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Showing posts with label Military vehicles.. Show all posts
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Wednesday, September 19, 2018

When Porche tried to build a "Jeep" for the West German Military.


I shamelessly clipped this from Car and Driver.  I thought it was a neat article especially since I have been posting a bunch of articles during Postwar Germany, I thought it kinda tied in with them.





When West Germany was formed out of the ashes of Hitler's Third Reich in 1949, responsibility for its defense fell to the Western Allies. As tensions with Stalin's Soviet Union only seemed to be increasing, it was decided that the Bundesrepublik Deutschland should be allowed to arm itself, leading to the formation of the Bundeswehr, a new German defense force, incorporating a new army, a revived Luftwaffe, and a naval service simply referred to as Marine. The new service needed a Jeep, a role that had been largely performed during World War II by the Beetle-based Kübelwagen. DKW's awkward-looking Munga won the competition to serve as light-duty mobility for German troops, beating out upstart sports-car manufacturer Porsche's very interesting Jagdwagen.
Known by its Porsche type number, 597, the Jagdwagen (literally, "hunting car") pulled a page from the Volkswagen playbook. Where Ferdinand Porsche's Kübelwagen borrowed heavily from his design for the VW Beetle, his son Ferry used his company's 356 in much the same way. Given that the 356 itself can be seen as a radical evolution of the Beetle, it's not a stretch to claim that the Kübelwagen and the Jagdwagen trace their roots to the same seed.
But while the VW had Nazi win-at-all-costs fanaticism and the industrial might of the state-owned KdF-Stadt at Fallersleben behind it, Porsche's company had only its Stuttgart works and contract production at Karmann available, likely making the Jagdwagen a more expensive proposition, especially from the perspective of a relatively new government in the midst of rebuilding a nation.
However, for the expense, there was real capability on offer. Its 356-derived 50-hp flat-four engine was connected to a five-speed transmission, but that wasn't the end of it. The front wheels were capable of engaging with the powertrain on the fly. Given all-wheel traction, a short wheelbase, and generous approach and departure angles, the Jagdwagen was capable of climbing a 65 percent grade

Early prototypes, introduced in January 1955, featured a very high sill without doors, giving the Jagdwagen a measure of amphibious capability, although its motorboat capabilities weren't developed to the extent of the Kübelwagen’s fishy-flutter cousin, the World War II–era Schwimmwagen, which featured a propeller. Later prototypes from 1957 favored ease of ingress and egress over amphibious prowess, and they were equipped with doors.
Weighing in at a mere 1874 pounds, the flyweight military vehicle offered impressive dynamics for its day, but the Bundeswehr ultimately determined that the nifty Jagdwagen and its Goliath co-competitor were less a match for the country's needs than the simple, dumpy Munga from DKW. Nevertheless, it stands as the first Porsche-branded vehicle with four driven wheels. Porsche's Stuttgart facility had assembled four-wheel-drive Schwimmwagens during the war years and had developed the all-wheel-drive Cisitalia Grand Prix car shortly after the war.
Of the 71 Jagdwagens constructed, roughly 50 examples are known to exist still. And today, of course, the remnants of DKW are part of Audi, Porsche's sister brand in the Volkswagen Group portfolio. Porsche didn't build another vehicle with four driven wheels until the all-mod-cons 959 of the 1980s, but today it largely sustains itself building sport-utility vehicles such as the Cayenne and the Macan, the latter of which is based on Audi’s Q5.
Without the Munga-contract money that flowed into Ingolstadt bolstering Auto Union's postwar fortunes, today's Audi might never have existed, there might have been no Volkswagen Golf, and Porsche might well have wound up having to develop the Macan from scratch. Which, if we're honest, probably would've been just fine with Porsche.

Saturday, March 17, 2018

Remember the Surplus Jeep in a crate..?

I have heard the same thing about the more modern "jeep", the M151 series, like what I drove in Germany and my Dad drove in Vietnam.  Mine was made by Ford Motor Company in 1970 according to the data plate.  I wish I could have bought her from the division property book officer when we turned them in in 1987 for Humvees.  Yeah the Humvee looked badass but we still liked the Jeep.


A young man reading one of the magazines like Boy’s Life or Popular Science in the 40s or 50s might have come across an exciting advertisement. ‘Army Surplus Jeeps. Only $50’.
All you had to do was send away $20 (about $200 the US in today’s money), and you’d be given a good deal on a Jeep or another piece of army surplus equipment.  I saw the same thing or a variation of the same scam involving the M151 series vehicles. 
Sounds too good to be true? That’s because it wasn’t. It was a scam. The scammers weren’t buying Jeeps for people. Rather they were sending pamphlets with information on how to bid at government auctions. And the same information was available from the U.S. Government for free! And even then, very few complete Jeeps were available for sale. Most Jeeps were scrapped, leaving only spare parts for sale.
Jeep production line.

The crated Jeep – it wasn’t that common to crate them – it was expensive.
But who would want a Jeep anyway? They carried a 1/4 ton, they were a four-wheel drive vehicle. Nevertheless, it was advertised as a great boon to civilians. With the end of the war in sight, Popular Science began encouraging the market for surplus Jeeps by running a contest in March 1945.
It really is a great sight though.
The magazine encouraged readers to offer their ideas on the theme ‘how I’ll use surplus goods’. It was suggested that the Jeep could be a tractor, a power generator, a truck, a pick–up. Everyone had to have a Jeep! And they have become very popular with civilians, both for work and recreational use, right up to the present time.
Worth a small fortune in today’s money.
But it wasn’t army Jeeps that answered the demand, but rather Jeeps designed for civilian use. The first CJ, or Civilian Jeep, was produced in 1941 and was called the CJ2A. And Jeeps like the Wrangler and Cherokee are popular as family vehicles nowadays.
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Crated Jeeps
One of the best designs of the war.
Of course, the Jeep wasn’t built for civilians. It had an important military purpose. The military needed a tough vehicle that could carry heavy loads, pull heavy objects and move quickly over rough ground. 648,000 Ford GPW’s and Willys MB’s were built during World War II – 15 percent of military vehicles produced were Jeeps. The Jeep was used by every branch of the U.S military, with an average of 145 assigned to each infantry regiment.

Reading for shipping.
But to return to these old advertisements – they promised that they would send you in a Jeep boxed up in a crate. How did they get that to work? Well, it didn’t. Again, it was a scam to try and get the reader’s money. It is true that the Army did crate complete Jeeps for shipment to U.S. forces and countries like Britain and the Soviet Union. However, it was a costly and time-consuming exercise which was done only when necessary.
Jeeps lined up in France awaiting shipment to the Pacific

Jeep graveyard – Okinawa
It is doubtful if any crated Jeeps remained in the United States to be sold to civilians after the war. Dealers and organizations have offered substantial amounts of money for anyone who can produce a Jeep in a crate. So far, no money has changed hands.
So if you do want a Jeep, you’d be better off going to your local car dealer.