The Palestinian "Nakba" is a hoax

 I had gotten into arguments with idjits on farcebooks with they claiming that the Jews forcing the Palestinians to leave so they could steal their land.  I told them time and again, "No, they left on their own because they didn't want to be in the way when the Arab armies invaded to crush the newly formed Israeli state".

   Dude named Scott Steward wrote this.

The “Palestinian Nakba” is a hoax and here is the proof.

“The Nakba” is fake Arab propaganda.

The so-called “Palestinians” were not forced out of Israel by the Jews in 1948. They left voluntarily and at the instruction of Arab leaders so that the combined armies of five Arab countries could sweep in and murder all the Jews on the very first day of Israel’s existence. Today’s “Palestinians” are descendants of those who abandoned Israel and went to the sidelines expecting to return and pick the bones of dead Jews and steal their property, homes, and businesses.

Except the Jews won. Oops! Israel won that war. And overcame every Arab genocidal attack since.

The “Palestinians” sided with the losers, and have NO RIGHTS to return and no claim to any part of Israel. Today’s “Palestinians” are the descendants of those who betrayed and abandoned their Jewish hosts, who gave them homes and jobs on the kibbutzes the Jews created, and who lurked like hyenas to scavenge the property of the Jews after the Arab armies committed genocide.

Here is the contemporaneous proof:

Jamal Husseini, the chairman of the Palestine Higher Committee, told the UN Security Council that instead of accepting the Haganah's truce offer, the Arabs "preferred to abandon their homes, their belongings, and everything they possessed in the world and leave the town.

The U.S. Consul-General in Haifa, Aubrey Lippincott, wrote on April 22, 1948, for example, that "local mufti-dominated Arab leaders" were urging "all Arabs to leave the city, and large numbers did so.

Time's report of the battle for Haifa (May 3, 1948): "The mass evacuation, prompted partly by fear, partly by orders of Arab leaders, left the Arab quarter of Haifa a ghost city....By withdrawing Arab workers their leaders hoped to paralyze Haifa."

The Arab National Committee in Jerusalem, following the March 8, 1948, instructions of the Arab Higher Committee, ordered women, children and the elderly in various parts of Jerusalem to leave their homes: "Any opposition to this order...is an obstacle to the holy war...and will hamper the operations of the fighters in these districts" (Middle Eastern Studies, January 1986).

Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Said, who declared: "We will smash the country with our guns and obliterate every place the Jews seek shelter in. The Arabs should conduct their wives and children to safe areas until the fighting has died down."24

The Secretary of the Arab League Office in London, Edward Atiyah, wrote in his book, The Arabs: "This wholesale exodus was due partly to the belief of the Arabs, encouraged by the boastings of an unrealistic Arabic press and the irresponsible utterances of some of the Arab leaders that it could be only a matter of weeks before the Jews were defeated by the armies of the Arab States and the Palestinian Arabs enabled to re-enter and retake possession of their country.

In his memoirs, Haled al Azm, the Syrian Prime Minister in 1948-49, also admitted the Arab role in persuading the refugees to leave: “Since 1948 we have been demanding the return of the refugees to their homes. But we ourselves are the ones who encouraged them to leave. Only a few months separated our call to them to leave and our appeal to the United Nations to resolve on their return.”

"The refugees were confident their absence would not last long, and that they would return within a week or two," Monsignor George Hakim, a Greek Orthodox Catholic Bishop of Galilee told the Beirut newspaper, Sada al-Janub(August 16, 1948). "Their leaders had promised them that the Arab Armies would crush the 'Zionist gangs' very quickly and that there was no need for panic or fear of a long exile."

On April 3, 1949, the Near East Broadcasting Station (Cyprus) said: "It must not be forgotten that the Arab Higher Committee encouraged the refugees' flight from their homes in Jaffa, Haifa and Jerusalem."

"The Arab States encouraged the Palestine Arabs to leave their homes temporarily in order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion armies," according to the Jordanian newspaper Filastin (February 19, 1949).

One refugee quoted in the Jordan newspaper, Ad Difaa (September 6, 1954), said: "The Arab government told us: Get out so that we can get in. So we got out, but they did not get in."

"The Secretary-General of the Arab League, Azzam Pasha, assured the Arab peoples that the occupation of Palestine and Tel Aviv would be as simple as a military promenade," said Habib Issa in the New York Lebanese paper, Al Hoda (June 8, 1951). "He pointed out that they were already on the frontiers and that all the millions the Jews had spent on land and economic development would be easy booty, for it would be a simple matter to throw Jews into the Mediterranean....Brotherly advice was given to the Arabs of Palestine to leave their land, homes and property and to stay temporarily in neighboring fraternal states, lest the guns of the invading Arab armies mow them down."

Below is a 1948 photograph of Arabs abandoning Israel. Notice, there are no Israelis forcing the Arabs to leave. They are choosing to abandon Israel, so that their armies can commit genocide.

Those who start war, abandon territory, and then lose the war they started have no rights or claims to anything.

The Navy may keep the Nimitz Class of Carriers in Service longer.

 I snagged this from the 3rd party email, yeah I'm an Army guy that happens to know a bit about Navy stuff, especially Carriers.  I still think they need to go back to naming them for battles, and not politicians.  I am glad to see the Enterprise coming back though.

The first-in-class USS Gerald Ford carrier (foreground) operated alongside the Nimitz-class USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (at right) in October amid high tensions in the Middle East.

Credit: Petty Officer 3rd Class Janae Chambers/U.S. Navy

The U.S. Navy’s Nimitz-class carriers are about to turn 50. But given the demand for the carrier air wing and delays to the Nimitz-class replacement—the Ford-class—the USS Nimitz (CVN 68) itself is unlikely to retire as soon as expected.

The Navy’s fiscal 2023 budget has already called to extend the first-in-class CVN 68, commissioned in 1975, for another deployment cycle instead of decommissioning it in 2025 as previously planned. Service officials say the upcoming budget request could include a final decision on extending the next in the class, the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower, beyond its 2027 projected end-of-service date—though extending just that ship likely will not be enough.

“Extending Nimitz, extending Ike, it’s going to happen for every Nimitz-class carrier. At least one extension,” Vice Adm. Kenneth Whitesell, then-commander of Naval Air Forces, said during an Aug. 25 discussion at the Tailhook Symposium shortly before retiring from the service.

• USS Nimitz extended, Eisenhower likely to follow
• The service seeks Ford-class advanced procurement change
• Repeated extensions could worsen strike fighter deficit

The future of the Nimitz class and oversight of ongoing issues facing production of the second Ford-class carrier, the USS John F. Kennedy, was a focal point of the discussion at the symposium. The Navy’s current plan for the Nimitz calls for $200 million for extension work as part of a 5.5-month maintenance schedule, according to a March 2023 report to Congress.

“Carriers are the linchpin of everything we do in naval aviation,” Director of Air Warfare Division N98 Rear Adm. Michael Donnelly said. “Our requirements are designed and aligned within our air wings to provide the capability out to the [combatant commands] for our ability to conduct the mission. Our ability to get the carriers out on time, whether it is new procurement or maintenance, is essential.”

The first-in-class USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78) is now deployed to the Mediterranean, about two years after it achieved initial operational capability. The Ford was extensively delayed and over budget, commissioning five years before the deployment and 15 years after its naming. Originally projected to cost $10.5 billion, the ship ended up costing $13.3 billion. Though it has advanced capabilities such as the new electromagnetic catapult system and improved weapons elevators, it is not yet able to bring on Lockheed Martin F-35Cs.

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The Kennedy (CVN 79) was christened in December 2019 and is scheduled to be delivered in 2025, one year later than its prior expected delivery. The next in the class, the USS Enterprise (CVN 80), has also been affected by labor and supply chain issues, with its delivery date at least a year late as well, now scheduled for 2028.

The Navy has also faced issues with midlife servicing of its ships. The USS George Washington (CVN 73) came out of its Refueling and Complex Overhaul process in May, about two years later than expected. “We are dependent on Newport News, Virginia,” Whitesell said of issues in the Huntington Ingalls Industries Newport News Shipbuilding yard.

To address the Refueling and Complex Overhaul issues, the Navy is executing a performance-based contract for the process on the USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74). For new builds, the service is also looking at extended advance procurement contracts to have more of a lead time in the supply chain, switching to a three-year period from the current two years, Donnelly said.

“We have to look at our procurement strategies so that we are designing the budgeting and programming [and] buying those on the right centers [to] keep the momentum going in the industrial process,” he says.

Demand for carriers will not likely abate soon, as evidenced by the Ford and Eisenhower operating together in the Mediterranean. The Navy has been stressed in fulfilling its post-Cold War plan for a permanent 1.0 carrier presence on station in three hubs—the Western Pacific, the wider Middle East and Europe. To keep up this presence, the service needs 15 carriers—a 3:1 ratio because of maintenance and deployment process requirements. This plan was outlined in the 1993 Bottom-Up Review under then-Defense Secretary Les Aspin, but the service has been unable to meet it since, says Steven Wills, a navalist with the Center for Maritime Strategy at the Navy League.

Navy policy has shifted to the Fleet Response Plan, which focuses on being able to surge aircraft carriers forward when needed, as with the six carriers deployed for Operation Desert Storm and the five for Operation Iraqi Freedom. The current fleet size of 11 stresses this model, and with reactor time left on the ships, multiple extensions are possible, Wills says. “We beat our ships up. We’ve only got X amount of carriers, and constantly keeping one-third deployed, that’s rough,” he says.

In some ways, keeping the carriers active may be easier than decommissioning them, says Bryan Clark, a senior fellow and director of the Hudson Institute’s Center for Defense Concepts and Technology. Taking apart a massive, nuclear-powered aircraft carrier is a long, expensive and difficult job of which few companies are capable. Just three responded to a request for proposals to decommission the USS Enterprise. This process requires dismantling the nuclear reactor before shipping it to a nuclear waste storage facility, all while the ship takes up space in a dry dock.

As the Navy is planning its future carrier fleet size, it also faces math problems with its air wings. The service customarily had one more carrier air wing than its total number of carriers before deciding it did not need to keep that many aircraft. The Navy currently has nine air wings to serve on 11 carriers. “That means each air wing is getting worked at max availability,” Clark says.

Not all air wings are populated with enough strike fighters, he notes, and the Navy is not looking to buy more. Current F-35C production is capped by Lockheed Martin’s capacity and issues facing development of new capabilities, such as the Block 4 package. Early Super Hornets are reaching service-life caps, as Boeing’s Block III upgrade process has proven more time-consuming than originally expected, while the Navy wants to end new production.

For now, this means the service has been shuffling aircraft around its squadrons to populate those underway. It is a workable approach for now, but it is not necessarily sustainable, he says.

The Navy plans to address the potential aircraft shortages by leaning heavily into uncrewed aviation. The 2022 Navigation Plan authored by then-Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Mike Gilday, who has now retired, called for carrier air wings to be 60% uncrewed and 40% crewed. This plan hinges for now on the Boeing MQ-25 Stingray, slated to be the trailblazer for uncrewed carrier-based operations ahead of new programs such as Collaborative Combat Aircraft on which the Navy is working with the Air Force. Those uncrewed “loyal wingman”-type aircraft, which are to fly alongside F-35s and Next-Generation Air Dominance platforms, are expected to begin to be fielded by the end of the decade. 

"What are the Roots of the Israeli_Palestinian conflict."

 I shamelessly snagged this off Quora... I was taking a break at work and was reading it, and yes I have been very busy, 

   Props to Ted Kord for writing this.

It’s not about land. The Muslim world occupies about 14 million square miles of the Earth’s landmass. Israel occupies a miniscule 8,550 square miles. The issue isn’t land. It’s the mere existence of the Jewish people. But it’s not just that.

There are two main causes of the conflict: (1) Jew Hatred (2) Culture of Jihad

I. Jew Hatred

During the time of Mohammed, there existed a thriving Jewish community in Arabia. The prophet attempted to a convert these Jews to his new religion. The Jews refused to be converted so he made war on them. The Jews eventually sought peace with Jihadis.

The Banu Qurayza particularly resisted conversion. After being defeated by Jihadi’s, Mohammed's companions beheaded somewhere between 600 and 900 Banu Qurayza Jewish men. Their wives and children were taken as slaves and as the spoils of conquest.

The prophet is seen as the most perfect man, and his followers are expected to follow his example. It that example includes beheading 900 Jews and taking their wives as slaves, then those are the actions that some will emulate. But there is also the direct words of the prophet:

“Judgement Day will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews. The Jews will hide behind the stones and the trees, and the stones and the trees will say, oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew hiding behind me — come and kill him.”

So in the prophets own words, it is the obligation of the faithful to kill Jews. During the October 7th attack, one of the Hamas terrorists took the time to brag to his family about how many Jews he killed. He did so using the phones of one of his Jewish victims, and the conversation was recorded. Here's a partial transcript of what he said:

“Hi dad — Open my ‎WhatsApp now, and you’ll see all those killed. Look how many I killed with my own hands! Your son killed Jews!”

And his dad says “May God protect you.”

“Dad, I’m talking to you from a Jewish woman’s phone. I killed her, and I killed her husband. I killed ten with my own hands! Dad, ten with my own hands! Dad, open WhatsApp and see how many I killed, dad. Open the phone, dad. I’m calling you on WhatsApp. Open the phone, go. Dad, I killed ten. Ten with my own hands. Their blood is on their hands. Put mom on.”

And the father says, “Oh my son. God bless you!”

“I swear ten with my own hands. Mother, I killed ten with my own hands!”

And his father says, “May God bring you home safely.”

“Dad, go back to WhatsApp now. Dad, I want to do a live broadcast.”

And the mother now says, “I wish I was with you.”

“Mom, your son is a hero!”

And then, apparently talking to his comrades he yells, “Kill, kill, kill, kill them.”

And then his brother gets on the line, asking where he is. And he tells his brother the name of the town and then he says “I killed ten! Ten with my own hands! I’m talking to you from a Jew’s phone!”

And the brother says, “You killed ten?”

“Yes, I killed ten. I swear!”

Then he says, “I am the first to enter on the protection and help of Allah! Hold your head up, father. Hold your head up! See on WhatsApp those that I killed. Open my WhatsApp.”

And his brother says, “Come back. Come back.”

And he says, “What do you mean come back? There’s no going back. It is either death or victory! My mother gave birth to me for the religion. What’s with you? How would I return? Open WhatsApp. See the dead. Open it.”

And the mother sounds like she is trying to figure out how to open WhatsApp…

“Open WhatsApp on your phone and see the dead, how I killed them with my own hands.”

And she says, “Well, promise to come back.”

This follower of the prophet was ecstatic to have killed 10 Jews with his own hands. He’s overjoyed because he has been taught to hate Jews his whole life, and he finally has been able to follow the path of the most perfect prophet.

II. Culture of Jihad

Over the last four decades there have been almost 50,000 incidents of Jihadi violence. Most of that violence has been directed at other Muslims. The overwhelming majority of these attacks have nothing to do with Israel, or even Jews. There have been 82 attacks inside France. Pakistan, a Muslim country, has suffered some 2000 terrorist attacks.

In 2014, six jihadis affiliated with the Pakistani Taliban attacked a school in Peshawar. These jihadis came from outside of Pakistan—there was a Chechen, two Afghans, and three Arabs. They murdered nearly 150 people, more than 130 of whom were children. A teacher was burned alive in front of her students. The Jihadis killed all the children they could get their hands on. No hostages were taken. No demands were issued. All the jihadis wanted was martyrdom.

One apologist for the terrorists explained how the terrorists actions made sense to them:

Human life only has value among you worldly materialist thinkers. For us, this human life is only a tiny, meaningless fragment of our existence. Our real destination is the Hereafter. We don’t just believe it exists, we know it does.

Death is not the end of life. It is the beginning of existence in a world much more beautiful than this. As you know, the [Urdu] word for death is “intiqaal.” It means “transfer,” not “end.”

Paradise is for those of pure hearts. All children have pure hearts. They have not sinned yet… They have not yet been corrupted by [their kafir parents]. We did not end their lives. We gave them new ones in Paradise, where they will be loved more than you can imagine.

They will be rewarded for their martyrdom. After all, we also martyr ourselves with them. The last words they heard were the slogan of Takbeer [“Allah u Akbar”].

Allah Almighty says Himself in Surhah Al-Imran [3:169-170] that they are not dead.

You will never understand this. If your faith is pure, you will not mourn them, but celebrate their birth into Paradise.

Mind you, this attack killed now Jews and likely didn’t extinguish a single Christian life. This attack killed only Pakistani Muslims, but it’s OK because if they were righteous Muslims they would go to paradise, and if they weren’t righteous, they would burn in hell, like they were supposed to.

I’m not saying that every Muslim hates Jews. I’m Not saying that every Muslim wants to kill and die for Allah. Some clearly do. I don’t know how many. I do there are 1.8 billion Muslims on the planet. If 1 percent of them hate Jews and wish to kill and die for their religion, that’s 18 million potential Jihadis.

The total Jewish population of our planet is about 14 million.

Pakistan School Attack: How Should We Respond To Those Who Speak In Violence? - Youth Journalism International

BIRMINGHAM, United Kingdom – Today in Pakistan the Taliban struck again, with the same merciless manner some have been forced to know all too well. While many across the world went about their daily lives, studying their different subjects and conversing with friends, others were not so lucky. The most recent reports say 132 children […]

https://youthjournalism.org/pakistan-school-attack-how-should-we/

Banu Qurayza - Wikipedia

7th-century Jewish tribe within Arabia The Banu Qurayza ( Arabic : بنو قريظة ; alternate spellings include Quraiza , Qurayzah , Quraytha , and the archaic Koreiza ) were a Jewish tribe which lived in northern Arabia , at the oasis of Yathrib (now known as Medina ). They were one of the three major Jewish tribes of the city, along with the Banu Qaynuqa and Banu Nadir , before they were massacred by the Islamic prophet Muhammad . Jewish tribes reportedly arrived in Hijaz in the wake of the Jewish–Roman wars and introduced agriculture, putting them in a culturally, economically and politically dominant position. [1] [2] However, in the 5th century, the Banu Aws and the Banu Khazraj , two Arab tribes that had arrived from Yemen , gained dominance. [3] When these two tribes became embroiled in conflict with each other, the Jewish tribes, now clients [2] [4] or allies [3] of the Arabs, fought on different sides, the Qurayza siding with the Aws. [5] In 622, Muhammad migrated to Medina after successfully negotiating with the Khazraj—to which his great-grandmother belonged [6] —and the Aws to mediate their tribal conflicts in the city. [7] [8] Previously, in Mecca , tensions had arisen between Muhammad and the Quraysh following his attacks on their faith after they had previously shown little interest in his proselytizing activities. [9] [10] [11] [12] After the migration, Muhammad often raided Quraysh trade caravans and plundered their goods, leading to armed conflicts between the two . [13] [14] Muhammad also tried to convince the Jewish population of Medina that he was their prophet, but failed and was criticized, in part, for the inconsistency of his Quran with the Jewish scriptures . This led to the transfer of the direction of the Islamic prayer from Jerusalem to the Kaaba in Mecca, and sometime later to the expulsion of the Banu Qaynuqa and Banu Nadir from Medina by him. [5] [15] After the Battle of the Trench , Muhammad was reportedly visited by Gabriel , who directed him to attack the Qurayza. [16] Despite the tribe's earlier assistance in excavating the trench to impede the Meccans' advance and providing the Muslims with their tools, [17] [18] [19] Muhammad later accused them of having sided with his enemy—a claim that they strongly refuted. [20] At a later stage of Muhammad's siege against them, the Qurayza initially proposed surrendering and vacating their land, while requesting permission to carry one camel load of possessions per person. When Muhammad declined, they subsequently requested to depart without taking any belongings. Muhammad, however, insisted that they surrender unconditionally. [21] [22] The Qurayza eventually surrendered, and their men were beheaded, [23] [24] [25] [26] their women and children were enslaved, some were sold, and their property was divided among the Muslims. [27] [28] [29] [30] [16] [31] History in pre-Islamic Arabia [ edit ] Early history [ edit ] Extant sources provide no conclusive evidence whether the Banu

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banu_Qurayza

Sam Harris | The Bright Line Between Good and Evil

Transcript of podcast episode #340

https://www.samharris.org/blog/the-bright-line-between-good-and-evil

Islamist Terrorist Attacks in the World 1979-2021 - Fondapol

The period between the invasion of Afghanistan by the Red Army in 1979 and the capture of Kabul by the Taliban on 15 August 2021 corresponds to a rise in Islamist terrorism.

https://www.fondapol.org/en/study/islamist-terrorist-attacks-in-the-world-1979-2021/

Islamist terrorist attacks in the world 1979-2019 - Fondapol

Since the Red Army’s invasion of Afghanistan in 1979, the world has been shaken by jihadist terrorism. In forty years, Islamist terrorist attacks have multiplied, reaching as far as the heart of Western countries, New York, Madrid, London, Paris, but also Moscow, etc. By instilling feelings of fear and mistrust, through indiscriminate violence and its […]

https://www.fondapol.org/en/study/islamist-terrorist-attacks-in-the-world-1979-2019/

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"Are The Palestinians open to peace and reconciliation?"

 

I clipped this off Quora, where there is a lot of screeching from the leftist and antisemitic about the current kerfluffle going on and facts have no bearings on their feelings.  What you are seeing in the schools and the protest here in the States and in Europe are a 2 fold problem, First off, Europe has been importing the 3rd world for several generations, and they bring the 3rd world beliefs with them, as well as the United States, we have also been for several generation been indoctrinating our children in these hives of villainy called a higher education system.  According to the intersectional victimhood politics of the left, the Palestinians are the "Victims" no matter what they do because they are resisting the "Colonizer" That would be Israel. and they have been taught that there are 2 groups of people in the world, the "Colonizer" and the "oppressed".  They see the Palestinians as "Victims" despite the fact that the Palestinians would cheerfully chunk half of them off a building doesn't even register to them.  That is how delusional they are.  You also factor in our very porous Southern border, I see terror attacks coming and the Donks will use them to push through draconian "security" a.k.a "Gun Control, Currency control, population movement controls, information control," and other measures to control the population, "Can't let a crisis go to waste" ya know.  I have stated in the past, we have a large chunk of the population that if we got attacked, would cheerfully support the attackers because we "deserve it" due to the intersectional politics of the left.  

    A guy named Geoff Caplan posted this one.

There has been a recent study conducted by Arab World for Research and Development (AWRAD) among Palestinians living in Gaza and the West Bank, and the results are profoundly depressing.

AWRAD is an internationally respected research and consultancy agency based in Palestine.

Rejection of peace and reconciliation

The great majority are against peace with Israel on any terms:

• 75% support the October 7 massacre
• 85.9% reject coexistence with Israel
• 71.1% are committed to the restoration of “historical Palestine” as a final resolution
• 74.7% support the creation of a Palestinian state “from the river to the sea” as the only acceptable resolution of the conflict.

Support for terrorism

There is almost universal support for terror:

• 76% believe that Hamas plays a somewhat to very positive role
• 84% believe that Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) plays a somewhat to very positive role
• 79.8% believe that Fatah’s terror wing, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, plays a somewhat to very positive role
• 88.6% believe that Hamas’ armed wing, the Al-Kassam Brigades, plays a somewhat to very positive role.

Terror organisations have far higher support than Fatah

Fatah is hardly a force for moderation, but they are far too moderate for their own people:

• 87.3% of the Palestinians believe that the Palestinian Authority plays a negative role
• Only 8.4% believe that the PA should govern the West Bank and Gaza
• 85.8% support Hamas continuing to play a role in the Palestinian government
• 13.6% support a Hamas-only government
• 72.2% support a “national unity” government of Fatah and Hamas.

Ingratitude and hostility towards aid providers

Negativity towards aid providers is extreme:

• 98.2% of Palestinians see the U.S. role as negative
• 96.7% consider the UK role as negative
• 92.6% consider the EU role as negative.
• 85.5% believe that these countries support Israel because of “hatred of Arabs
• 79.5% believe that support is the result of “hatred of Muslims and Islam”

More moderate Arab countries working towards peace are equally hated:

• 96% disapprove of the UAE
• 95.5% disapprove of Saudi Arabia
• 84.6% disapprove of Egypt
• 75.6% disapprove of Jordan.

Unrealistic views on the current military situation

As an indication of the levels of self-delusion in operation here:

• 72.6% said “Palestine” will win the current military conflict
• 3.1% said Israel will win.

Western fellow travellers are equally delusional

Since the outbreak of the current conflict I have heard western apologists claim 100 times that:

“Hamas is not Palestine - why should the ordinary people suffer when all they want is peace?

Clearly, this is the worst kind of bias and wishful thinking.

This study shows that ongoing conflict is precisely what the majority of Palestinians support - and the more brutal the better.

It certainly explains why Israel is still wary of letting down her defences - even more so after their latest intelligence failures on the Gazan border.

Here’s a graphic summary of the result which you could share if you are so minded: