS" href="https://aviationweek.com/awin/program/884" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Airbus A350</span></a> at Tokyo International Airport Jan. 3 was on the runway despite air traffic control (ATC) instructions to hold short on an intersecting taxiway—directions that one of the Dash 8 pilots read back correctly, a transcript released by Japan’s Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism (MLIT) shows.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">“Tower, JA722A C,” someone from the <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/24304&source=gmail&ust=1704503444329000&usg=AOvVaw0cbpt824qGLeVG9L5hjIAb" href="https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/24304" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Japan Coast Guard</span></a> (JCG) Dash 8-300 radioed to Tokyo Haneda (HND) tower ATC, indicating the aircraft is checking in from Taxiway C with its tail number as a call sign, according to the transcript.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">“JA722A, Tokyo tower good evening,” a controller responded. “Number one, taxi to holding point C5.”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The “number one” suggests the aircraft is next in line to depart. The rest is clear: Move to the marked stopping point on taxiway C5, which connects to HND’s Runway 34 Right (34R).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">“Taxi to holding point C5 JA722A, number one, thank you,” someone on the JCG Dash 8 said.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">But instead of stopping at the hold-short line on C5, the Dash 8 taxied onto the runway.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Ten seconds before the exchange began, ATC cleared JAL Flight 516 (JAL516), the inbound A350-900, to land on 34R.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Surveillance video shows the Dash 8 moved onto 34R and stopped—something a pilot would do if executing a “line up and wait” ATC command that gives an aircraft permission to enter the runway but not depart.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Nearly 50 sec. after the Dash 8 stopped, the A350, which touched down seconds before closer to the runway end, struck the national guard aircraft. Five of the six Dash 8 occupants died, while <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/safety-ops-regulation/first-airbus-a350-hull-loss-after-haneda-runway-incursion&source=gmail&ust=1704503444330000&usg=AOvVaw0Z0KQ5egynzgpksJYsAOcc" href="https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/safety-ops-regulation/first-airbus-a350-hull-loss-after-haneda-runway-incursion" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">all 379 onboard JAL516 evacuated safely</span></a> once the widebody came to rest.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">According to a transcript excerpt released by MLIT, JAL516 contacted Tokyo Tower at 5:43:02 p.m. local time, and was instructed by tower controller to continue its approach to runway 34R. JAL516, first in line to land, read back ATC’s instructions.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">JAL516 was then cleared to land at 5:44:56 p.m. and a pilot read back the instructions.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">At 5:45:11 p.m., JA722A called into tower frequency notifying of its position on taxiway C. ATC gave the instructions to proceed to the C5 hold line, which JA722A confirmed eight seconds later.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Communications from several other aircraft are detailed in the transcript excerpt, including departing Delta Air Lines and JAL flights told to hold short at C1 as well as another arriving JAL flight.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The transcript ends before the collision. A JAL statement puts JAL516’s arrival time at 5:47 p.m.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The exchange suggests how ATC instructions were given and followed will be one of the key focus areas for investigators as they work to piece together the accident’s chain of events.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Also of interest will be the status and condition of airfield lighting and safety aids. A Notice to Air Missions (NOTAM) issued Dec. 27, 2023, and effective through late February lists several airfield aids at HND as out of service. Among them: lights that illuminate stop bars along the connections between Taxiway C to the accident runway, including C5. Runway 34L centerline lights were also listed as inoperative. It is not clear if the C5 stop bar lights or centerline lights were working at the time of the accident.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Investigators will also look closely at how an aircraft could be on an active HND runway for nearly 1 min. without being detected, even in the dark. An ICAO document shows HND is one of many airports that uses surface movement radar—a long-used method of supplementing the visual view of the airfield controllers have. The system’s performance and controllers’ familiarity with it are other likely topics investigators will probe.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The Japan Safety Transport Board (JTSB) is leading the accident investigation with assistance from several organizations, including Airbus and investigators from France’s Bureau of Enquiry and Analysis for Civil <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/45701&source=gmail&ust=1704503444330000&usg=AOvVaw0dEob4rqHS_URJEL70N95u" href="https://aviationweek.com/awin/company/45701" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #4d85ba;">Aviation Safety</span></a> (BEA). JTSB has recovered the Dash 8 cockpit voice recorder.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 15pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #080808; font-family: "Source Serif Pro", serif; font-size: 12pt;">The accident caused the cancellation of 137 domestic and four international flights from HND on Jan. 3, MLIT said.</span></p>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-57813259825303125722024-01-02T19:08:00.001-05:002024-01-02T19:08:17.834-05:0050 Years ago the "Gulag Archipelago" was released in Russian.<p> I have used a quote from the book on my blog more than once, actually quite a few times.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj2xaK8glVTedOKtE5V4o3D7oiCWbZ2EcpxjDdYD21Fn0_0E_CysSCqn27Cnl05naoCTvO3o1qFqkDg3CsGYlmn2Xy2bMaotelnzy2ey2ZPQgKMX5d59U51_w4sOtMea9UAn15YjgQxF1xSFOL7LYwrBCLaA8QgrbtFyyrlzg4P8kIpQCS8UH_KhA0v0f5V/s500/Solzhenitsyn-quote.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="283" data-original-width="500" height="362" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj2xaK8glVTedOKtE5V4o3D7oiCWbZ2EcpxjDdYD21Fn0_0E_CysSCqn27Cnl05naoCTvO3o1qFqkDg3CsGYlmn2Xy2bMaotelnzy2ey2ZPQgKMX5d59U51_w4sOtMea9UAn15YjgQxF1xSFOL7LYwrBCLaA8QgrbtFyyrlzg4P8kIpQCS8UH_KhA0v0f5V/w640-h362/Solzhenitsyn-quote.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p> There is a lesson here for any qould be tyrant that when people have nothing to lose...the state will lose.</p><p> I saw this chasing another article at work..."Where else,. LOL"</p><p style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-top: 0in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">Just after Christmas 50 years ago, the original Russian edition of the first two parts of </span><em><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">The Gulag Archipelago</span></em><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;"> was published, followed by French and English translations the next year. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn dedicated his book “to all those who did not live to tell it.”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1.875rem; margin-top: 0in; outline: none !important;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">This was followed by second and third volumes in 1975 (parts three and four) and 1976 (parts five through seven), with corresponding translations in 1976 and 1978. Harper Collins publishes an authorized <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-gulag-archipelago-aleksandr-i-solzhenitsyn?variant%3D39307360632866&source=gmail&ust=1704326520702000&usg=AOvVaw1xyR3yDdO71zlL2bKhiaFZ" href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-gulag-archipelago-aleksandr-i-solzhenitsyn?variant=39307360632866" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">abridged</a> edition.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><u></u> <u></u></p><p style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-top: 0in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">My parents emigrated from the Soviet Union. From what they told me, I developed a deep reluctance to being frog-marched to Kolyma courtesy of unilateral disarmament peaceniks, who are nowadays called “woke” with alternate grievances but the same collectivist Borg mentality. With that mindset, I purchased copies of all <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://archive.org/details/TheGulagArchipelago-Threevolumes/The-Gulag-Archipelago__vol1__I-II__Solzhenitsyn/&source=gmail&ust=1704326520702000&usg=AOvVaw17G3T_bSvNYgq5P2F_BJ_v" href="https://archive.org/details/TheGulagArchipelago-Threevolumes/The-Gulag-Archipelago__vol1__I-II__Solzhenitsyn/" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">three volumes</a> as they became available and read them with curiosity and sorrow.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1.875rem; margin-top: 0in; outline: none !important;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">Unlike <em>Gulag</em> by Anne Applebaum (2004), Solzhenitsyn’s treatment does not present a comprehensive history of Soviet slave labor camps. Rather, it’s an anthology of vignettes, both firsthand and described by other former inmates, woven into a damning indictment of communism under Moscow’s dominion.<u></u><u></u></span></p><h2 style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 2.125rem; margin: 3.75rem 0px 1.875rem; outline: none !important;"><strong><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif;">Frozen Apocalypse</span></strong><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif;"><u></u><u></u></span></h2><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1.875rem; margin-top: 0in; outline: none !important;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">Prior to <em>Archipelago</em>’s release, Americans and Western Europeans had been exposed to only glimpses of communist inhumanity, mostly from the few survivors who had escaped their dystopias by fortitude and fortune. But their voices were seldom heard, drowned out by a cacophony of Soviet apologists who insisted socialist coercion represented the ideal manner for ordering other people around. Central planning is benevolent, you see.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1.875rem; margin-top: 0in; outline: none !important;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">Solzhenitsyn tore the curtain away from this façade and forced the “progressive” elite to confront the ugly truth: Their prosperous socialist utopia was a cruel and barbaric sham. “Gulag” is a Russian acronym, for <em><u>G</u></em><em>lavnoye <u>u</u>pravleniye <u>lag</u>er<wbr></wbr>eii i mest zaklyucheniya (</em>Главное управление лагерей и мест заключения). It’s translated as General Authority on Internment and Detention.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><u></u> <u></u></p><p style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-top: 0in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">These prisons and labor camps established across Russia, with a sprinkling in Ukraine and Kazakhstan, contained uncounted millions from the various ethnic “republics” of the Soviet Union. Solzhenitsyn employed the term “archipelago” as a metaphor for this collection of penal islands within a broad </span><em><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">terra firma</span></em><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">. Here, “enemies of the people” — those we might now call “deplorables” — could be punished for their alleged thought crimes, mostly under Art. 58, sec. 10 of the Russian Federation’s penal code.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1.875rem; margin-top: 0in; outline: none !important;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">These sites within the vast Soviet domain are expressed in the map from <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://en.gariwo.net/education/insights/gulag-7836.html&source=gmail&ust=1704326520702000&usg=AOvVaw3-32zCIairo5rluPlrA9vC" href="https://en.gariwo.net/education/insights/gulag-7836.html" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">Gariwo</a> below.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;"><img border="0" class="CToWUd a6T" data-bit="iit" data-image-whitelisted="" height="604" id="m_1323471697057760369Picture_x0020_2" src="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=63b361b583&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-f:1786698284171107365&th=18cba09f84d19c25&view=fimg&fur=ip&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ9zObqgsxizfdRrkeoo29c2etPvIXUwDx2bEtgE4J5qR5zcTp-fSh6l0IuB_r6THGS8ilxwuhNIpgV3qwKkS3Gvb5bA_xNJUyqXLwqo8OMRrBgQx58Z2DCvlZQ&disp=emb" style="cursor: pointer; height: 6.2916in; outline: 0px; width: 10.4166in;" tabindex="0" width="1000" /></span><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1.875rem; margin-top: 0in; outline: none !important;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">Vladimir Lenin as </span><em><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">de facto</span></em><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;"> head of the Communist (Bolshevik) Party in Russia began using terror to subdue the populace immediately after seizing power. He particularly used state-authorized secret police, with labor camps created in May 1918.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1.875rem; margin-top: 0in; outline: none !important;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">The first Soviet secret police was called by its initials, ChK in the Cyrillic alphabet. As the party’s policies transitioned under party secretary Iosif Stalin, this clandestine terror machine was followed by a scattered assignment of letters, including GPU, OGPU, NKGD, MGB, MVD, and finally KGB after Stalin’s death. Their tactics expanded into neighboring countries with Russian territorial acquisition.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><u></u> <u></u></p><h2 style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><strong><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif;">Solzhenitsyn’s Life</span></strong><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif;"><u></u><u></u></span></h2><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1.875rem; margin-top: 0in; outline: none !important;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">Born in 1918, Solzhenitsyn studied mathematics at Rostov University. He served as an artillery captain in the Red Army, defending the country from the Nazi invasion during the Second World War. He was arrested in February 1945 for derogatory comments about Stalin in a private letter and sentenced to eight years in a Kazakhstan labor camp. Upon completing his sentence in March 1953, still in internal exile, he was belatedly treated for cancer in Tashkent.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1.875rem; margin-top: 0in; outline: none !important;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">In February 1956, Nikita Khrushchev delivered his “Personality Cult” speech to the Communist Party Congress. It implicitly criticized mass incarceration. In the aftermath, Solzhenitsyn was released from exile. During this period, he published a novella, <em>One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich</em> (1962) about life in the camps.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1.875rem; margin-top: 0in; outline: none !important;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">The Politburo deposed Khrushchev in October 1964, quashing the brief literary thaw. Solzhenitsyn continued writing, and a few of his novels were published in the West, notably <em>Cancer Ward</em> and <em>The First Circle</em> (both in 1968).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1.875rem; margin-top: 0in; outline: none !important;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">Solzhenitsyn labored quietly and clandestinely to compose <em>The Gulag Archipelago</em> from 1958 to 1967. These writings were based on his observations and testimonies from former prisoners in a magnum opus collection. He carefully maintained several copies, both internally and abroad, but because many of the people he interviewed remained alive and vulnerable, he declined to publish the contents. In the afterward, he apologizes for his inability to properly edit the materials because he didn’t dare assemble all the text in a single location where all of it could be confiscated.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><u></u> <u></u></p><p style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-top: 0in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">Soviet authorities seized a hidden copy in late 1973, prompting Solzhenitsyn to publish a draft in safekeeping beyond the Iron Curtain. Deported from his homeland in February 1974 to (then West) Germany, he briefly sojourned in Switzerland before settling in Vermont.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1.875rem; margin-top: 0in; outline: none !important;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">Solzhenitsyn continued writing books, including </span><em><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">Lenin in Zurich</span></em><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;"> (1976) and a memoir, </span><em><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">The Oak and the Calf</span></em><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;"> (1981). In May 1994, he returned to Russia, noting the changes from his two decades of absence. He continued writing and died in Moscow in 2008.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><u></u> <u></u></p><h2 style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><strong><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif;">First Volume</span></strong><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif;"><u></u><u></u></span></h2><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1.875rem; margin-top: 0in; outline: none !important;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">The first volume is divided into two parts: “I The Prison Industry” and “II Perpetual Motion.” These describe the Communist Party’s terror organizations, the prisons with their wardens and psychological toll on inmates, the quasi-legal tropes used to justify arrest and torture, and the logistics of transporting prisoners from prisons to camps.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1.875rem; margin-top: 0in; outline: none !important;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">In part I’s fourth chapter, Solzhenitsyn encourages humility about human vulnerability to evil. “If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1.875rem; margin-top: 0in; outline: none !important;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">In the fifth chapter, another comment resonated with me: “I had grown up among engineers, and I could remember the engineers of the twenties very well indeed: their open, shining intellects, their free and gentle humor, their agility and breadth of thought, the ease with which they shifted from one engineering field to another, and, for that matter, from technology to social concerns and art. Then, too, they personified good manners and delicacy of taste; well-bred speech that flowed evenly and was free of uncultured words; one of them might play a musical instrument, another dabble in painting; and their faces always bore a spiritual imprint.” (STEM types on our side are a tad more plebeian.) What happened to them? They got replaced.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1.875rem; margin-top: 0in; outline: none !important;"><em><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">Archipelago</span></em><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;"> doesn’t address the communist purges directly. Those decimated more privileged members of society, especially party members. This thinned the ranks of technical specialists and senior military officers. Back in 1975 during a Soviet exhibition, I purchased a booklet, <em>Rocket Engines GDL-OKB</em>, by Valentin Glushko. Of the 10 men it mentions who were born between 1893 and 1907, fully half died in the 1930s — implicitly casualties of the prewar liquidation.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><u></u> <u></u></p><p style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-top: 0in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">Another 17 men whose photographs were taken during their prime had no dates identified. This suggests additional victims of state paranoia. Whether these engineers and technicians were summarily executed or worked to death remains unknown.<u></u><u></u></span></p><h2 style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 2.125rem; margin: 3.75rem 0px 1.875rem; outline: none !important;"><strong><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif;">Second Volume</span></strong><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif;"><u></u><u></u></span></h2><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1.875rem; margin-top: 0in; outline: none !important;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">Volume two is also divided into two parts: “III The Destructive-Labor Camps” and “IV Soul & Barbed Wire.” These chapters describe conditions in the labor camps, especially the backbreaking labor to dig the White Sea Canal in 1931-33. The photograph below illustrates the wretched working conditions.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;"><img border="0" class="CToWUd a6T" data-bit="iit" data-image-whitelisted="" height="833" id="m_1323471697057760369Picture_x0020_1" src="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=63b361b583&attid=0.2&permmsgid=msg-f:1786698284171107365&th=18cba09f84d19c25&view=fimg&fur=ip&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ_M9284kR_oKrWiXu_6_n8mx2S4APoZnyO19lMzfql99SNAOn4Ca-YLMXCN77iA0Ex2g9nJIp6zYdBuZaX1dSHc31BUcFcZZXyFLRyUkULi4Zq3i2aOw0zmyoA&disp=emb" style="cursor: pointer; height: 8.677in; outline: 0px; width: 10.6666in;" tabindex="0" width="1024" /></span><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">Public domain / <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Canal_Mer_Blanche.jpg&source=gmail&ust=1704326520702000&usg=AOvVaw1OAF8GSpc0GSsMTRbi9zAz" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Canal_Mer_Blanche.jpg" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">Wikimedia</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1.875rem; margin-top: 0in; outline: none !important;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">The unrelenting recitation of tragic stories can be numbing. Nonetheless, one recounted in part III’s 10th chapter stood out regarding one woman’s arrest and detention.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1.5rem; line-height: 18pt; margin: 0in; opacity: 1; outline: none !important;"><i><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">Grusha … committed a crime of simply astounding gravity. She worked at a glass factory for twenty-three years and her neighbors had never seen an icon in her home. But just before the [invading] Germans got to her district she did put up some icons. … Then, too, she had picked up near her house a pretty German leaflet with a picture and pushed it into the vase on her dresser. And despite all this our humane court, taking into consideration her proletarian origins, gave Grusha only eight years of camp and three years of disenfranchisement. Meanwhile, her husband perished at the front. And her daughter was a student in the technological institute, but the cadres kept tormenting her: ‘Where is your mother?’ And the girl poisoned herself. (Grusha could never get past the point of her daughter’s death in telling her story. She sobbed and went out.)<u></u><u></u></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">Solzhenitsyn segues to courage in the third chapter: “Every act of resistance to the government required heroism quite out of proportion to the magnitude of the act. It was safer to keep dynamite during the rule of Alexander II than it was to shelter the orphan of an enemy of the people under Stalin. Nonetheless, how many such children were taken in and saved.”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><b><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 18pt;">Third Volume<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">Volume three is divided into three parts: “V Katorga,” “VI Exile,” and “VII Stalin Is No More.” These chapters explain the transition of penal labor (<i>katorga</i>) from Tsarist rule to the Soviet version as well as the occasional resistance and escape.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">One meeting in part V’s 11th chapter erupted into confrontation:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 18pt; margin: 0px;"><i><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">One of the foremen, T., rose and spoke slowly, almost inarticulately, whether because that was natural to him or because he was extremely agitated. ‘I used to agree … when other prisoners said … we live … ·like dogs …’ The brute in the presidium bristled. T. kneaded the cap in his hands, an ugly crop-headed convict, his coarsened features contorted by his struggle to find the right words. ‘But now 1 see that 1 was wrong …’ The brute’s face cleared. ‘We live-much worse than dogs,’ T. rapped out with sudden emphasis, and all the foremen sat bolt upright. ‘A dog has only one number on his collar; we have four. Dogs are fed on meat; we’re fed on fishbones. A dog doesn’t get put in the cooler! A dog doesn’t get shot at from watchtowers! Dogs don’t get twenty-fivers pinned on them!’ They could interrupt whenever they liked now — he had said all that mattered.<u></u><u></u></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">In part VII’s third chapter, Solzhenitsyn excoriates apologists for Soviet misrule: “All you freedom-loving ‘left-wing’ thinkers in the West! … As far as you are concerned, this whole book of mine is a waste of effort. You may suddenly understand it all someday — but only when you yourselves hear ‘hands behind your backs there!’ and step ashore on our Archipelago.” He knew his disclosures would meet that era’s version of cancel culture.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><b><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 18pt;">Reception<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">American and European intelligentsia dismissed testimonies of Russia’s socialist utopia. Can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs. (Among all the eggshells, where’s the omelet?)<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><u></u> <u></u></p><p style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-top: 0in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">In 1978 following </span><em><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">Archipelago’s</span></em><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;"> <wbr></wbr>publication, at <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/alexandersolzhenitsynharvard.htm&source=gmail&ust=1704326520702000&usg=AOvVaw3yxX_kuOP0e-TwIwt6DtWF" href="https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/alexandersolzhenitsynharvard.htm" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">Harvard University</a> Solzhenitsyn excoriating Western leaders: “A decline in courage may be the most striking feature which an outside observer notices in the West in our days. … Such a decline in courage is particularly noticeable among the ruling groups and the intellectual elite, causing an impression of loss of courage by the entire society. Of course, there are many courageous individuals, but they have no determining influence on public life.”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1.875rem; margin-top: 0in; outline: none !important;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">In 2004, the late Joseph Ratzinger (the future Pope Benedict XVI) <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.communio-icr.com/articles/view/introduction-to-christianity&source=gmail&ust=1704326520702000&usg=AOvVaw1maBruKT_um7dBSX3S5-le" href="https://www.communio-icr.com/articles/view/introduction-to-christianity" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">lamented</a> that even after the fall of the Berlin Wall “how little was said about the horrors of the Communist Gulag, how isolated Solzhenitsyn’s voice remained. … It was about justice for all, about peace, about doing away with unfair master-servant relationships, and so on. Marxism believed that it had to dispense with ethical principles for the time being and that it was allowed to use terror as a beneficial means to these noble ends. Once the resulting human devastation became visible, even for a moment, the former ideologues preferred to retreat to a pragmatic position or else declared quite openly their contempt for ethics.”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1.875rem; margin-top: 0in; outline: none !important;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">Jesus condemns this human lack of perception in comparing motes and logs (Matt. 7:3-5). We refuse to recognize evil and hence are paralyzed to confront its manifestations when they arise. That deficit can and often does result in massively deadly consequences.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1.875rem; margin-top: 0in; outline: none !important;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">The will to dominate runs deep in the human psyche. </span><em><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">Archipelago</span></em><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;"> reminds us such <a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v%3Dj-gqJdKJPR0&source=gmail&ust=1704326520702000&usg=AOvVaw11CShmazlrw_cf_I4G1BI0" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-gqJdKJPR0" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">despotic cruelty</a> became commonplace in living memory with few held accountable.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 1.875rem; margin-top: 0in; outline: none !important;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">Moreover, such atrocities continue today behind barbed wire in western China, North Korea, and elsewhere on the globe. Solzhenitsyn warns us all of the consequences should resistance to totalitarianism fail.<u></u><u></u></span></p><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px; text-align: center;"><hr align="center" noshade="" size="2" style="width: 75pt;" width="100" /></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><i><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 15pt;">G. W. Thielman has bachelor’s and master’s degrees in engineering. He is currently employed as a patent attorney, and lives in Fredericksburg, Virginia. His opinions are his own.</span></i></p>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-9112408964553894722023-12-31T00:00:00.006-05:002023-12-31T00:00:00.239-05:00Congressman Andrew may have caused the death of 800 sailors during WWII<p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;"><span class="dropcap-element-slot" style="float: left; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 64px; line-height: 52px; margin-inline-end: 8px;"><br /></span></p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">I heard something about this a few years ago but just generalities that a congresscritter shot off his mouth during a press conference and released classified information that compromised operational assets. No it wasn't the first time and yes it has happened since and funny that nothing seems to happen to those clowns.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;"> I saw this article chasing a car article...so I clipped it.</p>There is a reason certain military knowledge is classified: so it doesn't fall into the hands of the enemy. Congressman Andrew May didn't get the memo, as an ill-fated press conference led to the loss of an estimated 10 submarines and the deaths of 800 Navy crewmen.<p></p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">The May Incident</h2><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/uss-constitution-and-constitution-grove.html" rel="noopener" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">United States Navy</a> was known for its successes following the country's entrance into <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/disney-drew-1200-military-insignia.html" rel="noopener" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">WWII</a>. Despite <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.warhistoryonline.com/instant-articles/the-japanese-navy-has-its-first-aircraft-carrier-since-wwii.html" rel="noopener" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">Japanese</a> attempts to sink their vessels, the Allied forces managed to evade their attacks. This was because, at the time, the <em>Balao</em>-class of submarine could dive to depths of 400 feet, deeper than the Japanese set their depth charges.</p><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/AA1lt9NS" data-image-href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/congressman-andrew-may-caused-the-death-of-800-submarine-crewmen-during-wwii/ar-AA1mdqkP?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=44002f3a7e4b4133f1a7110f1293ddf5&ei=21&fullscreen=true#image=1" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="AA1mdqkP-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1lt9NS"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="AA1mdqkP-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1lt9NS"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container " data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="AA1lt9NS" style="height: 696px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="Kentucky Congressman Andrew J. May, 1939. (Photo Credit: Harris and Ewing / Wikimedia Commons)" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/congressman-andrew-may-caused-the-death-of-800-submarine-crewmen-during-wwii/ar-AA1mdqkP?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=44002f3a7e4b4133f1a7110f1293ddf5&ei=21&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" target="_self"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><a class="article-image-height-wrapper article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/congressman-andrew-may-caused-the-death-of-800-submarine-crewmen-during-wwii/ar-AA1mdqkP?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=44002f3a7e4b4133f1a7110f1293ddf5&ei=21&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="border-radius: 6px; display: block; height: 640px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;" target="_self"><div style="background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1lt9NS.img?w=511&h=640&m=6&x=174&y=199&s=64&d=64") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 640px;"></div><img alt="Kentucky Congressman Andrew J. May, 1939. (Photo Credit: Harris and Ewing / Wikimedia Commons)" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1lt9NS.img?w=511&h=640&m=6&x=174&y=199&s=64&d=64" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto !important;" title="Kentucky Congressman Andrew J. May, 1939. (Photo Credit: Harris and Ewing / Wikimedia Commons)" /></a><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container " style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">Kentucky Congressman Andrew J. May, 1939. (Photo Credit: Harris and Ewing / Wikimedia Commons)</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Provided by War History Online</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></slot></div><p><span style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;">In 1943, Andrew May, chairman of the House Military Affairs Committee, embarked on a tour of American military areas in the</span><span style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"> </span><a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/catalina-3.html" rel="noopener" style="font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">Pacific Theater</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;">, during which he was privy to a host of sensitive war-related information. When he returned that June, he held a press conference, where he revealed that American submarines only had a high survival rate because the Japanese charges were exploding at too shallow a depth</span> </p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">The fallout of a blabbermouth</h2><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Not long after this news spread, the Japanese naval anti-submarine forces adjusted their charges to explode at a greater depth. This prompted Vice Admiral Charles A. Lockwood, commander of the US submarine fleet in the Pacific, to estimate that May's breach cost the Navy 10 <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.warhistoryonline.com/instant-articles/metallurgist-pleads-guilty-to-falsifying-steel-test-results-for-us-navy-submarines.html" rel="noopener" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">submarines</a> and resulted in the deaths of some 800 crewmen.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">"I hear Congressman May said the Jap depth charges are not set deep enough," he <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_J._May" rel="noopener" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">said</a>. "He would be pleased to know that the Japs set them deeper now."</p><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/AA1ltgMO" data-image-href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/congressman-andrew-may-caused-the-death-of-800-submarine-crewmen-during-wwii/ar-AA1mdqkP?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=44002f3a7e4b4133f1a7110f1293ddf5&ei=21&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="AA1mdqkP-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1ltgMO"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="AA1mdqkP-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1ltgMO"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container " data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="AA1ltgMO" style="height: 642px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="The USS Balao , a Balao -class submarine. (Photo Credit: Wikimedia Commons)" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/congressman-andrew-may-caused-the-death-of-800-submarine-crewmen-during-wwii/ar-AA1mdqkP?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=44002f3a7e4b4133f1a7110f1293ddf5&ei=21&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" target="_self"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><a class="article-image-height-wrapper article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/congressman-andrew-may-caused-the-death-of-800-submarine-crewmen-during-wwii/ar-AA1mdqkP?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=44002f3a7e4b4133f1a7110f1293ddf5&ei=21&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="border-radius: 6px; display: block; height: 586px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;" target="_self"><div style="background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1ltgMO.img?w=740&h=586&m=6") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 586px;"></div><img alt="The USS Balao , a Balao -class submarine. (Photo Credit: Wikimedia Commons)" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1ltgMO.img?w=740&h=586&m=6" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto !important;" title="The USS Balao , a Balao -class submarine. (Photo Credit: Wikimedia Commons)" /></a><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container " style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">The USS Balao , a Balao -class submarine. (Photo Credit: Wikimedia Commons)</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Provided by War History Online</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The Navy's Pacific Submarine Fleet released a report following the press conference, in which it determined Japanese anti-submarine warfare (ASW) forces had failed to uncover the maximum depth the US submarine fleet could reach. However, it failed to state whether the Japanese had altered their depth charge attacks to deeper positions due to May's revelation.</p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Alleged war profiteering</h2><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The ill-fated press conference wasn't the only ding to Andrew May's career. During the early stages of the war, he became involved with two <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.warhistoryonline.com/instant-articles/from-one-hell-to-gangster-monk.html" rel="noopener" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">New York</a>-based businessmen, Henry and Murray Garsson. Despite the pair having no prior arms manufacturing knowledge or experience, they sought to financially gain from the US involvement in the conflict by securing munitions contracts from the government.</p><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/AA1lt7Ka" data-image-href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/congressman-andrew-may-caused-the-death-of-800-submarine-crewmen-during-wwii/ar-AA1mdqkP?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=44002f3a7e4b4133f1a7110f1293ddf5&ei=21&fullscreen=true#image=3" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="AA1mdqkP-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1lt7Ka"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="AA1mdqkP-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1lt7Ka"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container " data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="AA1lt7Ka" style="height: 642px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="Andrew May with Henry Stimson, Morris Sheppard and George C. Marshall as President Roosevelt signs the Conscription Bill, 1940. (Photo Credit: Topical Press Agency / Getty Images)" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/congressman-andrew-may-caused-the-death-of-800-submarine-crewmen-during-wwii/ar-AA1mdqkP?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=44002f3a7e4b4133f1a7110f1293ddf5&ei=21&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" target="_self"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><a class="article-image-height-wrapper article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/congressman-andrew-may-caused-the-death-of-800-submarine-crewmen-during-wwii/ar-AA1mdqkP?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=44002f3a7e4b4133f1a7110f1293ddf5&ei=21&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="border-radius: 6px; display: block; height: 570px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;" target="_self"><div style="background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1lt7Ka.img?w=741&h=570&m=6&x=130&y=88&s=471&d=273") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 570px;"></div><img alt="Andrew May with Henry Stimson, Morris Sheppard and George C. Marshall as President Roosevelt signs the Conscription Bill, 1940. (Photo Credit: Topical Press Agency / Getty Images)" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1lt7Ka.img?w=741&h=570&m=6&x=130&y=88&s=471&d=273" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto !important;" title="Andrew May with Henry Stimson, Morris Sheppard and George C. Marshall as President Roosevelt signs the Conscription Bill, 1940. (Photo Credit: Topical Press Agency / Getty Images)" /></a><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container " style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">Andrew May with Henry Stimson, Morris Sheppard and George C. Marshall as President Roosevelt signs the Conscription Bill, 1940. (Photo Credit: Topical Press Agency / Getty Images)</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Provided by War History Online</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">On the pair's behalf, May used his position as chairman of the House Military Affairs Committee to contact Army ordnance and other government officials to obtain war contracts, favors, and draft deferments. For his efforts, he received substantial cash payments, information that was uncovered by a Senate investigating committee following the war.</p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; float: inline-start; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 680px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="AA1mdqkP-intraArticleModule-2"></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">This soon turned into a scandal, which only grew following testimony about the profit-taking of the Garssons' company and the defects in their <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.warhistoryonline.com/instant-articles/munitionettes-the-women-who-built-munitions-during-wwi.html" rel="noopener" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">munitions</a>. It was found their 4.2-inch mortar shells had defective fuzes, leading to premature detonation. It's believed this resulted in the death of 38 American servicemen.</p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Paying for his actions... Maybe?</h2><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The fallout for Andrew May's many guffaws during the war included him losing re-election in 1946. He was then put on trial for federal bribery charges, and after less than two hours of jury deliberation was found guilty on July 3, 1947. Despite efforts to avoid incarceration, he was eventually sentenced to nine months in a federal facility.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Murray and Henry Garsson were also sentenced to prison terms.</p><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/AA1ltePo" data-image-href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/congressman-andrew-may-caused-the-death-of-800-submarine-crewmen-during-wwii/ar-AA1mdqkP?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=44002f3a7e4b4133f1a7110f1293ddf5&ei=21&fullscreen=true#image=4" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="AA1mdqkP-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1ltePo"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="AA1mdqkP-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1ltePo"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container " data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="AA1ltePo" style="height: 571px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="Andrew May with Texas Congressman Maury Maverick, 1938. (Photo Credit: Harris and Ewing / Wikimedia Commons)" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/congressman-andrew-may-caused-the-death-of-800-submarine-crewmen-during-wwii/ar-AA1mdqkP?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=44002f3a7e4b4133f1a7110f1293ddf5&ei=21&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" target="_self"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><a class="article-image-height-wrapper article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/congressman-andrew-may-caused-the-death-of-800-submarine-crewmen-during-wwii/ar-AA1mdqkP?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=44002f3a7e4b4133f1a7110f1293ddf5&ei=21&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="border-radius: 6px; display: block; height: 515px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;" target="_self"><div style="background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1ltePo.img?w=640&h=515&m=6&x=346&y=120&s=52&d=52") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 515px;"></div><img alt="Andrew May with Texas Congressman Maury Maverick, 1938. (Photo Credit: Harris and Ewing / Wikimedia Commons)" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1ltePo.img?w=640&h=515&m=6&x=346&y=120&s=52&d=52" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto !important;" title="Andrew May with Texas Congressman Maury Maverick, 1938. (Photo Credit: Harris and Ewing / Wikimedia Commons)" /></a><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container " style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">Andrew May with Texas Congressman Maury Maverick, 1938. 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He was, however, unable to revive his political career and thus returned to Kentucky to practice law until his death.</p>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-2846390177176052152023-12-29T15:44:00.002-05:002023-12-29T15:44:04.646-05:00Mexican Airport Drama<p> I clipped this from a 3rd party email from work, yes I have been working a lot of hours, I ain't complaining, OT is a good thing, LOL</p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://openlightbox/&source=gmail&ust=1703968879625000&usg=AOvVaw2VHf9mIJknuFjKWG-jQWlv" href="https://openlightbox/" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><b><span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; color: #0056b2; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; text-decoration-line: none;"><img alt="An image of aeroplanes" border="0" class="CToWUd" data-bit="iit" data-image-whitelisted="" height="288" id="m_-2184024642421150187Picture_x0020_3" src="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=63b361b583&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-f:1786521284157004273&th=18caffa47dda59f1&view=fimg&fur=ip&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ_JayFyD63dQ5xZVf2qO4TuQvqhYmITMZ5Tx64mdzgHXYiMYcP8vnI8nRKbN3QENsP5JOWTKoNZcFxKTnHG2B9xFn_2s-tbsIzuK6v18VMpA0TpvPTfVIsvTvk&disp=emb" style="height: 3in; width: 10.4166in;" width="1000" /></span></b><span class="m_-2184024642421150187screen-reader"><b><span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 1pt none windowtext; color: #0056b2; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; padding: 0in; text-decoration-line: none;">Open photo in lightbox</span></b></span></a><strong><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Benito Juárez International Airport</span></strong> is decreasing aircraft movements as the Mexican government tries to coax airlines to shift operations to the new Felipe Ángeles International Airport.<span class="m_-2184024642421150187attribution"><span style="color: #777777;">BOARDING1NOW/ISTOCK</span></span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin-bottom: 0.2in; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Writers of Latin American popular telenovela dramas, similar to soap operas but with more tension and twists, could look to Mexico’s air transport system if they run short of plot ideas. There’s plenty to work with, including a massive new hub airport that was killed well after construction began but before it was completed, and the revival of a defunct airline that will be operated by the military—if it ever gets off the ground.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin-bottom: 0.2in; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">The story began in 2014 when then-President Enrique Peña Nieto announced plans for a massive new mega-hub to replace Mexico City’s constrained, overcrowded and crumbling Benito Juárez International Airport (MEX). The vision for the new Texcoco Airport was for it to serve as a major international connector for Latin America. But in October 2018, well after construction had begun, then-Presidentelect Andrés Manuel López Obrador, popularly known as AMLO, organized a nonbinding referendum in which almost 70% of the 1 million voters rejected the new airport. Texcoco’s cancellation cost was pegged at over $6 billion.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">“When the new government came in, they took [the new airport] as a symbol of corruption and shady interests. And that project needed to be scrapped to get rid of this corruption problem, which was mostly a fabrication,” IATA regional VP Americas Peter Cerdá told ATW.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">López Obrador then converted a former Mexican Air Force Base into a commercial airport, Felipe Ángeles International (NLU), as part of Mexico City’s new three-airport system, including MEX and the much smaller Toluca Airport (TLC). NLU instantly became Mexico’s second-largest airport by territory but is located 30 miles northeast of the center of the city.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">“You build this great airport; however, you almost have it on an island because it is so poorly connected to the city center. You don’t have a train or highway arteries that will connect a city of 27 million passengers,” Cerdá said.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">“The idea of building a new airport in Mexico City is a good idea. They just put the cart before the horse,” said Fabricio Cojuc, an independent aviation consultant and a chief network officer at Mexicana before it went out of business. While Cojuc sees NLU’s potential as an LCC and spillover airport for the megasprawl of the capital, he has doubts. “It’s a big question mark whether people will be willing to spend time and stress to get there when a better-connected MEX serves 99% of the destinations,” he said.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Government-owned and military-operated NLU opened in March 2022 with a smattering of flights and overall numbers remain small. OAG data report just 2,359 flights per month and seven operators. ULCC Viva Aerobus has the largest market share at 41% and is aggressively expanding its presence at NLU while retaining its base at Monterrey Airport (MTY). Aeromexico’s mostly regional jet operation has the second-largest presence at NLU at 33%, followed by ULCC Volaris at 20%. Venezuelan carrier Conviasa, Dominican Republican new ULCC Arajet and Panamanian flag carrier Copa Airlines are the airport’s only non-Mexican operators.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">The Mexican government is taking a carrotbut-mainly-big-stick approach to both coerce and force airlines to make the shift to NLU. It has made landing and facility fees cheaper than those at MEX, where aircraft movements will drop to 43 per hour from January 2024, a more than 30% decrease from the 61 movements an hour allowed as recently as 2022. The government claims the slot cuts are related to airspace restrictions, but IATA notes that a study in 2018 by the same government confirmed the feasibility of safely operating up to 72 movements per hour.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">“The airlines have been able to manage deftly by upgauging their metal. But there’s going to come a point when the cutbacks are so deep that there’s only so much compensation you can do,” Cojuc said.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Latin American and Caribbean airline association ALTA says the slot reduction is detrimental because of “a significant increase in delays and cancellations of flights that were already scheduled and on sale. Furthermore, it is very likely that ticket prices will also increase as the supply of flights in the Valley of Mexico City will be reduced.”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Indeed, some airlines are looking elsewhere.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">“We are reducing capacity in Mexico City International Airport and using that to fortify our USMexico capacity in the short term, away from Mexico City in other markets from Mexico to the US,” Volaris executives announced during their thirdquarter earnings call.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Passenger airlines aren’t the only carriers affected. Cargo operators were given four-month eviction notices in March to move from MEX to NLU, although this was extended to September after intense lobbying. The transition logistics have been a nightmare by many accounts.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">“I can tell you that two months ago, they were trucking freight to Mexico City to clear customs, and then they were bringing it back to [NLU] for distribution,” Cojuc said.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">The government’s strong-arm tactics continued, with it briefly considering allowing cabotage so that international airlines could operate domestically. This was written into the law, but López Obrador’s own party blocked it in Congress. Slot reductions initially also targeted international carriers servicing MEX, but the government relented under pressure from foreign governments, IATA and ALTA.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Another outcome of the MEX slot reductions was that the US Department of Transportation, irked by what it saw as a contravention of the US-Mexico air transport agreement, indefinitely postponed giving approval for a planned antitrust-immunized joint venture between Viva and US ULCC Allegiant Air.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px 0in 6pt;"><b><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 14.5pt;">FAA RATING UPGRADE<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Meanwhile, FAA reinstated Mexico’s Category I safety rating status in September after downgrading it to Category II in May 2021. The rating is always targeted at a country’s aviation regulatory oversight, not the competence of its airlines, but it’s the carriers that bear the consequences because they cannot add new routes or frequencies to the US under Category II rules. The rating downgrade also forbids equipment changes, such as swapping in larger aircraft, and allowing newly delivered aircraft to operate into the US, which is Mexico’s most significant international air market at 85% of traffic.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">“It’s a big irony that Category I was being restored in parallel to the additional cutbacks at Mexico City, which effectively neutralizes the Category I benefits in terms of adding frequency and routes,” Cojuc pointed out. Domestic carriers are being forced to send domestic flights to NLU to open slots at MEX for new US routes they can now begin, such as Aeromexico’s nonstops to Boston and Salt Lake City.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">For all the upheaval, MEX remains Latin America’s busiest airport and the world’s 16th busiest, with 46.2 million passenger enplanements in 2022, and it is poised to remain the number one airport in the largest air traffic country in Latin America. But the lack of investment and renewal will make it increasingly difficult for MEX to keep pace with those numbers.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">“We need urgent focus on improving the infrastructure, the terminals, runways, taxiways—a total overhaul,” Cerdá said.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">“What’s frustrating here is Texcoco Airport was an airport that Mexico needed and was fully supported by the airline industry. We’re being asked as passengers and airlines to pay off the bonds through the user fees for the decommissioning of the airport, which we never wanted to occur.”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Meanwhile, plans announced in mid-December to hike MEX fees by an average of 77% in 2024 were condemned by ALTA and IATA, which warned this would lead to higher fares and put the country’s competitiveness at risk.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px 0in 6pt;"><b><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 14.5pt;">THE MEXICANA SURPRISE<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Another twist in the Mexican aviation telenovela that nobody in the industry saw coming was a government plan to launch an airline under the name of Mexicana, which was spun off as a publicly owned carrier before shutting down in August 2010. In May, the government announced it had purchased the defunct Mexicana for $48 million. The deal includes the brand, three buildings and a flight simulator. And in a populist move, the financial proceeds from the sale would pay the more than 7,000 former employees who lost salaries and benefits when Mexicana was liquidated. In addition, the government said it would invest 233 million pesos ($13.6 million) in the new military-run venture.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Mexicana was envisioned to start as an LCC jointly controlled by Mexico’s army and air force and operating 10 737-800s leased directly from Boeing. There were promises of introductory fares to leading domestic destinations that would be around 20% cheaper than those of competitors, include free seat selection and beverages, and no charge for checked bags up to a certain weight.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://openlightbox/&source=gmail&ust=1703968879625000&usg=AOvVaw2VHf9mIJknuFjKWG-jQWlv" href="https://openlightbox/" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><b><span style="color: #0056b2; text-decoration-line: none;"><img alt="An image of building" border="0" class="CToWUd" data-bit="iit" data-image-whitelisted="" height="665" id="m_-2184024642421150187Picture_x0020_2" src="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=63b361b583&attid=0.2&permmsgid=msg-f:1786521284157004273&th=18caffa47dda59f1&view=fimg&fur=ip&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ-bdsiPu577fcvPVLtk8Uk2tJ5YZ0UBTfBEW-wmlsdrIa2l0cR9IlbtzirJsOuamPfWw9wyfaKbx3K8C5J1i9ZJbQmG5km13w8QWKDCZs4_B9oYWUz8c-X3Icw&disp=emb" style="height: 6.927in; width: 10.4166in;" width="1000" /></span></b><b><span style="border: 1pt none windowtext; color: #0056b2; padding: 0in; text-decoration-line: none;">Open photo in lightbox</span></b></a><b>Viva Aerobus</b> made the first passenger flight into Felipe Ángeles International Airport on March 21, 2022. <span style="color: #777777;">HECTOR VIVAS/GETTY IMAGES</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">With a planned Dec. 1 launch date, the government also said Mexicana would carry 8 million passengers and take a 6% market share during its first full year of operations, while breaking even financially by the end of 2025.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">But more confusion than progress has resulted. Ticket sales have started, stopped and then started again, with refunds inexplicably given for delayed services.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">At a press conference in late November, López Obrador said launch would be pushed back, possibly to Dec. 26, saying, “It’s going to fly soon, very soon.” The airline posted a bizarre message on its website saying that anyone who had booked flights to certain cities would receive an email with instructions about how to confirm their reservation. It then listed another set of cities, tickets for which it would send compensation while not being clear if those tickets had been sold.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Aviation Week Intelligence’s fleet data tracking can find no reference to the 737s being delivered and the launch fleet plan appears to have changed at least twice. A deal to wet-lease 50-seat Embraer ERJ-145s wet-leased from TAR Aerolineas seems to have fallen through, with local media reporting the airline would start service with two 737-800s and one -300. There was no confirmation of that or of a firm launch date as of mid-December.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Not surprisingly, people are skeptical. “They don’t have anything: no crews, no planes, no infrastructure, no agreements with the airports they want to fly to,” local aviation specialist María Larriva Sahd said. “They haven’t made any advancements. They’re just announcing things, but they haven’t established the procedures to create an airline.”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">The airline’s leadership team is also raising eyebrows in the industry because it reportedly comprises retired Mexican air force personnel with little-to-no commercial aviation experience. Critical elements and services, including aircraft and flight crew procurement and maintenance services, were outsourced by the Secretariat of National Defense to SAT Aviation Holdings Inc., a little-known USbased company that was previously referred to as Petrus Aviation, according to Mexican business publication El Financiero.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">“We are not sure we understand Mexicana’s rationale. Mexico already has two low-cost airlines that do very well, but it sends a message that prices shouldn’t go up. It’s also a jobs program for the government,” TD Cowen senior airline analyst Helane Becker wrote.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">As Becker notes, Mexicana would directly compete with established Mexican LCC players Viva and Volaris, so the conditions being set for fair competition are being scrutinized even though Mexicana has yet to fly.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">“Volaris has demanded equal treatment by the authorities and is closely monitoring the implementation process for a new entrant,” Volaris president and CEO Enrique Javier Beltranena said during the third-quarter earnings call.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Cojuc made clear the industry’s suspicions. “This is where we have the start of the makings of a very unlevel playing field situation. [Mexicana] is in a position to enjoy multiple biased cost advantages, such as cheaper fuel, landing fees, taxes, and the like, and having preferential treatment in gate allocation and air traffic control,” he said.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">IATA’s Cerdá also noted there could be a backlash if preferential treatment becomes apparent.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">“We are not against new airlines entering the market, but we will certainly be very vocal on unjust treatment towards [existing] Mexican carriers. You’re negatively impacting Mexican companies operating within your country,” he said.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Cerdá added that he and others believe the oversaturated Mexican domestic market is well served, and resources could be better directed. “Instead of focusing on a new airline, let’s focus on fixing the infrastructure,” he said.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px 0in 6pt;"><b><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 14.5pt;">BOOMING MEXICAN RIVIERA<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">With so many questions about how and even why Mexicana is being relaunched, some also point to the carrier’s planned inaugural route from its NLU base to Tulum Felipe Carrillo Puerto International Airport (TCQ), 85 miles south of Cancun and a pet project of the president. TCQ is located in the booming Mexican Rivera tourist zone near Playa del Carmen and is targeted to be Mexicana’s second base. Airlines are flocking to TCQ, which soft-opened on Sept. 21, 2022, and was formally opened on Dec. 1. When the airport opens to international traffic in March 2024, it will see American Airlines, Delta Air Lines, United Airlines and Spirit Airlines start service from their US bases.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Meanwhile, for all the drama, Mexico’s domestic and cross-border US markets are mostly faring well, especially among the ULCCs that account for 71.4% of Mexican domestic capacity, according to OAG data. Market leaders are Volaris (39%) and Viva Aerobus (32.4%), whose business models are predicated on switching people from the bus in a country with no passenger rail links but a strong VFR market. Volaris and Viva also have some of the lowest costs and fares in the world, and, until recently, enjoyed very high operating margins. Both ULCCs are ratcheting down domestic capacity. The reduction could help raise yields while “purging their route network networks a little bit, mowing down the bad grass in certain markets where there’s overcapacity,” Cojuc said.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0px;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://openlightbox/&source=gmail&ust=1703968879625000&usg=AOvVaw2VHf9mIJknuFjKWG-jQWlv" href="https://openlightbox/" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><b><span style="color: #0056b2; text-decoration-line: none;"><img alt="An image of peoples" border="0" class="CToWUd" data-bit="iit" data-image-whitelisted="" height="579" id="m_-2184024642421150187Picture_x0020_1" src="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=63b361b583&attid=0.3&permmsgid=msg-f:1786521284157004273&th=18caffa47dda59f1&view=fimg&fur=ip&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ-iMqFpiaZOE2C0LmeBjntKVSYeGvnKP1acfNrbwOd-6bjyKfAfRoeN7J-rQdBS_FcmILsXKZFpRkGhDZBxV_EcBrZFj8Luerox0hVQmeoYtLmJ9wguobq_z9s&disp=emb" style="height: 6.0312in; width: 9.9479in;" width="955" /></span></b><b><span style="border: 1pt none windowtext; color: #0056b2; padding: 0in; text-decoration-line: none;">Open photo in lightbox</span></b></a>Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador oversaw the Dec. 1 opening of <b>Tulum Felipe Carrillo Puerto International Airport,</b> which has attracted many carriers, including American Airlines, Delta Air Lines, United Airlines and Spirit Airlines. <span style="color: #777777;">MEDIOS Y MEDIA/GETTY IMAGES</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Legacy network airline Aeromexico, which delisted itself from Mexico’s main stock exchange and went private following its emergence from Chapter 11 bankruptcy in March 2022, is poised to return to public markets. With FAA Category I status restored, the nation’s largest international player, along with its Delta joint-venture partner, is rapidly growing in the US transborder market, with a joint 19% share closing in on market leader American’s 21% share.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Though Delta’s post-Chapter 11 ownership in Aeromexico, a fellow SkyTeam alliance member, has decreased from 49% to 20%, Delta president Glen Hauenstein says the Mexican market represents “a great source of strength.” Transborder capacity in December 2023 will be 14.8% higher than in December 2022 and 35% higher than in December 2019, according to OAG.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">“The Category I recovery is already allowing Mexican carriers to add capacity in the transborder market, as evidenced by a 15% YoY published seat increase in Q1 2024,” Cojuc said.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">VFR dominates Mexican carrier’s US-bound traffic, while leisure sun-and-sand travel powers Mexico-bound traffic. Mexican carriers are shifting capacity from the saturated domestic markets internationally to meet pent-up demand for international expansion. OAG filings show 22 new US-Mexico routes are confirmed for 2024. This could flip the domestic versus international yield dynamics.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">“We expect yield improvement in the domestic market as capacity moves north into the US market, where we expect yields to decline. We think there will be overcapacity in the Mexico-US market,” TD Cowen’s Becker noted.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px 0px 0.2in;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Just how all this transpires through 2024, however, will at least partially hinge on Mexican politics. So many of the swings and changes in the country’s air transport industry over recent years have been connected to politics and 2024 will see a presidential election in June. López Obrador is term-limited, but in another crowd-pleasing move meant to rally his base, his government is looking to reduce privately operated airport usage fees by 8%-12%. In addition to the lower usage fees, Mexico’s transportation ministry has said it will almost double what it charges operators for concessions to run the airports. Airlines say the move could stimulate demand via lower rates but will be a neutral pass-through on profitability. Opponents say it only hurts the potential for investing in badly needed infrastructure upgrades and expansions, and they point out that government-controlled airports aren’t subject initially to the same fee decreases.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 21.6pt; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Open Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Another chapter in the Mexican aviation telenovela seems poised to play out.</span></p>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1444550425694584077.post-7178934705809477452023-12-26T04:00:00.001-05:002023-12-26T04:00:00.137-05:00The 12 Oldest War Vehicles still in Service.<p><br /></p><p><br /></p><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/AA1fT953" data-image-href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=1" data-is-first="true" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fT953"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container " data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="AA1fT953" style="height: 487px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a class="article-image-height-wrapper article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="border-radius: 6px; display: block; height: 431px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;" target="_self"><img alt="A MiG-17 in flight" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fT953.img?w=768&h=431&m=6" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto !important;" title="A MiG-17 in flight" /></a><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container " style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">A MiG-17 in flight</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Kletr/Shutterstock</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;"><span class="dropcap-element-slot" style="float: left; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 64px; line-height: 52px; margin-inline-end: 8px;">M</span></p><p><span style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;">ilitary spending can amount to hundreds of billions of dollars annually as new technologies are sought, and systems are updated to ensure the world's best fighting forces stay one step ahead of their competition. However, those countries that lack spending power often resort to tried and true technology from previous generations. In some cases, this means using relatively antiquated vehicles that, in some instances, call[ back to the Cold War or even World War II.</span> </p><p class="continue-read-break" data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px; opacity: 1; position: static;">While, on the face of it, this may sound desperate or even downright dangerous, military technology is by its nature highly robust, and some examples, such as the Tupolev TU-95 long-range bomber or the Boeing CH-47 Chinook helicopter, have not as yet required replacing. Some older designs, such as the Lockheed C-130 Hercules transport plane and the Type 209 submarine, have received regular updates to keep them consistent with modern military requirements.<slot name="cont-read-break"></slot></p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">For this article, we have chosen vehicles that remain in fighting forces today. For example, some individual ships and submarines are still used as training vessels or for reconnaissance purposes. These include the USS Constitution, a square-rigger sailing frigate from 1797, and the last remaining Hai Shi Class submarine from 1944, which are still technically in service with the United States and Taiwanese navies, respectively, but pose no significant military threat. The following are the oldest war vehicles that are still in active service today.</p><p class="" data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Read more: <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.slashgear.com/1229697/most-impressive-supersonic-bombers-of-all-time/?zsource=msnsyndicated" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">10 Most Impressive Supersonic Bombers Of All Time</a></p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Sikorsky Black Hawk</h2><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/AA1fSYkG" data-image-href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fSYkG"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fSYkG"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container " data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="AA1fSYkG" style="height: 487px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="A Sikorsky Black Hawk" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" target="_self"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><a class="article-image-height-wrapper article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="border-radius: 6px; display: block; height: 431px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;" target="_self"><div style="background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fSYkG.img?w=768&h=431&m=6") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 431px;"></div><img alt="A Sikorsky Black Hawk" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fSYkG.img?w=768&h=431&m=6" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto !important;" title="A Sikorsky Black Hawk" /></a><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container " style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">A Sikorsky Black Hawk</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Soos Jozsef/Shutterstock</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Many of us remember the Black Hawk helicopter as the subject of Ridley Scott's 2001 film "Black Hawk Down," based on a novel of the same name. However, that near-disastrous mission into Somalia in 1993 is just one episode in the long and storied history of this multipurpose helicopter, which has been in service since 1979.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The Black Hawk is a medium-lift helicopter crewed by four, usually consisting of a pilot, co-pilot, and crew chiefs. It can also carry 11 troops or six stretcher patients plus medical attendants, as well as various combinations of personnel and cargo, making it a highly versatile and valuable vehicle. It cruises at an average speed of 174 miles per hour, with a top speed of 222 mph, making it one of the world's fastest helicopters. It also has a range of more than 350 miles, but it can go longer thanks to external fuel tanks.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">In over 40 years since the Black Hawk first entered service, it has been used for casualty evacuation, combat assault, aerial firefighting, search and rescue, and special operations. It can be armed with rockets, guns, and missiles. There are currently over 4,000 units in operation worldwide, of which more than 2,000 are used by the United States, and the Black Hawk shows no sign of retiring any time soon.</p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Type 209</h2><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/AA1fSYkH" data-image-href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=3" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fSYkH"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fSYkH"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container " data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="AA1fSYkH" style="height: 487px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="A Type 209 submarine" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" target="_self"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><a class="article-image-height-wrapper article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="border-radius: 6px; display: block; height: 431px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;" target="_self"><div style="background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fSYkH.img?w=768&h=431&m=6") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 431px;"></div><img alt="A Type 209 submarine" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fSYkH.img?w=768&h=431&m=6" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto !important;" title="A Type 209 submarine" /></a><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container " style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">A Type 209 submarine</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Archaeonavall/Shutterstock</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Germany is known for many exports, including pharmaceuticals, consumer electronics, luxury automobiles, and ... Albert Einstein. Diesel-electric attack submarines are not usually included in this list, yet the Type 209 is success story of a military vehicle created exclusively for sale to other countries.These vessels have been sold to 12 navies, as aging World War II and Cold War-era submarines have gradually required replacing. Germany, spotting this looming gap in the market, was quick to respond with this robust and versatile submarine, although, curiously, it doesn't operate any itself.</p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; float: inline-start; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 680px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="AA1fSYl2-intraArticleModule-2"></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">While specifications vary due to the adaptable nature of the Type 209, it is crewed by roughly 40 people and has a submerged displacement of between 1,200 tons. All use diesel-electric propulsion, which provides a surfaced speed of around 11 knots and a submerged speed of around 22 knots. It can dive to a maximum of 500 meters and has a range of about 430 miles when submerged.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Five variants of Type 209 exist in various militaries, from South America to the Mediterranean, to South Africa, to Asia, as evidence of the versatility and adaptability of the original vessel. Modifications can include an increased air supply, escape hatches, taller masts, overhauled engines and systems, and even an increase in length. While each country assigns its own class names to the submarine, they are all unmistakably the Type 209, based on the original German design and incorporating the European nation's renowned technological prowess and build quality.</p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Victor Class</h2><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/AA1fT0KJ" data-image-href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=4" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fT0KJ"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fT0KJ"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container " data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="AA1fT0KJ" style="height: 487px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="A Victor Class submarine" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" target="_self"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><a class="article-image-height-wrapper article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="border-radius: 6px; display: block; height: 431px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;" target="_self"><div style="background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fT0KJ.img?w=768&h=431&m=6") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 431px;"></div><img alt="A Victor Class submarine" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fT0KJ.img?w=768&h=431&m=6" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto !important;" title="A Victor Class submarine" /></a><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container " style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">A Victor Class submarine</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Sergei Fokin/Shutterstock</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Predating the Type 209 is the Victor Class submarine, which is still operational in its native Russia, where it was first commissioned in 1967. Codenamed "Project 671", it is one of the earliest nuclear-powered attack submarines, which produced two quieter versions, the Victor II and Victor III, in later years, the latter of which is still in service today. This remnant of the Cold War was the Soviets' answer to the U.S. Sturgeon Class sub, and it is characterized by its teardrop-shaped hull and the large sonar pod on its stern plane.</p><div class="intra-article-module" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; float: inline-start; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; position: relative; width: 680px; z-index: 97;"><slot name="AA1fSYl2-intraArticleModule-3"></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The Victor Class submarine is a worrying reminder of just how dangerous the post-World War II global situation had become, as nations equipped their aircraft and submarines with nuclear warheads in preparation for the outbreak of all-out war. The <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.slashgear.com/1332867/oldest-military-submarines-still-in-service/" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">Victor Class</a> was one such vessel that carried two 200-kiloton Novator torpedoes or two S-10 Granat cruise missiles, each capable of devastating an entire city. They were also powered by a nuclear reactor, which drove a steam turbine, providing 22.7 megawatts of power to a single propeller shaft as a highly efficient, albeit risky, energy source.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Thankfully no boats ever suffered any severe damage during their long tenure, and the Victor Class has gradually been retired, with the first Victor III subs being taken out of service in 1998. Just two, the "Tambov" and "Obinsk," remain operational and are used by the Russian Navy as testing vehicles for new weapons and other technology.</p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Boeing CH-47 Chinook</h2><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/AA1fSYkM" data-image-href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=5" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fSYkM"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fSYkM"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container " data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="AA1fSYkM" style="height: 487px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="A Boeing CH-47 Chinook" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" target="_self"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><a class="article-image-height-wrapper article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="border-radius: 6px; display: block; height: 431px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;" target="_self"><div style="background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fSYkM.img?w=768&h=431&m=6") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 431px;"></div><img alt="A Boeing CH-47 Chinook" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fSYkM.img?w=768&h=431&m=6" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto !important;" title="A Boeing CH-47 Chinook" /></a><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container " style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">A Boeing CH-47 Chinook</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Tomohiro Ohsumi/Getty Images</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The Boeing CH-47 Chinook is one of the most recognizable helicopters in history, with its dual rotors and bulbous profile. Its versatility as a medium to heavy-lift vehicle and consistent updates have ensured that the design will remain in service until at least 2060, and the latest CH-47 boasts advanced technological features to rival any of its modern equivalents.</p><div class="intra-article-module-bottom-slot" data-t="{"n":"intraArticle","t":13}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; float: inline-start; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; width: 680px;"><slot name="AA1fSYl2-bottom-intraArticleModule"></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">This versatility is evidenced by the fact that the Chinook is operational with many militaries across the globe, as diverse as Great Britain, Australia, Canada, Egypt, and the Netherlands, as well as its native United States. Having first entered service in 1962, it has been used in Vietnam, the Iran-Iraq conflict, the Falklands War, and Afghanistan. It features two powerful gas turbine engines, capable of lifting up to 24,000 pounds, and has many new advanced capabilities that maintain its usefulness in modern military practice.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">These include a digital cockpit management system, autopilot functionality, a digital flight control system with hover and landing assists, and advanced cargo capabilities. The <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.slashgear.com/1357901/oldest-military-helicopters-still-in-service-today/" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">CH-47 Chinook</a> embodies the term, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." However, the modern machine is highly sophisticated compared to the original vehicle from over 60 years ago.</p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Lockheed C-130 Hercules</h2><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/AA1fSYkN" data-image-href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=6" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fSYkN"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fSYkN"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container " data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="AA1fSYkN" style="height: 487px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="A C-130 Hercules" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" target="_self"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><a class="article-image-height-wrapper article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="border-radius: 6px; display: block; height: 431px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;" target="_self"><div style="background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fSYkN.img?w=768&h=431&m=6") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 431px;"></div><img alt="A C-130 Hercules" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fSYkN.img?w=768&h=431&m=6" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto !important;" title="A C-130 Hercules" /></a><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container " style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">A C-130 Hercules</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Paul Hanley/Getty Images</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The Lockheed C-130 Hercules could be called the fixed-wing transport plane's answer to the Chinook helicopter, as a tried-and-true design that hasn't needed replacing since entering military service in 1956. This reliable, versatile workhorse is capable of transporting large payloads from runways that are high in altitude and poorly surfaced. The latest C-130J iteration is used by 21 countries, with other variants employed by tens more nations worldwide.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Built by Lockheed-Martin, the modern Hercules is impressive for a plane with such a long service history. It has four Rolls-Royce turboprop engines producing 4,700 hp each. It will fly at a top speed of 417 miles per hour at an altitude of 22,000 feet, but it can climb to a ceiling of 28,000 feet while carrying its maximum 42,000-pound payload. It is large at almost 98 feet in length and 39 feet tall, with a wingspan of 133 feet.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The Hercules is as powerful as its name suggests, but it is also versatile and used for many different roles, including meteorological services, medical operations, disaster relief, and firefighting duties, as well as airlift support. It is also large and can carry all sorts of cargo, including other helicopters, armored vehicles, palleted goods, and personnel. Given that a larger version, the C-130J-30 "Super Hercules," is also in production, it looks likely that the Hercules will be flying for many years to come.</p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Tupolev TU-95</h2><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/AA1fSYkO" data-image-href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=7" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fSYkO"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fSYkO"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container " data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="AA1fSYkO" style="height: 487px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="A Tupolev TU-95" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" target="_self"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><a class="article-image-height-wrapper article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="border-radius: 6px; display: block; height: 431px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;" target="_self"><div style="background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fSYkO.img?w=768&h=431&m=6") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 431px;"></div><img alt="A Tupolev TU-95" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fSYkO.img?w=768&h=431&m=6" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto !important;" title="A Tupolev TU-95" /></a><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container " style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">A Tupolev TU-95</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Sharkovski/Shutterstock</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">During World War II, three Boeing B-29 Superfortresses were forced to land on Soviet territory and duly appropriated by the Russians. From these, they created their own almost-carbon-copy prototypes, the Tupolev TU-80 and TU-85, which evolved into the Tupolev TU-95. Codenamed "The Bear" by NATO, this long-range bomber was Russia's answer to the B-52, and it entered service in 1956.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Like the B-52, the TU-95 is a formidable and sizable machine capable of carrying a nuclear payload. It underwent several different redesigns for various military applications, including flight training, reconnaissance, and transport duties, as a launcher for hypersonic aircraft, and for recovering space modules for Russia's cosmonaut program. Few aircraft can claim to have had such a storied career as the TU-95.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">A lot has happened since 1956. The Cold War that created a requirement for the TU-95 has long passed, and Russia has been involved in many other conflicts. Despite still being in use, this aircraft may be showing its wear. After <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://theaviationist.com/2015/06/09/tu-95-incident-at-ukrainka/" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">two accidents</a>, they were briefly grounded in 2015.</p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Boeing B-52 Stratofortress</h2><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/AA1fT4g6" data-image-href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=8" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fT4g6"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fT4g6"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container " data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="AA1fT4g6" style="height: 487px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="A B-52 Stratofortress" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" target="_self"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><a class="article-image-height-wrapper article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="border-radius: 6px; display: block; height: 431px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;" target="_self"><div style="background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fT4g6.img?w=768&h=431&m=6") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 431px;"></div><img alt="A B-52 Stratofortress" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fT4g6.img?w=768&h=431&m=6" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto !important;" title="A B-52 Stratofortress" /></a><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container " style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">A B-52 Stratofortress</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Allenjmsmith/Getty Images</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Boeing and the U.S. military have enjoyed a successful partnership dating back to World War I when the company first trained flight instructors for the Army. Since then, it has won many contracts to produce military aircraft for various purposes. These include tactical fighter aircraft, helicopters, transport planes, reconnaissance planes, uncrewed combat planes, and long-range bombers, such as the B-17 Flying Fortress, the B-29 Superfortress, and the <a data-t="{"n":"destination","t":13,"b":1,"c.t":7}" href="https://www.slashgear.com/1315251/oldest-aircraft-still-in-service/" style="text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">B-52 Stratofortress</a>.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The specifications of the B-52 are impressive, to say the least. It is so large that it requires a unique set of skills and specially designed landing gear to attempt a takeoff and landing. It has eight Pratt and Whitney turbofan engines, each providing around 17,000 pounds of thrust. It has a colossal 185-foot wingspan, is 159 feet long, can fly at a maximum speed of 650 miles per hour, and has a range of 8,800 miles. Despite its vastness, the modern B-52 requires a crew of just five to operate, including its commander, pilot, navigator, electronic warfare officer, and radar operator.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">This now-legendary bomber is still operational in its native United States, having been in service since 1952. It is yet another testament to the enduring design qualities of some post-war military aircraft that finds them still eminently usable over a half-century later. Originally intended as a high-altitude bomber, its new primary function is to provide the United States with an immediate global strike capability for nuclear and non-nuclear precision weapons. Modern machines offer a maximum payload of 70,000 pounds, which will soon be upgraded by approximately 50%, making this aircraft unrivaled within its segment. As such, the B-52 is expected to remain in service until well after 2040.</p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-17</h2><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/AA1fST3g" data-image-href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=9" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fST3g"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fST3g"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container " data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="AA1fST3g" style="height: 487px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="A Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-17" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" target="_self"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><a class="article-image-height-wrapper article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="border-radius: 6px; display: block; height: 431px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;" target="_self"><div style="background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fST3g.img?w=768&h=431&m=6") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 431px;"></div><img alt="A Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-17" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fST3g.img?w=768&h=431&m=6" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto !important;" title="A Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-17" /></a><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container " style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">A Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-17</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© BlueBarronPhoto/Shutterstock</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Codenamed "Fresco" by NATO, the Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-17 has had an eventful history, having served in more than 20 military forces since production began in 1951. It is notable for its snub-nosed profile, with its tapered afterburner to the rear that gives it a cigar-shaped silhouette.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Its predecessor, the MiG-15, served successfully in the Korean War, and this updated jet was more agile, with an extended fuselage and more acutely-angled wings. Its armament includes three cannons and 16 rockets, and it can reach speeds of up to 711 miles per hour.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The MiG-17's first major conflic t was the Vietnam War, as flown by the North Vietnamese Air Force, where it was dubbed the "Silver Swallow" and pitted against the F-105s and F-4s of the United States. While not as maneuverable, these had the speed advantage over the MiG, ultimately downing 105 of the aircraft throughout the conflict.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Having been built in its native Russia, as well as Poland, China, and Czechoslovakia, more than 9,000 units were produced in the short time before discontinuation in 1958. While it is something of a relic today, this aging high-subsonic fighter jet is still operational with the military of Tanzania.</p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">M47 Patton</h2><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/AA1fT1Vc" data-image-href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=10" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fT1Vc"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fT1Vc"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container " data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="AA1fT1Vc" style="height: 487px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="An M47 Patton tank" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" target="_self"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><a class="article-image-height-wrapper article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="border-radius: 6px; display: block; height: 431px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;" target="_self"><div style="background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fT1Vc.img?w=768&h=431&m=6") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 431px;"></div><img alt="An M47 Patton tank" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fT1Vc.img?w=768&h=431&m=6" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto !important;" title="An M47 Patton tank" /></a><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container " style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">An M47 Patton tank</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Mtcurado/Getty Images</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">After World War II, the U.S. military saw a requirement to update the Patton, Pershing, and Sherman tanks used throughout the conflict. The result was the M47 Patton unit, which was commissioned in 1950 and named after the legendary General George S. Patton, who had died five years previously.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The M47 Patton was expectedly robust, with four-inch armor plating, and powerful with its twin-turbo V12 engine that produced 810 horsepower. With a top speed of 37 miles per hour, it was a whole seven miles per hour faster than its predecessor, the M46 Patton, and it was well-armed, with its 90-millimeter cannon and dual 30 and 50-caliber machine guns with anti-aircraft capabilities.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">While the M47 Patton tank was still in its early years of production, the United States was already working on its successor, the M48, which was far superior in many ways and entered service in 1953. Having only been active with its native U.S. military for around a decade, the unit was later adopted by various countries, including South Korea, Turkey, Yugoslavia, Spain, and Pakistan, and a modernized version is currently operational with the Iranian army.</p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">T-54/T-55</h2><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/AA1fSYkU" data-image-href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=11" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fSYkU"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fSYkU"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container " data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="AA1fSYkU" style="height: 487px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="A T-54 tank" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" target="_self"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><a class="article-image-height-wrapper article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="border-radius: 6px; display: block; height: 431px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;" target="_self"><div style="background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fSYkU.img?w=768&h=431&m=6") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 431px;"></div><img alt="A T-54 tank" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fSYkU.img?w=768&h=431&m=6" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto !important;" title="A T-54 tank" /></a><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container " style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">A T-54 tank</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Brandon Fike/Shutterstock</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">As the successor to the legendary World War II-era T-34 tank, the T-54 had some big shoes to fill. Its prototype was developed in 1946, immediately after the war, and it entered production in 1947. Along with its sibling, the modified T-55, they are among the most widely-used tanks in history, having been manufactured until 1981. they went on to serve in the Arab-Israeli War and the Vietnam War and saw action in Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Africa.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The T-54 has a 100-millimeter main cannon, a 7.62-millimeter turret-mounted machine gun, and a 520-horsepower V12 engine. Notable additions on the T-55 include a snorkel that allows it to ford depths of over five meters, additional armor, engine upgrades, an anti-radiation lining, and radiation detection equipment, the latter a reflection of the looming threat of the Cold War at the time of production.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Given its vintage status, you'd be forgiven for thinking that the T-54 would have been retired by now. However, it is still operational with multiple militaries, including those of Afghanistan, Cuba, Ethiopia, Iraq, and Nigeria. Lately, Russia has also had to put many units back into service as artillery on the Ukrainian front line, as its tank force has been depleted by as many as 150 units per month.</p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">M3 Stuart</h2><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/AA1fT4gb" data-image-href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=12" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fT4gb"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fT4gb"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container " data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="AA1fT4gb" style="height: 487px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="An M3 Stuart tank" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" target="_self"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><a class="article-image-height-wrapper article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="border-radius: 6px; display: block; height: 431px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;" target="_self"><div style="background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fT4gb.img?w=768&h=431&m=6") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 431px;"></div><img alt="An M3 Stuart tank" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fT4gb.img?w=768&h=431&m=6" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto !important;" title="An M3 Stuart tank" /></a><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container " style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">An M3 Stuart tank</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Roberto Galan/Shutterstock</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Before entering World War II, the U.S. offered the Allies a helping hand by way of lend-lease equipment, which included the M3 Stuart tank. The British debuted these in the North Africa Campaign under Gen. Bernard "Monty" Montgomery and were admired for their reliability, speed, and robust build.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">While the M3 Stuart tanks were hardy little units, they were no match for the German Panzer tanks, and their high turrets stood out, making them vulnerable to attack. They featured armor of up to 1 1/2 inches thick and up to four machine guns in addition to the main 37-millimeter anti-tank gun.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The M3 Stuart tank was manufactured in large numbers by the American Car and Foundry Company, and many variants were produced, including turretless configurations that were used as personnel carriers and the ominously-named "Satan" that incorporated a flame thrower. It is still operational as a training vehicle with the Paraguay military, having been in service since 1941.</p><h2 class="article-sub-heading" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Eb Garamond"; font-size: 30px; font-weight: 500; line-height: 38px; margin-bottom: 24px; margin-top: 48px; position: relative;">T-34</h2><div class="article-image-slot image-slot-placeholder" data-doc-id="cms/api/amp/image/AA1fT4gc" data-image-href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=13" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px;"><slot name="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fT4gc"><div class="article-image-slot" slot="AA1fSYl2-image-cms/api/amp/image/AA1fT4gc"><msn-article-image :target="" style="background-color: var(--fill-color); color: var(--neutral-foreground-rest);"><div class="article-image-container " data-t="{"n":"OpenModal","t":13}" data-test-id="AA1fT4gc" style="height: 487px; margin: 0px 0px 36px; position: relative; width: 680px;"><a aria-label="A T-34 tank" class="image_switchModeLinkContainer" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="position: absolute; right: 16px; top: 16px; z-index: 1;" target="_self"><img alt="Fullscreen button" aria-hidden="true" src="https://assets.msn.com/staticsb/statics/latest/views/icons/ArticleImageFullscreen.svg" /></a><a class="article-image-height-wrapper article-image-height-wrapper-new" data-t="{"n":"destination","t":14,"b":1,"c.t":14}" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-12-oldest-war-vehicles-still-being-used-today/ar-AA1fSYl2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=185e7190f9d04bf0baefc3148be9c940&ei=56&fullscreen=true#image=2" style="border-radius: 6px; display: block; height: 431px; object-fit: cover; overflow: hidden; position: relative; width: inherit;" target="_self"><div style="background: url("https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fT4gc.img?w=768&h=431&m=6") center center / cover no-repeat; filter: blur(90px); height: 431px;"></div><img alt="A T-34 tank" class="article-image article-image-ux-impr article-image-new" loading="eager" src="https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1fT4gc.img?w=768&h=431&m=6" style="background: rgb(242, 242, 242); border-radius: 6px; bottom: 0px; left: 340px; max-width: 100%; object-fit: contain; position: absolute; top: 0px; transform: translateX(-50%); vertical-align: middle; width: auto !important;" title="A T-34 tank" /></a><div class="image-caption-container image-caption-container-ux-impr articlewc-image-caption-container " style="display: flex; flex-flow: column; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; padding: 12px 16px 8px 24px;"><span class="image-caption">A T-34 tank</span><span class="image-attribution image-attribution-ux-impr" style="opacity: 0.65; padding-bottom: 4px;">© Jaroslav Moravcik/Shutterstock</span></div></div></msn-article-image></div></slot></div><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Developed in the late 1930s, the T-34 was instrumental in Russia's success on the Eastern Front, ultimately helping to turn the tide of World War II in the Allies' favor. The combination of its mobility, rugged build, and firepower made it a formidable opponent for German tanks like the notorious Panzer units. It was produced in factories in Kharkiv and Stalingrad, the latter becoming the main theater where it would prove its value as a formidable fighting machine.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">Throughout the war, the T-34 underwent various modifications and improvements to its design, resulting in different models and variants. There were changes to its armor thickness, engine upgrades, and turret design, but its principal features remained the same. These included the powerful 7.62-millimeter main gun, wide tracks that allowed for improved weight distribution and off-road mobility, and its sloped armor, which proved effective in deflecting enemy shells.</p><p data-t="{"n":"blueLinks"}" style="background-color: white; color: #2b2b2b; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Midlevel", sans-serif; font-size: 17px; margin: 0px 0px 16px;">The T-34 is still in service today, a testament to the legacy and robust nature of this World War II relic, which was highly influential in modern tank development. It remains a valuable asset to the armies of North Korea, Laos, Vietnam, Yemen, and Guinea, among others.</p>MrGarabaldihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.com2