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Saturday, November 30, 2019

Red Flag Laws

I haven't posted anything from the JPFO in a long time.  I used to post stuff from them when I first started blogging.  I saw this from JPFO.  I have a lot of issues with "Red Flag" laws, it violates due process and some states  and municipalities that are anti-gun use this as an excuse to disarm their citizens. All it takes is someone "hearsay" and they come over and seize your guns and you have to take them to court to try to get your guns back and usually you don't because the system is rigged against you and tilted to the state.


'Red Flag',
and its Issues

By Tom Knighton. November 25, 2019

I'm not a fan of red flag laws at all.
On the surface, to be frank, I kind of want to be. I want to find some way to take guns from mass murderers before they do horrible things. On the surface, I really do.
However, the problem is that there's no way to do that without infringing on people's rights. We don't really know who is a mass murderer in the making and who isn't. That means a lot of innocent people are going to be messed with who shouldn't be. Couple that with the whole due process thing, and it's a freaking nightmare.
The problem is that some people don't see that nightmare. They see just the surface, and then they defend the law in print.
The thing is, sometimes, their defense of the law illustrates a lot of the problems with that law. .....
The bottom line is lack of due process - guilty even by heresay, not to mention the extreme risks possible from a dawn no-knock raid when LE 'comes to collect'. Stopping mass murders is one thing, laudable in itself - but deprivation of rights by 'pre-crime' is quite another.
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Second-Amendment
Sanctuaries Defend Civil
Rights Across the US

By Rob Morse. November 25, 2019
Original Source

I'm slow, but I eventually put the pieces together. The bad news is that more state governments are infringing on our rights. The good news is that local governments stood up to protect us. We are seeing a large and growing movement across the country where local governments stand up to protect our right of self-defense. We have well established second-amendment sanctuary counties in Colorado, Illinois, New Mexico, and Washington. We're seeing a new bloom of them in other states. The growth is so rapid, that I know the graphic is out of date.
The second-amendment sanctuary movement started years ago. I remember when counties in Colorado said they would not enforce the recently passed magazine capacity limits. There were many downstate counties in Illinois who told the Chicago-controlled legislature that they would 'keep their guns, thank you'. Counties in New York passed second-amendment sanctuary bills after the infamous New York SAFE Act was passed in the middle of the night. .....

Friday, May 4, 2018

Fisking another 2nd amendment article.


I saw this article on "Politico" about a "Self Professed" gun nut and his idea for the 2nd amendment. and how to get the anti-gunners to climb on board.

     I read it and decided to "fisk" it, I have a lot of issues with this article from someone that "purports" to be on my side.   My Comments will be in "BOLD"

I am a gun industry insider, a lifelong gun owner and a vocal advocate for Second Amendment rights. I am a Texan and an American patriot who hauls my family to church every Sunday in a diesel pickup truck, where I sit in the pew and listen to the Word with a 9mm pistol tucked inside the waistband of my fanciest jeans.
Isn't this the part where the author inserts the inevitable “but”—as in, “I’m a firm Second Amendment advocate, but … ”? Well I’ve got no “buts” for you, because I don't need them. I believe there is a way to increase both our individual gun rights and our collective safety, if we can only get gun controllers to quit bitterly clinging to outmoded feature bans and gun registries, and convince gun rights advocates that “liberty” isn’t just about “what's in my gun safe” but also about being able to exercise one’s full spectrum of Second Amendment rights in every part of this great nation.
The idea is simple but powerful: a federally issued license for simple possession of all semi-automatic firearms. This license would allow us WHO IS US? to carefully vet civilian access to semi-automatic weapons, while overriding state-specific weapon bans and eliminating some of the federal paperwork that ties specific firearms to specific owners.
I offer this idea not only because I actually want to live in a world where it, or something like it, is the law of the land, but also because I and my fellow gun nuts are worried that a storm is coming that will sweep away a substantial portion of our gun rights Thanks to spineless politicians without really making the country safer in return. We're not even five months into a midterm election year, and 2018 has seen a string of high-profile incidents that have darkened the public’s view of civilian gun ownership: February’s massacre at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, Caused by a guy that escaped government oversight repeatedly because of the Obama era program that said that school policies targeted student of color and the guy being Hispanic was given a pass, followed by this month’s shootings at YouTube headquarters in San Bruno, California, and at a Waffle House in Nashville, Tennessee. Caused by a guy that legally couldn't own firearms but did anyway, but lets blame honest law abiding gun owners and the NRA In the aftermath of these killings, we’re hearing proposals for anti-gun measures that we thought were widely considered out of bounds in the gun control debate, like a ban on all semi-automatic firearms, a repeal of the Second Amendment, or even an outright ban on the private ownership of guns. The same people have been trying to eliminate the 2nd amendment since the assault weapons ban of 1994, Remember Senator Feinstein stating "If I had the votes, I would have told Mr and Mrs America turn them in.   Some of us think this will all blow over, as it always does. And maybe it will. But this time definitely feels different.  No it don't unless you feel the draft on your lack of spine.

Our side faces a potent new enemy in the form of private-sector companies like REI, Delta Airlines, Citibank, YouTube and Reddit, which are taking an increasingly anti-gun stance. Due to the SJW's piling on them on social media and the companies fearing bad publicity caved ignoring that they are pissing off half of their customer base. My fellow gun owners and I are now concerned not just with the potential erosion of our gun rights at the hands of our government, but also with the erosion of our ability to communicate and to educate about this topic in the online spaces that make up so much of modern civic life. Due to the pressure from the leftist that run the social media platforms...Remember Twitter and Facebook going after conservatives, how can there be a dialogue when opposing views are suppressed.
There is fear, despair and anger on both sides, and neither side wants to give an inch. No Kidding Remember the Cake by Lawdog?

 We seem doomed to fight endlessly over the same handful of half-measures that neither side is happy with. Of Course not, they won't be happy until there is total disarmament A new approach—a federal gun license for semi-automatic weapons like the AR-15s used in the Parkland shooting and at the Nashville Waffle House—has the potential to make us all safer while offering a net increase in liberty for the country’s law-abiding gun owners. Right a Federal License..what .gov can grant, .gov can strip...ask the Indians...
Before I outline what such a license would look like, it’s important to identify the structural barrier that even moderate and discriminating efforts at gun control have run up against in recent decades. And no, that barrier isn’t a certain three-letter gun rights organization, nor is it the collective grievances of some benighted group of deplorables. Rather, it is the two pillars on which most of our modern life now rests: the market, and the forward march of technological innovation. I am sure the votors lighting up the congresscritters is a factor...ask the democrats...it cost them congress in 1994. 

The newly reintroduced Assault Weapons Ban is emblematic of gun control proponents’ consistent failure to understand how gun technology and the gun market actually work in the 21st century. Gun bans that are based on outlawing certain firearm features (like the vertical foregrip or the adjustable stock) or limiting guns’ capabilities (for instance, by limiting the number of rounds of ammunition they can hold) are relics of a bygone era when you bought a gun and didn’t modify it without the help of a professional gunsmith.People that are pushing gun control are clueless and figure that since they are "our betters" they can do what they want and we dirt people will settle for this...
Nowadays, the most popular rifles, shotguns and handguns are explicitly designed as modular weapon platforms, where parts can be mixed and matched with a few simple tools and no specialized expertise. In fact, not only is the AR-15 just such a modular and easily hackable platform, but so is the Army's new standard-issue handgun, the SIG M17 (available to civilians as the P320).
For modern firearms, the “gun” from the perspective of federal law is typically an empty (and increasingly 3D-printable) metal frame or polymer shell with a serial number stamped into it, while all the rest of the parts that actually make the gun work are widely available online to anyone with a credit card.  The 2nd amendment is an idea...not a weapons platform

Calls to end the sale of these modular weapons platforms, and to return to the classic wood-stocked hunting rifles and revolvers of a bygone era, are nothing less than calls to roll back a few decades worth of market-driven technological innovation. It’s just not going to happen. Halfway attempts are doomed, too. Any attempt to grandfather in existing guns will necessarily leave the parts market intact (otherwise, how do you repair them?), and customers who want a “new” gun can buy a new, mostly preassembled parts collection, and then insert it into an existing frame or into a newly (and easily) fabricated one. Like I said, the 2nd amendment is an idea...not a weapons platform
What, then, can be done about the violence that plagues our cities and the mass shootings that terrorize us in our malls, theaters, churches and workplaces? Having honest people armed for starters, most all the shootings happen in "Gun Free Zones". I think there is an answer, but it involves forgetting about the “what” and focusing squarely on the “who.”
A federal license for all semi-automatic firearms would rest on two simple and well-defined concepts, one technical and one legal:  Again with the Federal license...What the Febbies can grant, the Febbies can revoke.
1) A “semi-automatic” firearm is one that fires a single round for each pull of the trigger, automatically reloading in between each shot until the ammo is depleted.
2) “Possession” is a legal concept from the drug war that implies that a person has a contraband item “on or about one’s person,” or has “control” over the item, perhaps by having it in a motor vehicle or in a home.
Because both of these things—“possession” and “semi-automatic weapons”—are easy to define, they're easy to regulate.  There you go again equating legal gun ownership and the 2nd amendment with the drug war. 
Combine these two concepts with a thorough but reasonable by my standards or some nameless bureaucrat that doesn't answer to the community. vetting process, and you have the makings of a straightforward, effective system for keeping the most lethal class of weapons out of the hands of bad actors, and with a stroke of the pin, honest law abiding citizens while simultaneously lifting the burden of arbitrary weapon bans and federal red tape Remember the Federal license?....More bureaucracy from law-abiding gun owners.
Under a licensing regime  Granted by the Federal governmentthat authorizes license holders for possession of semi-autos, it doesn’t matter whose semi-auto you’re holding, where you got it, how big the magazine is, or how terrifying it looks to the New York Times editorial board. It only matters that you’ve been vetted and are licensed to possess this category of weapon. Vetted by people that may have an interest in saying "no" because you don't fit the political profile they are looking for or you don't have the political connections.
License holders could swap such guns among themselves without the need for any sort of official transfer mechanism—like today’s Federal Firearm License transfers—that leaves a paper trail with the state. Right now, all retail gun purchases, and private-party gun transfers in many states, involve a two-step process: First, the purchaser fills out a paper form that links the gun to the buyer, and second, the seller conducts a federal background check. Together, these two components are referred to as an “FFL transfer.” By federal law, these paper records are not allowed to be digitized or made centrally available.  Centrally available for a reason....Gun confiscation start after such list...Ask the Germans after Hitler took power.
If you were a federal gun license holder, you wouldn’t have to do an FFL transfer whenever you take delivery of a firearm. This would make buying a gun of any type exactly like buying alcohol or any other controlled substance (for example, prescription drugs): flash your authorization, pay your money and walk out the door with whatever it is you bought, wrapped in a paper sack for privacy if you like.  Again making it sound good that you have a federal gun license...trying to hook you in.
If you weren’t a license holder, then simple possession of any semi-auto weapon would be a felony. Don’t have one on your person, or in your car or home. As for taking possession of the types of guns you could have without a license, then it’s universal background checks and FFL transfers for you—basically the status quo, in most states. Most states have a State firearm license permit with reciprocity with most states, part of our federalist system part of the pesky 10th amendment.
There are a lot of important details to be worked out, like the status of pump-action and lever-action guns,or scooping in the maximum firearms possible in the federal net....because why let a crisis go to waste or the specific requirements for getting a license and keeping it current, or due process requirements for restoring a revoked license. that will rely on the benevolence of the state to get your license restored and if you are on the wrong side politically or don't have political connections...well you can kiss it away permanently.   Gun control advocates might want any gun that can fire without reloading included in the licensing regime (pump- and lever-action guns), and gun rights advocates might want current federal restrictions on suppressors and short-barreled rifles dropped. These types of issues could surely be ironed out, as long as we can agree on the basic framework of trading all federal and state bans and registries for a national semi-auto licensing regime.  National licensing regime....first step toward confiscation. 

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The framework I’m proposing is essentially a grand bargain: The gun control side gives up the possibility of a federal gun registry, specific states abandon their weapon bans and long gun registries, and in exchange the gun rights side accepts a brand new federal licensing scheme with real teeth.  The 2nd amendment kinda keeps this as a "natural right".
This bargain would be scary for both sides. Cities like New York and Chicago would have to allow licensed, law-abiding citizens to own AR-15s and high-capacity magazines within their borders,  The antigun states would find a way because the federalist system allows for that. and residents of gun-friendly states like Texas would have to accept a more thorough level of Federal interference  of vetting of ownership of certain guns than they currently do. The gun rights side would be justifiably concerned that a hostile Congress and president could one day attempt to use the licensing scheme to limit the gun rights of large, law-abiding sections of the population, possibly on some arbitrary pretext.  Again just asked the indians and the newly freed slaves about the Jim Crow laws
If we can get past these concerns, this licensing scheme could make us both safer and more free. Gun safety advocates would have the security of knowing that anyone who lawfully possesses a semi-automatic weapon has been thoroughly vetted, And approved by their federal government masters and that there are clear criteria in place for temporarily or permanently revoking that license should the gun owner cross agreed-upon lines. That will move depending on the political winds flowing out of Washington DC.
An initial set of licensing requirements would undoubtedly include having one’s fingerprints on file with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, You know the same people that likes to put gun owners in jail, was behind the WACO fiasco, Fast and Furious and had a hand in Ruby Ridge, those people a thorough background check that screens for things like domestic violence convictions and inclusion in the government’s terrorist watch list (assuming that list has been fixed by adding a way for innocent people to get their names removed). Gun controllers have long desired a national firearm licensing scheme that includes safe storage requirements and a demonstration of basic weapon proficiency; these things would be part of the negotiations. If they didn’t make the first cut, there would be a place to implement them should they gain popular support. Maybe gun controllers could offer the pro-gun side something it badly wants, like relaxing the federal restrictions on suppressors, in exchange for them.  The Anti won't relax on anything, total disarmament is the endgame.
The requirements above, when combined with background checks for all weapon transfers involving an unlicensed party, amount to universal background checks on steroids. In other words, you get universal background checks as a baseline for everyone, and then for the more dangerous class of weapons you get the extra vetting that the license requirements would provide. Again a Federal license that can be removed by imperial fiat.
The threat of temporary or permanent license revocation would create added leverage to enforce laws around disorderly conduct, road rage, domestic violence and similar offenses that may indicate that a person is a danger to others but don’t always rise to the level of a felony that gets them flagged as a prohibited person in the current background check system.  According to the statistics from the CDC and others, people that have a CCW are the most law-abiding people with a criminal rate far less than the general population.
Finally, law enforcement officers would gain a powerful new tool for identifying and prosecuting bad actors: the ability to apprehend anyone caught in possession of a semi-auto without a valid license.
In exchange for the above rules, law-abiding gun owners would enjoy a new freedom to move to any state without surrendering any of their firearms, and to travel anywhere in the country without fear of being jailed for being pulled over with the wrong size magazine in their car. Most important, the many Second Amendment advocates for whom the threat of a national gun registry (and possible future gun confiscation) is a major concern could rest easier, knowing that such a registry would be taken off the table as a practical matter.  The Federal government never forgets and they track everything, anything that can be used against the citizens will be used if it will serve the purpose of the state. 
And all citizens would benefit from a fundamental shift in the tired, acrimonious American gun debate away from often comically inane fights over the particulars of weapon design (“how does a pistol grip turn an ordinary rifle into a weapon of mass destruction?”) and toward a more rational set of disputes around the requirements for semi-auto licensure,  A Federal license, ...something that the founding fathers feared, was turning more power over to the central government, they fought a war recently against the central government. the grounds for license revocation, and the necessary due process requirements for license restoration.  Again the 2nd amendment is kinda clear on the "no infringement part."

I know you’re thinking that this scheme sounds too simple, and has a ton of obvious holes in it. It so happens that I’ve talked this idea through with a lot of really smart people on all sides of this debate. I've heard most of the good objections and have answers for them.
Let’s start with the pro-gun side:
Objection: A registry of people is more frightening than a registry of guns.
Me: You’re already in a ton of public and private databases that contain the most intimate details of your life. Everyone from Facebook to Google to Equifax to the Social Security Administration has a big, fat file on you. So if your objection to this scheme is that putting citizens in a government-accessible database is tyranny, then it’s already well past time for you to pick up your AR-15 and get your revolution on. (Just don’t use the internet to coordinate your revolution, or half a dozen government agencies will have all the details shortly after you and your fellow patriots have finished working them out.)
I’ve talked to at least one gun-rights person who doesn’t like this idea who is nonetheless enrolled in TSA Precheck. So just imagine this license as TSA Precheck, but for guns.  Flying is a choice, the 2nd amendment isn't
You should also recognize that the only thing currently standing between us and a de facto federal gun registry is an innocuous-sounding law banning the digitization of, and centralized access to, all FFL records. The anti-gunners are currently pushing for this law to be repealed under the banner of “common sense.” By taking the FFL process out of the loop for all transfers between license holders, this proposal takes even this backdoor registry attempt off the table as a practical matter.  It will be there in fact with the federal license requirement.

Objection: Are you going to confiscate my semi-autos if I refuse to get a license?
Me: No, I’m not. I imagine there would be something like a three- to five-year grace period, during which time existing semi-auto owners would either get a license or transfer their guns to someone who does have a license.  Government seizure of firearms after the "grace period" is a certainty
Objection: I live in a state where I can buy any gun I want from a private party, without a background check or FFL transfer that puts me into a government database. So this decreases my liberty because now I’ll need a license to do something I can currently do without one.
Me: You’re not thinking big-picture enough. Yes, you're blessed to live in Gun Country right now, but what if you get a new job and have to move? Do you have the liberty to move anywhere in the United States and take your guns with you? Do you have the liberty to take your AR-15 “truck gun” with you when you vacation in a less-free state? No, you absolutely do not. But under my scheme, you will, because this whole thing is a nonstarter if the law that institutes the licensing regime doesn’t also prevent states from putting in place their own arbitrary feature bans. The gun free states will still enact their own policies and our federalist system allows for this as does the 10th amendment,
Objection: I object to federal gun laws trumping local gun laws. Let states make their own gun laws.
Me: Sorry, friend, but you lost all credibility on that score when you backed the NRA’s push for federal legislation to force all states to recognize each others’ concealed carry permits (National Concealed Carry Reciprocity), which is nothing less than a federal override of state and local gun laws. Besides, are you really telling me you don't want to see the feds tell New Jersey and California where to stuff their gun bans?  National reciprocity is each state involved, not a central federal government.
Objection: Gun ownership is a constitutional right, and we don’t license constitutional rights. You don’t need a special license for free speech, for instance.


Me: You wouldn’t need a license to own lots and lots of guns of different types under this scheme, either. You would just need a license to own semi-autos, just like you need a license to broadcast over certain parts of the public airways.  Public airways is not the same thing as the 1st amendment, and the second amendment, you are switching apples and oranges.
Objection: Wouldn’t this federal license be a “kill switch” on the right to keep and bear arms? As you’ve conceded, a hostile federal government could change the requirements in such a way that bars almost all of us from getting guns.
Me: This would be a concern, but it’s already a concern. We may have to rely on the courts for protection. The gun control side is mistaken if it thinks it’s going to immediately begin to dictate entirely new terms of American gun ownership unilaterally in November. President Donald Trump is in the process of packing the federal courts with conservative judges, and he may get another Supreme Court pick before he leaves office. So even if gun controllers can get Congress to move their way, there's no guarantee that new laws will survive the inevitable court challenges. (Justice Clarence Thomas recently hinted that he thinks state and local assault weapon bans are unconstitutional.) Plus, there’s no possibility of a gun registry under this scheme, so no matter how bad it gets there’s even less of a threat of confiscation than there is under the current system.  the anti's and activist judges are picking and choosing which laws they like to support their agenda, not the constitution.
Objection: The Constitution is my carry permit, and it’s also my semi-auto license.
Me: Alright, then. Good luck with that.  Heller and the supreme court has stated that many times...
Now, the objections from the gun control side:
Objection: This licensing scheme looks impossible to enforce if we don't back it with a gun registry that ties specific guns to specific licensees.
Me: You’re confused by the fact that we happen to pair drivers’ licenses with vehicle registration, even though licensing and registration are separate things that happen for separate reasons.
A driver’s license just says, “This person is authorized to drive a vehicle of this class. Any vehicle, really, no matter who owns it.” We also require vehicle registration for a variety of other reasons (mainly related to insurance, liability and theft) that have nothing to do with keeping people who shouldn’t be driving from getting behind the wheel. License to drive a car is a privilege in this country, owning a firearm is an inherent right.
The specific goal of this semi-auto licensing scheme is to keep people who shouldn’t be shooting from picking up a semi-auto, and not to do other gun control things you'd really love to do—like tracing crime guns, or confiscating guns from people whose licenses have lapsed.
Also, I’ll let you in on a little secret: Universal background checks are also impossible to enforce without a gun registry. If you don't know what guns I own, then how can you know which gun I just traded to my golf buddy for a nice set of clubs? You can't. So you don’t have a registry currently, and you wouldn’t have a registry under this scheme. But at least under this scheme you wouldn’t need a registry, because you would have federally licensed gun ownership instead.  Again with a federal license...
Objection: OK, but if we don't have a gun registry and we do away with FFL transfers for license holders, then what's to stop a license holder from selling a gun to a non-license holder?
Me: The law is what will stop them. As gun controllers are always fond of reminding people like me, criminalization is a deterrent. It would be illegal for a license holder to transfer a semi-auto to someone without a license, just like it’s currently illegal in many states for anyone to transfer any gun without an FFL transfer. In fact, you should go to jail and lose all your gun rights if you get caught—your license should be revoked, and you should be added to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System database.  No,  people give guns to their family all the time, we know who is "ok" or not. 
Besides, if you're someone who is willing to commit a felony in order to sell a gun to someone illegally and in a way that can’t be traced to you, then you can already do that by just grinding off the gun's serial number before you sell it on the black market, Criminals get guns illegally all the time.

This lack of a registry or of any paperwork at all accompanying the transfer of a weapon between two licensees may not be what you want, but it’s not any worse than the status quo. You’re not really giving anything up, here. And again, you’re getting federally licensed gun ownership for the most dangerous and popular category of weapons!  What the Febbies grant, they can revoke.....
The ATF says it was “potentially a violation of federal law” for the Nashville shooter’s father to return his AR-15 to him. With a federal license, there wouldn’t be any question. In fact, in all of the recent active-shooter cases where the shooter had a history with police and red flags from family members, a licensing scheme could have provided a system to prevent the shooters from legally obtaining semi-automatic weapons.  The same people that let the shooter in Florida slide because it was politically expedient?
Objection: You haven't said what the licensing requirements are. I think that anyone who wants to own a semi-auto should have four letters of recommendation, a yearly psychiatric evaluation, be a graduate of Ranger School, and have participated in at least one “Jeopardy!” Tournament of Champions.
Me: Yeah, we're going to fight over that. A lot, probably. But that fight would be way more reality-centered and sane than our current fights over pistol grips and barrel shrouds and telescoping stocks.
    The Anti will ask for training requirements that will be totally unrealistic and if they can't meet those requirements, Voila!  Disarmed citizens..or a signoff from a political police chief like that assclown in Broward County.
Objection: Someone could openly carry an AR-15 in Times Square under these rules!
Me: It will probably surprise you to learn that there’s actually no New York state law against the open carry of rifles, so the only thing currently prohibiting the AR-15-in-Times-Square scenario is a New York City ordinance. A federal gun license would not affect state and local open- or concealed-carry laws, which are a separate issue.  It just adds another level of bureaucracy to gun ownership.
Objection: This won’t decrease the number of guns in circulation, or take guns that are really scary-looking to me out of civilian hands, or generally advance the cause of total civilian disarmament.
Me: Yep, you’re right. It won't do any of those things, and in fact it would probably do the opposite. A greater number of (vetted) law abiders would have more military-style weapons with full-sized magazines in cities and states where they can’t currently get them. If that’s unacceptable to you, then you and the guy who thinks the Constitution is his carry permit can fight meme wars on Facebook while the rest of us work on ways to keep the hundreds of millions of unregistered guns that are already in circulation out of the hands of criminals, domestic abusers and would-be mass shooters.
    Key word.."Registered Firearms....."

    You put forth some interesting ideas, but ....Naa I'll pass, your idea is caving too much to the antigunners whose only goal is total disarmament except for the police and the government whose purposes are totally benevolent. 








Friday, September 25, 2015

Why we need an AR?



I have this on the scheduler thingie...When certain people ask "Why do you NEED an AR15?"

   Now that being said...This is a very good pic of a NICE AR pattern rifle.  I tell people that the 2nd amendment isn't about duck hunting.  It is about our inalienable right to live free of tyranny, government or private.  We have the means to defend our selves.   When they again ask, "why do you need an AR15?"   I then show this picture:
 These are scratches from the "Death showers" in the concentration camp at Auschwitz.  This is what happens when the government decides to shove you into an oven and you have no recourse to protect yourself because the government by imperial fiat stripped you of your right and codes you as an "undesirable" and an "Enemy of the state".  Us having an AR or any other rifle makes the government attempt to shove us into a camp, a very expensive endeavor.

Sunday, April 28, 2013

Obama's economic war against firearms.

I was pulling this off Breitbart.  Well since Obama failed through the legislature, now he is using his his crony capitalist pals with GE, Bank of America and others to run gun manufacturers out of business.

This is the definition of Fascism...its official. The merger between state and corporation. How else do you describe a company like GE, that took a $183 Billion bailout, that has now decided not to finance an industry that economically is successful. The laws of economics right now would oblige GE to fund a business that can so obviously return a profit because demand is high. Regardless of what Obama and his minions have said about the "majority" of America ready to give up their guns....economics say he is lying.
GE's decision is not one based on finances or business, it is a political decision. What is GE Capital doing in the world of politics?  

     Is there a list of companies that we need to not support besides GE, Bank of America and Comcast?

    From Breitbart:

Gun Control Advocates Revel in Obama's Economic War on Guns

 

As gun control advocates cheered GE Captial's decision to cease business with gun stores, President Obama's economic war on the gun industry came into full view.

While Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) supports legislation to dry up the supply of firearms in this country, Obama and company are working behind the scenes to dry up the capital needed to make firearms and operate firearms related businesses.
We began seeing this in January when Obama's right hand man, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, began pressuring Bank of America (BA) and TD Bank to quit doing business with gun manufacturers.
Band of America was so eager to comply that they froze the account of Arizona AR-15 manufacturer Spirit Arms before Emanuel even put his request in writing.
Bank of America defended their action by pointing out that Spirit Arms allows customers to order guns over the internet without conducting a background check. BA missed the fact that the guns are not shipped to the customers directly but to a FFL near the customer, where a background check on the buyer is performed before the gun is handed to him or her.
Although BA was eventually shamed into reversing course, the impetus for their action was clear. Now that GE Capital has followed suit, gun control advocates are cheering their victory.
But other businesses are feeling the pressure as Obama, Democrats, and gun-control advocates attempt to turn Smith & Wesson and Glock into the equivalent of Marlboro or Winston cigarette manufacturers. Comcast Cable, for example, announced a ban on all firearm and ammunition advertisers in March.

Friday, April 26, 2013

Why does Obama and the Democrats have a hardon for Gun Control....?




Because his fellow traveler Sarah Brady is a socialist, JUST LIKE HE IS! Thank GOD for Owl Gore's Internet. Note the little blurb in the lower right hand corner.   How 'bout that....?   This isn't about guns...it is about CONTROL.
The small print reads:  "from remarks made to liberal U.S. Senator Howard Metzenbaum (he was actually a communist) as she lobbied in support of a ban on semi-automatic firearms.
How odd that this surfaces now. Sarah Brady trots out her useful idiot husband, to champion their gun grabbing cause when in reality, she, like all Democrats, wants total control over the population.
....MOLAN LABE

THE UGLY FACE OF A GUN GRABBING SOCIALIST PIG!


Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Wounded Warrior project has problems with firearm owners and manufacturers.

I saw this from Old NFO.

    I have contributed money to these people and this crap does piss me off.   I have cut and pasted this verbatim from An Ordinary Texan Pass the word.....


Wounded Warrior Project rejects gun-owners, gun-dealers, gun-manufacturers.

No, I'm not kidding. Wounded Warrior Project is taking center stage as the biggest group of hypocrites this nation has ever seen.

I got an e-mail earlier today from an associate in south-central Texas about this breaking news, and my first reaction was to pick up the phone and accuse the e-mailer of being drunk. Since he doesn't drink, that accusation fell flat.

He was typing as we talked, then he told me to check my in-box. "The proof is in there," he assured me.

Sure as hell. . .

To briefly set this up, Tom Gresham of Gun Talk invited Wounded Warrior Project to be on his show on Veterans Day. What a great way to raise a lot of money in a short amount of time. Veterans are patriotic, and for sure gun-owners are. Gun-owners are also generous when it comes to helping out veterans.

His (Gresham's) invitation was flatly refused.

Thanks to the e-mails being shared openly and publicly with Guns.com, there is no denying where Wounded Warrior Project stands on the issue of guns and gun-owners.

Here is the e-mail exchange between Gresham and the PR chief for Wounded Warrior Project, along with an explanatory intro by one of Gresham's staffers.

Again, thank you to Tom Gresham and Gun Talk and Guns.com for sharing this.

Wounded Warrior Project Email Exchange
by Gun Talk on Tuesday, November 13, 2012 at 10:56am ·
After Sunday's show, we've gotten many emails about Tom's remarks after WWP declined an interview request on Gun Talk Radio because it's a firearms-related show. We've also seen the forums that are suggesting many things that are not true. So, I'm going to lay it all out right here.
We thought it would be great to book the WWP on the Veteran's Day show to promote the organization, so I contacted them. I was flabbergasted when their PR contact, Leslie, sent me an email saying they could not participate because our show dealt with firearms. Knowing that WWP has a booth at SHOT show and various gun shows across the US, takes wounded warriors on hunts and range days, raffles guns and accessories as fundraisers, etc., their policy didn't make much sense. I forwarded the email on to Tom to get his take.
-Sarah
The following is the complete email exchange:
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Hello, Leslie:
Sarah forwarded me your email after I asked her to invite the Wounded Warriors Project to join me on "Tom Gresham's Gun Talk" radio show.
I'm stunned at your email saying that the WWP doesn't participate in an interview or activity related to firearms.  Inasmuch as there are 90 million gun owners and most of them support wounded veterans, I think they would be shocked to hear that they are, by way of their hobbies, somehow not worthy of helping with the Wounded Warriors Project.
 Does your policy apply also to police agencies and the military, since they are "related to firearms?"
I'm hoping that we have misunderstood your email.  Can you confirm that it is, in fact, an official policy of the Wounded Warriors Project to not do interviews with or participate in any activity related to firearms?
Thank you.
Tom Gresham
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Good afternoon -
While we appreciate your interest in Wounded Warrior Project® (WWP) you are correct that we decline the media opportunity.
Please note the following notice that appears on our website which also applies to WWP public awareness policy and inquiries from media outlets:
WWP does not co-brand, create cause marketing campaigns or receive a percentage or a portion of proceeds from companies in which the product or message is sexual, political or religious in nature, or from alcohol or firearms companies.
 Thank you for your inquiry.
 LESLIE A. COLEMAN
 public relations director
O: 904.405.1433
 M: 904.654.8138
 F: 904.296.7347
 Wounded Warrior Project
 4899 Belfort Road, Suite 300
 Jacksonville, Florida 32256
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Thanks for confirming that, Leslie.  It was a simple opportunity to promote the WWP on a national program in an effort to send donations your way.
 I'll pass along the info that you don't want or need the help of America's gun owners.  
 Best regards,
 Tom Gresham
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Good morning --
This policy is not a judgment on those who own and use firearms – clearly every member of our armed forces has been trained in the use of firearms and then called on to use them in the course of their service to this country.
Our position regarding firearms and alcohol is in response to the struggles that many injured service members face with substance abuse and suicide and the roles those items often play in those issues.
 Thank you.
 LESLIE A. COLEMAN
 public relations director
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Hello, Leslie:
Thank you for that explanation.
I do think -- and I'm being as kind as possible -- that it's the nuttiest thing I've heard in years. Suicides are not linked to firearms. Japan has a much higher rate of suicide than does the U.S., and they have essentially no firearms. Suicide is a serious issue irrespective of the methodology used.  
This explanation doesn't pass even the most simple "does this make sense" test.
Your policy does, in fact, brand firearms and the companies which make them as undesirables, and by association, you are saying that those who own and use firearms for recreation, hunting, self protection, and other safe and legal uses are to be avoided.
It's certainly your option to ostracize the firearms industry, the 90 million gun owners in America, and the media which support firearms safety training.  
At this point, I feel an obligation to make sure the millions who listen to my radio show and watch my two national television series know about your policy.
I cannot fully express how much I feel you are doing a disservice to our wounded veterans, and how disappointed I am to discover this bias at the Wounded Warriors Project.
Sincerely,
Tom Gresham

 The only gifts my wife and I gave out last year were cards reading, "A generous donation has been made to Wounded Warrior Project in your name. Wishing you a very Merry Christmas and Joyous New Year, J.D. & Lois Kinman."
You can bet your last dollar we won't be sending those out this year. We're done with Wounded Warrior Project.
Hypocrites.