Webster

The Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions." --American Statesman Daniel Webster (1782-1852)


Monday, June 1, 2026

Monday Music "Birds Fly(Whisper To A Scream)

 


I had a different song in mind, but couldn't pull it together, so y'all will get the other song next week.

I remembered this song hitting in 1983 on the MTV music circuit, you know MTV...Back when they played Music video's rather than the insipid reality shows and other crap.   and I thought it was a pretty cool song, but it faded away and I forgot about the song until my Sirius/XM did their forgotten hit with cuts from Indiana Jones and "Raiders of the Lost Ark" and this song came on and it was a "Eureka" moment and I recalled the song and saved it and bootlegged it on an app I have on my phone. This song came on this morning on the way to work on my sirius/xm and I played it over and over again.(Yes I'm strange...and I'm good with it.😁


"Birds Fly (Whisper to a Scream)", given the reversed title "Whisper to a Scream (Birds Fly)" in some markets, is a song by the British band The Icicle Works. It was released in 1983 as the first single from the band's 1984 debut eponymous album The Icicle Works. The song was written by Ian McNabb, the band's lead singer, and produced by Hugh Jones.


The Icicle Works is the eponymous debut album by The Icicle Works. The album was released in 1984 and charted at number 24 in the UK and number 40 in the US.
The original 1984 issue features different track listings and cover artwork in the UK, in the USA, and in Canada.
In 2006, Beggars Banquet Records issued both a 2-CD and a limited edition 3-CD expanded edition of The Icicle Works. Disc 1 consists of the original album in its entirety, in the UK configuration. Disc 2 features a selection of b-sides, radio sessions, and remixes, as well as one live track. On the 3-CD edition, the first 10 tracks of disc 3 consist of "radio session" versions of the songs from the original UK Icicle Works album; they are presented in the original UK album sequence. Disc 3 then concludes with a previously released b-side, and a previously unreleased album outtake.
The US version of the album has a remixed and re-titled version of "Birds Fly (Whisper to a Scream)". The US remix does not include the female spoken introduction heard on the UK mix. The US album was released by Arista Records.

 

Pitchfork Media described the song "Love Is a Wonderful Colour" as "one of those "wow where was this hiding?" tracks that make you think there's something left to 80s crate-digging.

Saturday, May 30, 2026

Ukraine Finalizing Deals For Gripen Acquisition And Donation

 

I got this from Aviation Weekly, I thought it was interesting for those keeping track of the assorted weapon systems that are being utilized by the Ukrainians right now.

Gripen

Credit: Tony Osborne/Aviation Week

Ukraine will receive 16 donated Saab Gripen fighters from Sweden once it finalizes the first stage of a deal to acquire new-build Gripen Es.

Visiting Sweden on May 28, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said the donated Gripen C/Ds could be fighting in Ukrainian skies by the beginning of 2027.

Crucially, these aircraft would be armed with MBDA Meteor ramjet-powered beyond-visual-range air-to-air missiles, finally giving the Ukrainian Air Force a counter to the long-range air-to-air missiles used by the Russian Air Force. Kyiv would also gain the ability to target Russian strike aircraft carrying standoff weapons such as glide bombs.

“These jets, with very specific weapons, especially Meteors, which can destroy [air] targets [at ranges of] 200 km-plus…we think we will push back these Russian jets, and they will not be able to use their aerial glide bombs,” Zelenskyy told journalists.

The $2.3 billion package of ex-Swedish Air Force aircraft would also include other long-range weapons, ammunition, electronic warfare capabilities and what the Swedish government described as “support to innovation,” enabling the aircraft to be adapted to Ukrainian operational requirements.

Receipt of the donated Gripens as bilateral assistance depends on export approvals and finalization of an agreement to acquire an initial batch of 20 Gripen E/Fs, which Ukraine plans to fund using €2.5 billion from a broader €90 billion European Union loan package.

European leaders have already approved reforms and financial terms for the Ukraine Support Loan. The first funds will potentially reach Kyiv next month. Around two-thirds of the package is expected to support Ukrainian defense requirements.

The European Council approved the loan in April after Hungary and Slovakia lifted objections to the arrangement.

Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson said there had initially been skepticism about Ukraine’s plans to acquire the fighters last year, but that the effort was now moving ahead.

Negotiations and implementation details were underway, he said, adding that “our ambition is to quickly conclude an agreement which will enable deliveries before 2030.”

“This is a historic decision for Sweden, but it also significantly strengthens Ukraine’s air defense,” Kristersson added.

“Building a Ukrainian fleet of Swedish Gripens will help us guarantee the security of Ukraine and the Ukrainian people,” Zelenskyy said.

The milestone follows the signing of a declaration of intent last October covering the potential acquisition of as many as 150 Gripen E/F fighters over the next 10-15 years.

Zelenskyy said he was committed to acquiring all 150 aircraft, a move that would make Ukraine the largest customer for the fighter. Orders and deliveries would occur in batches.

Ukrainian pilots have already been training in Sweden on the Gripen since allied countries agreed to begin donating Western combat aircraft to Ukraine. Earlier plans to transfer Gripen C/Ds were deliberately delayed to avoid disrupting deliveries of the Lockheed Martin F-16s now entering Ukrainian service. Swedish Defense Minister Pål Jonson said that training effort would expand this fall.

Kristersson also said Sweden would continue contributing to pilot training for the Ukrainian Gripen fleet. He added that deliveries of Gripen Es to the Swedish Air Force would need to accelerate to replace the Gripen C/Ds being transferred to Ukraine.

In a statement, Saab said discussions regarding Sweden’s replacement of the donated aircraft capability would begin shortly. No contracts or orders have yet been signed, the company added.

Ukraine is currently fighting Russian forces using Soviet-era Sukhoi Su-24s, Su-25s, Su-27s and Mikoyan MiG-29s, while continuing to receive F-16s from Belgium, Denmark and the Netherlands. Dassault Aviation Mirage 2000s have also been supplied by France.

Analysts have long argued that the Gripen is particularly well suited to Ukraine’s operational environment because of its ability to operate from austere locations and employ weapons such as Meteor. Pilots have also suggested the Gripen is more forgiving to operate and maintain than the F-16s already delivered.

“Gripen was built for a country that may have to fight outnumbered, under pressure and from dispersed bases, that makes it highly relevant for Ukraine,” Jonson said.

Sweden has been among the largest contributors of military aid to Ukraine, supplying weapons, artillery and airborne early warning aircraft intended to enhance the effectiveness of the fighter fleets provided by allied nations.

Kyiv also signed a similar declaration of intent with France in November covering the potential acquisition of 100 Rafales. No details have yet emerged regarding progress in those negotiations or whether part of the Ukraine Support Loan could also be allocated toward a Rafale purchase.

Friday, May 29, 2026

The 4 Cardinal Virtues

 


I saw this over Here.  This is a site for what I call guys with a traditional value system.  No metro-sexual girlie men you will find there.  I really liked what the site said,  I used their words, but I used my own pictures rather than what they had.  I figured my circle of bloggers will enjoy it since in my mind we also have the same kind of virtues.  I was going to post it tomorrow...but I hit "publish" rather than "schedule"...Oh well....it will help make up for my lack of postings earlier this week.
 


Traditional Christian theology names faith, hope, and charity as the theological virtues. They are directly imparted to the believing Christian by the grace of God and are not attainable through the natural order. They are called theological because they have God for their immediate and proper object; because they are divinely infused; and because they are only known through divine revelation.
Grace perfects nature and the three theological virtues are the flowers of the four cardinal virtues: prudence, justice, temperance, and fortitude. The word cardinal comes the Latin cardo, translated as “hinge.” Whether you’re a lifelong Christian or a Godless heathen, the cardinal virtues are part of the natural moral order and can be cultivated through self-discipline and hard work. We must cultivate them if we expect to live a happy life in this world.


It’s difficult to overstate how much Greek philosophy has influenced Christian theology. Plato identified the four cardinal virtues with a corresponding class of citizen in The Republic.
Temperance applied especially to farmers and craftsmen, i.e. those who provided for our bodily appetites. Fortitude was the necessary virtue of the soldier and corresponded to our spirit. Prudence was the virtue of the ruling class. Justice stood outside the system and governed the relationship between the other three classes and the virtues.
The Roman statesman Cicero also emphasized the four:

Virtue may be defined as a habit of mind (animi) in harmony with reason and the order of nature. It has four parts: wisdom (prudentiam), justice, courage, temperance.

And the deuterocanonical Book of Wisdom 8:7 in the Bible:

And if a man love justice: her labours have great virtues; for she teacheth temperance, and prudence, and justice, and fortitude, which are such things as men can have nothing more profitable in life.

 The first recorded instance of the word “cardinal” to describe these virtues occurs in St. Ambrose of Milan’s commentaries on the Gospel of Luke. Later on it appears in the writings of St. Augustine and St. Jerome. St. Thomas Aquinas gave it the most in-depth and systematic treatment of any other theologian in Western Christianity.

Prudence

Thomas teaches that prudence is the virtue that corresponds to the intellect. It enables us to discern our true good in any given situation and the proper means of achieving it. Because it is rooted in the intellect, prudence does not mean directly willing the good it sees, but rather sets the measure for the exercise of the other virtues.
Most importantly, it identifies the golden mean where natural virtue lies. If we lack prudence, courage becomes suicidal recklessness. Mercy becomes weakness. Justice becomes tyranny.


We must not confuse prudence with cowardice or dissimulation. It is the charioteer of the other virtues and guides the judgment of our conscience. The shortest and most effective definition of prudence is “right reason applied to action.” You wouldn’t start your own business without a plan of some sort, no matter how vague.

Justice

Prudence governs our actions. Fortitude and temperance concern taming our irascibility and our appetites. Justice deals with our rights and obligations toward other people.
Obviously the words “justice and “right” have been much abused over the last few decades, but abuse does not preclude legitimate use. If Jones borrows money from Smith, then Smith, in justice, has a right to get his money back if Jones refuses to pay up. The supernatural virtue of charity means going above and beyond the demands of justice; Smith may forgive Jones of his debt and make the money a gift. Justice is blind because she does not respect our position in society.



Justice means respecting others and fulfilling our obligations to them, whether it’s their right to life and limb or simply adhering to contracts. It means expressing gratitude toward those who have done us a kindness. It definitely does not mean a vague and undefined resentment of cishet white male shitlords to last in perpetuity upon pain of losing your livelihood.

Temperance

Temperance is geared toward governing our appetites for sensible pleasure, whether it’s food, alcohol, or sex. If man is the rational animal, as Aristotle put it, then temperance is necessary for governing our animal natures. It ensures our will’s mastery over our base instincts


If we can’t moderate our own desires, then we cannot act rightly, render other men what is their due, or overcome adversity. In the New Testament, this virtue is often called “sobriety” and “moderation.” The results of intemperance should be obvious: grotesque obesity, raging alcoholism, or swimming in STDs. We admire people who dramatically change their physiques through diet and exercise because they are living examples of the virtue of temperance.

Fortitude

Fortitude is often used interchangeably with courage. Remember prudence though: it is a reasoned courage. It’s not foolhardiness or rashness. It’s the virtue that allows us to overcome our fears and remain steadfast in the pursuit of our goals.
Prudence and justice tell us what we must do, and fortitude gives us the strength to see it through. Christian martyrs, for example, do not actively seek martyrdom, unlike Islamic suicide bombers. But whether it’s the Religion of Peace, or the Soviet Union, or the Roman Empire, Christian history is rife with martyrs who peacefully went to their deaths rather than renounce their faith.
In the context of the United States, if you even mildly agree with anything written on Return of Kings or the manosphere, or the orthosphere where my fellow Traditionalists hang out, eventually the SJWs are going to come for you.


Don’t actively seek out to die on that hill, particularly if you have young children to feed. But if you’re ever in their crosshairs, never, ever back down under any circumstances. If you apologize, you’re going to lose your job anyway, only now you’ve lost your dignity besides

A Virtuous Man

The four cardinal virtues all work in tandem. Prudence identifies what is good, how to do what is good, and how to avoid evil. Justice ensures that we respect one another’s rights and fulfill our obligations and duties. Temperance gives us the self-control to forgo short-term pleasures in pursuit of our long-term goals. Fortitude will see us through to the end, whether we succeed or fail.
As St. Augustine put it:

To live well is nothing other than to love God with all one’s heart, with all one’s soul and with all one’s efforts; from this it comes about that love is kept whole and uncorrupted (through temperance). No misfortune can disturb it (and this is fortitude). It obeys only [God] (and this is justice), and is careful in discerning things, so as not to be surprised by deceit or trickery (and this is prudence).

Self-improvement entails more than building up our bodies. We must improve our spirits as well.


Wednesday, May 27, 2026

"The Prototype Lefties"

 

I saw this on Farcebook, the lady that wrote the article, her name is Kriztina Maria, she had commented that the cartoon was an A.I. cartoon, Personally I would have had a couple of heavily overweight lesbians surrounded by cats, otherwise it was accurate 😁.  Still working a lot, hence the scattered posting.





He calls himself a critical thinker but has never had an original thought. She calls herself brave but only dares to say what her tribe already agrees with.
They are rarely stable. Broken families, broken relationships, a broken relationship with reality. Often without children, or with children they use as political props. Their careers are either non-existent or anchored in the public sector, in NGOs, in universities, in the media. Places where you are rewarded for repeating the right phrases, not for producing anything of value.
They are outsiders. Not because the world has rejected them, but because they could never find their footing in the normal. The family, the faith, the nation, the community, ordinary life… it is all too small for them. Or rather, it is too big. They cannot handle it. So they hate it.
They find each other because they cannot find anyone else. A cluster of offended souls mirroring each other’s anger and calling it solidarity.
They need enemies to feel alive. The white man. The Christian. The Jew. The patriot. The mother who chooses the home. The father who chooses his family. Everything healthy must come down, because it reminds them of everything they are not.
They are the aristocracy of victimhood. Identity built on wounds, status measured in marginalization. The more broken, the more power. That is why they invent new offenses every week. Without offense, no identity. Without an enemy, no meaning.
And that is why they are dangerous. A human being without their own life, without real love, without God, without responsibility… that person will always seek power over others. They cannot build. They can only tear down. That is their only productive ability.
History has seen them before. Robespierre. The Red Guards. The Stasi informants. It is never the strong, the free, the loving people who build guillotines. It is the empty ones.
Right now, in the West, in 2026, the institutional Left is the more dangerous, because it holds the power.
The far Right shouts from the margins. The Left writes the laws, controls the schools, defines the language, decides who is allowed to say what.
They are a minority. The hard, activist Left makes up only 8-15% of the population in the West. But they dominate, because they are carried forward by the media, the universities, the NGOs, the cultural institutions and large parts of the public apparatus.
Their voice sounds bigger than it is, because they have captured the microphones, not the hearts.
The popular majority in the West is moving to the right, toward tradition, toward borders, toward common sense. That is why the Left is becoming more and more aggressive and talks so much about “democracy being under threat”.
But what they really mean is that their monopoly is under threat.
I can understand why they are on edge these days. Because once the people rise - and we do - they will be pulled up by the roots and thrown onto the dustbin of history, where they belong.
(Picture is obviously AI-generated, but matches reality.)

Tuesday, May 26, 2026

Monday Music (Yeah I know it's Tuesday, Work with me here) Huey Lewis and the News "Walking on a Thin Line."

 


 I had decided to do the "Vietnam" songs for a bit because my Dads Birthday was in late January and he would have been 82, yeah I still miss him and Memorial Day was Yesterday and he was one of many that I remember for Memorial Day.

  Vietnam was a taboo subject for a while the wounds that the conflict left on the American Psyche was deep.  We had won the battles but lost the war because we as a nation had lost the will to fight it thanks to the media and the hippies and the antiwar movement that was funded by the communist party and liberal donors.  it took several years before Vietnam could be discussed outside of the veterans.  My Dad is a Vietnam Veteran, he did a tour in 1968 and dealt with the tunnels of Cu-Chi and the Tet Offensive, then he returned in 1972 for a second tour.   For a while especially in the 1970's, the Vietnam vet was portrayed as crazy or dangerous.  The specter of Vietnam dogged every use of the Military or any support during the 1980's, from Grenada, to Beirut, to Honduras and Nicaragua.  The Ghost of Vietnam were finally laid to rest during Desert Storm. 


 

 I heard this song while I was in North Georgia College in the college ROTC program.  I thought it was a good song, although the critics didn't care for it.  I thought it told a good story about a GI and the Vietnam experience and the coming back home. and still "walking a thin line".  This came out the same time other songs were coming out about Vietnam.  

"Walking On A Thin Line" is a song performed by Huey Lewis and the News, released in 1984 as the fifth and final single from their 1983 album, Sports.



Considered one of the band's more "serious" songs, "Walking On A Thin Line" was written by Andre Pessis and Kevin Wells.The Sacramento Bee thought the song was about a veteran's post-war stress. However, the song is really about the thoughts of serving Vietnam War soldiers and veterans in the midst of the war.
In live performances, Lewis would often dedicate the song to the casualties of the war in Vietnam, as well as the veterans. During some live performances, ESPN personality Chris Berman, who is a fan of the band, has shown up as a surprise guest, singing the song with the band. Berman, who met the band at an ESPN tenth anniversary party,when describing football highlights on NFL Live, will sometimes reference the chorus to the song.


Reception for the song was very mixed. Christopher Connelly of Rolling Stone said that the song was "annoying", and added that, "wherein Lewis even sings "desperation" just like Men at Work's Colin Hay. The tune's a semistomper but is saddled with some repellent lines about a Vietnam serviceman–"I'm the boy next door/The one you find so easy to ignore/Is that what I was fighting for?"–that equate military service with Getting the Girl." Steve Morse of The Boston Globe thought that it was one of the band's more "serious" songs. Morse also thought that it was an "unusual piece" and that it was a "funky ode to Vietnam veterans"]Robert Draper of the Austin Chronicle said that it showed that Lewis could show "signs of awareness." The Arizona Daily Star said that the song showed the band's "modest abilities for rockin' out." Stephen Thomas Erlewine of Allmusic calls the song one of the songs on the album that has "memorable hooks, driven home with economical precision by a tight bar band, who are given just enough polish to make them sound like superstars."

 


In the United States, the song was the last single released from the album, Sports. It peaked at #18 on the Billboard Hot 100, the only single from the album not to reach the Top 10 on the Billboard charts. The song was a Top 20 hit on the Top Rock Tracks chart, peaking at #16. The single was released in Australia where it reached #70. 

Monday, May 25, 2026

 


This post is scheduled for Sunday afternoon on the Scheduler thingie.  I will not have a Monday Music like I normally do.  To me it would be inappropriate because it is Memorial Day.


    I'm going to explain "Memorial day" compared to the other holidays that involve the Military.

      Armed Forces Day honors those that are serving now.
      Veterans Day honors those of us that are no longer serving but still around to thank us for our    service.
   Memorial Day honors those of us that died in service to our country or those of us that have died since.
     To me Memorial day is a somber Holiday,  It gets worse the older I get because I attribute it to "survivors guilt".  We miss our comrades that will never grow old and one day we will join them.  Like I said, I attribute this to "survivors guilt" or basically why me and not them, why do I grow older and they don't.  What made me special that I lived and they didn't.  This goes through my mind and I just leave it to the guy upstairs because I figure that he still has plans for me. 
     I do what is called "Honor Guard" missions with my employer, where we greet all remains coming off the airplane with a flag line and a prayer.  I am honored to do that, been doing that since 2018. 
     I don't begrudge the people using the Memorial Day as an excuse for a vacation or the "Start of Summer".  At least they say the words "Memorial Day" in their conversations.  

There is a phrase I saw in the Movie "Gardens of Stone" that came out in 1987, and we started using it because it resonated with us. Here is  the trailer of the movie "Gardens of Stone".  I really like the movie partly it ties in with my Dads experiences because he was a member of the "Old Guard", although for him it was 1963-1964 for him.  He had told me that the things that the "Old Guard" did was accurately portrayed.


I hoist a glass of whatever beverage I drink on Memorial Day and say "Here's to us ...and those like us.....Damm few of us left."   I honor my friends that got killed during war and my friends that died after war from accidents, disease or suicide.


Friday, May 22, 2026

"Youth Wilding and the end of Civilization"

 

I call them "Amish" or the term bandied about is "MUY"  and that stands for "Minority Urban Youth" and that classification age wise goes all the way up to 25 years of age, according to media and academia and various activist groups.  They use that term to bash the cops about the head whenever one is "offed" by an officer for being "terminally Stupid", the death is used as a symbol of the cause.  The cause is to tear down Western civilization and install a Mao-marxist style of government in the name of "The People" but it will actually be for the benefit of the politicians and donors and the people rioting and looting are pure cannon fodder for the cause and will be used to get fired up for the next mob violence required for the cause.


Truth of the matter is that the people that riot and burn are the constitutes of the politicians and they provide political cover and and can act with impunity and loot and burn and nothing will happen for that reason.  






I'm not afraid to say it, the problem is mostly black youths in gangs and fatherless families, the sick welfare state, lack of prosecution and punishment, social media and the fake news that promote it. This is a serious growing epidemic that thrives in BLUE CITIES controlled by criminal loving dimocRATs. They certainly have a hard time putting black youths in jail. Citizens must finally rise up against the politicians that are allowing this trend to continue.
Youth Wilding And The End Of Civilization
By: SAM FADDIS
In 532 AD in Constantinople, the capital of the Byzantine Empire, rival gangs of young people associated with different sports clubs dominated public spaces and increasingly turned to violence.
They brawled, ambushed, and rioted. They defied authority. They terrorized innocent citizens. Then they threatened to bring down the system entirely.
On January 13, 532 the Blues and the Greens youth groups, united intent on taking control of the city itself. For almost a week, they succeeded. Large areas of the city were burned. Officials were killed. Homes were looted. It took the army to retake the city, and in the end, 30,000 people lay dead.
We may be headed in the same direction ourselves
All over America, young blacks in gangs, BLM supporters and young white ANTIFA members, some barely in their teens, are increasingly taking over public spaces and turning to violence. This trend began in inner cities, where swarms of young people began to coordinate their activities via social media and then appear in huge numbers, attacking people at random, robbing stores, and vandalizing personal property. It is no longer confined to such areas, however. The phenomenon is now moving out into the suburbs.
The problem is getting worse, and the level of violence involved is escalating. Municipalities respond with a mixture of curfews and increased police patrols, but none of this addresses the real problem. None of this recognizes the societal basis for this “wilding.”
The problem is our society. The problem is us. We have waged war on the family to the point that in places like Baltimore, 65% of black kids live in single-parent homes. Almost all these single parents are women. There is no father in the home. There never was. “Dad” left the moment he finished impregnating “Mom.” Consider that in 1960, when segregation was in full force across America, only 20% of black children lived in single-parent homes.
What does that say about the "Great Society" and its immense welfare programs? ALL FAILURES!
We might want to take a hard look at our welfare policies and consider that what we are doing is causing more harm than good.
We have demonized the police. We have branded them as oppressors and racists and glorified those who resist arrest and target law enforcement. We have taught our kids to be hooligans.
We have glorified moral relativism. Right and wrong do not exist. God does not exist. Decency does not exist. You should do whatever turns you on and makes you feel good.
We have preached victimization. Nothing is your fault. Everything is someone else’s fault. Stealing is now simply the “redistribution” of wealth. If you are looting a store, you are not a criminal. You are simply collecting the reparations due to you for some perceived wrong you have suffered.
Society is sick. Our children’s behavior is a symptom of something much more profound. We need to face that and correct course before we suffer the same fate as the Byzantines. The wilding of our youth is a sign of the impending end of civilization – unless we do something to prevent it.

Thursday, May 21, 2026

An Ode to Battleships Past and Future..

 

I shamelessly clipped this from Tom Kratman and farcebook a couple days ago. I thought it was a pretty good post.  I have blogged a bit about "Battleships" in the past on my blog.


In Starship Troopers Heinlein listed as one of the branches possibly open to Rico, "Combat Ecology." I've always thought that referred not to saving the interstellar snail darter, but the relationship between weapons systems and tactics that advance some groups and depress or eliminate the use of others.
Hence, this very thoughtful peace from Quora on, though the author didn't phrase it that way, the combat ecology of the battleship:
Could a modern navy build a new class of battleships, or would such vessels be obsolete?
Eric Husher, former Senior Balkan Intelligence Analyst (1992-1996)
Answered Feb 12 · Upvoted by Olan Prentice, Veteran at United States Navy
The short answer is ‘no,’ as I will explain.
I think one of the more pernicious myths is that ‘the battleship was made obsolete by the aircraft carrier and has no function today.’ You see this in book after book, but a closer examination of the facts indicates otherwise.
It is important to understand a few things about battleships before talking about ‘obsolescence’ or aircraft carriers, and the FIRST thing to know is that battleships are the direct descendants of the ‘line of battle’ of Nelson’s time. In other words, they were NEVER intended to operate alone, or as ‘a pair,’ but as a SQUADRON of no fewer than four, and preferably more, with the squadron being considered the minimum necessary to conduct all maneuvering evolutions. Squadrons would be combined to produce fleets, and it was the squadron that was used as the minimum tactical unit for battleships. This ‘understanding’ held true until WW2, when events forced navies to use battleships otherwise, and with invariably poor results.
The next thing to know is that battleships were not just intended to deliver powerful blows (like modern warships), but to RECEIVE and WITHSTAND powerful blows as well (unlike modern warships), and thus, could not just ‘stand in the line,’ but STAY in the line regardless of multiple hits. It was this dual function that produced the international naval armaments race prior to WW1, as newer and stronger forms of armor and design were developed, and at the same time, newer and more powerful naval guns were successively produced to defeat that armor. Such ships produced from the 1880’s until the end of the ‘battleship era’ at the conclusion of WW2, were rapidly made obsolete by these rapid advances, such that a battleship might only have a useful life of less than ten years before being superceded by a much more powerful version, and of course, this was a VERY expensive proposition. As well, the logistics tail necessary to produce a battleship, its armor, engines and weaponry was likewise very expensive and quite specialized in nature and with little application outside the production of more battleships. Consider the equipment necessary to found, forge, and roll out enormous plates of armor steel as much as 16″ thick, and you get some idea what I am talking about.
This ‘process’ and ‘race’ by nations to create the ‘ultimate’ battlefleet found its ultimate expression just before WW1 with the invention and production of the ‘dreadnoughts;’ heavily plated with armor belts up to 14″ thick, oil-fired turbine engines to produce a minimum speed of 20 knots, and an ‘all-big gun’ armament of eight or more guns firing 11″ to 15″ diameter shells as much as 20 KM to hit their targets. These dreadnought battleships, and their dreadnought battlecruiser escorts proved their worth and lived up to their reputations in WW1, but because they WERE so expensive to produce, and any losses would represent such a loss of national treasure, there was a fair bit of concern as to how boldly they might be used. The Germans in particular (because they were outnumbered by the British navy), were loath to ‘commit’ their fleet in anything other than an opportunity whereby they might outnumber the British by trying to isolate a squadron or two of British ships that they might then destroy with their own numbers. The British attempted numerous times to achieve the same effect, but at the end of the day, there were really only three significant clashes between the behemoths, at the Falklands, Dogger Bank, and of course, Jutland.
The ‘performance’ of the battleships in the clashes can be considered not just by the amount of hits achieved, and damage inflicted, but by the number of times these ships were hit and did NOT simply explode or immediately sink, but in fact ‘stayed in the line’ and returned home in some cases wounded, but alive. The German battlescruisers were each hit by as many as 28 heavy shells of 12″, 13.5″ and 15″ shells, yet CONTINUED to fight and return damage of their own (three British battlecruisers were sunk that day, in return for the loss of but one German battlecruiser).
Such was the concern over the capabilities and expense of these ships, that after the war, long thought was given to the need to restrict the building of further battleships, and the reduction in the number of existing battleships both as a means of ‘improving the chances for a lasting peace,’ but more importantly, to protect the nations from bankruptcy. The goal of these various treaties and negotiations was to produce national fleets that were much smaller than those of the Great War and prior, with the leading nations restricted to no more than two or three battleship squadrons, depending on the nation involved (the US got three squadrons, as did the Brits, but the Japanese were only allowed two, the French and Italians one each, and the Germans NONE).
By the middle of the 1930’s, many of these battleships were becoming quite elderly, and replacements were designed on much more modern principles, with serious thought given to the threat of air-power. It is concurrent with this period that the first fleet aircraft carriers became fully operational. Because of the reduced size of the battleship fleets available, some nations, particularly the Japanese considered that the only way to achieve the kind parity necessary to fight on an equal footing was through increasing the size, firepower and armor of any new ships built. This was the origin of the ‘Yamato’ class super-battleships. Other countries like the US and Britain were similarly concerned, but with more modest ideas, such as the American ‘North Carolina’ class, and the British ‘Rodney’ class. Other nations were concerned with the rise of such threats as the German ‘pocket battleships’ of the ‘Graf Spee’ class (which in reality were not much more than rather slow heavy cruisers), producing a couple new battlecruisers of the ‘Dunkerque’ class, but generally speaking, none of these materially increased the sizes of the fleets concerned, and with the restrictions on battleship production, all navies turned to the ‘Heavy Cruiser’ as their means for fleet expansion, and just as was the case prior to WW1, produced yet another ‘arms race’ to produce the most capable heavy cruisers possible within the treaty tonnage regulations.
The result of all of this was two-fold; the remaining battleships were now even MORE precious than they were during WW1, and many of the ‘tasks’ previously assigned to battleship or battlecruiser squadrons were now assigned to the heavy cruisers, and all the while the aircraft carriers became more capable and more dangerous, with the actual ‘threat’ being brought home by the British at Taranto, and the Japanese at Pearl Harbor.
NOTE: At this early point in WW2, battleships were now being deployed in pairs, not squadrons, both because of the lack of available battleships, and the concurrent loss of OPPOSING battle squadrons. This was the case for the Bismarck’s first and final cruise, opposed by a battleship and a battlecruiser (Hood), the latter of which was sunk by the German guns, but the Bismarck after escaping further attacks by the British battleship, was tracked down first crippled by aircraft torpedoes, and then finished off by a combined squadron of battleships, heavy cruisers and destroyers. Bismarck was ALONE. The Italians had a number of sorties with their battleships, invariably in pairs, and they accomplished little when faced by a similar number of British battleships and cruisers accompanied by aircraft carriers, and it was this that became the key to the future, the combined ‘task force.’
In the Pacific, the severe blow against the US battleship fleet by the Japanese as well as the British loss of a battleship and battlecruiser (again, operating ALONE and without air support) meant that there were essentially too many areas to cover to allow for the kind of ‘squadron operations’ for which the battleships were designed, and instead, the fast battleships were deployed singly, or in pairs as escorts for carrier task forces, and the heavy cruisers took up the tasks that once would have been assigned to battleships. As such the battleships were not really intended to provide ‘surface support,’ though of course that would be readily available in the event of a surface attack, but instead to use their formidable air defenses to cover the carrier from air attack, and in this role, the American battleships eventually ruled supreme. On the Japanese side, while they would often provide a ‘Kongo’ class battleship to escort carrier groups, the Japanese never assembled the kind of ‘task forces’ made so effective by the Americans. Part of the reason for this was the Japanese did NOT want to expose their battleships to situations where they might be lost individually, but preferring to keep them ‘in reserve’ for what they hoped would be a climactic ‘final battle’ in which they WOULD be used in squadrons against a weakened American fleet.
But here comes the interesting and notable part. When the Japanese finally DID deploy their battleships in squadrons (Leyte Gulf to the battle of Samar), they were duly attacked by swarms of American aircraft, HUNDREDS of American aircraft, equipped with 500 and 1000 lb bombs and torpedoes too. But only ONE of the Japanese battleships (‘Musashi’) was STOPPED by the aircraft, and only after receiving 19 torpedoes, and 17 heavy bomb hits over three continuous hours of air strikes before she was sunk! ANY of these kind of hits would have stopped, or even sunk most modern warships, and in the MEANTIME, the REST of the Japanese battleships and cruisers proceeded to their destination and point of attack. Yes, these ships were eventually driven off by hundreds more American planes, but no more battleships were lost in this quadrant, and they RETURNED to Japan for further use. Further South, a PAIR of Japanese battleships accompanied by heavy cruisers managed to escape the attentions of the American aircraft and proceeded down Surigao Straight by night, with the idea of attacking the American landing force from the rear. Unfortunately, they were met by… TWO SQUADRONS of American battleships, in a classic ‘line of battle,’ and after a number of broadside salvoes, BOTH Japanese battleships were SUNK, the cruisers were damaged and several destroyers likewise sunk. ‘See the difference?’
In a different scenario, that also involved waves of carrier aircraft flying against battleships, the example of the ‘Marianas Turkey shoot’ otherwise known as the ‘Battle of the Philippine Sea’ provides yet another example of the relative inability of aircraft against battleships. In this case, the American fleet was steaming North for the preliminaries of the invasion of the Philippines, and this brought the last big effort by the Japanese carrier forces to bear. However, while their primary targets were the big American carriers, in order to GET to them, they had to fly over an American battleship squadron and cruiser/destroyer task force in a ‘ring’ formation that stretched over tens of miles. As the waves of Japanese attack planes flew over, they were MOWN down by battleship anti-aircraft fire using ‘proximity fuses,’ and hundreds of Japanese planes were shot down before they ever arrived in the vicinity of the American carriers. Once again, battleships operating as a squadron at sea are a devastating force to contend with.
So what HAPPENED at the end of WW2? Why were no new battleships built, if they were such powerful warships? TWO things happened; the first being the atomic bomb, which was used in several tests against anchored fleets to see ‘what would happen,’ and the results were pretty devastating, even though many of the battleships so employed actually SURVIVED the tests. The second was the fact that, other than the United States and the UK, no one else HAD any battleships to speak of, let alone ‘squadrons.’ Britain finished ONE new battleship after the war (Vanguard), and the French had one, and finished another (Richelieu and Jean Bart), but their industries were largely destroyed by the war, and Britain’s economy was destroyed by the war, all heavy industry in Europe was destroyed by the war, and the Soviet Union was likewise devastated. At the same time, the US at this point now had 12 modern fast battleships, and a bunch of old ones (soon to be decommissioned), and an untouched industrial base and economy too. In other words, there was NO ONE ‘available’ to provide any naval competition, and with the Brits rapidly decommissioning and scrapping its battleships, soon to be followed by France, there was simply no CHALLENGE to the mighty American battlefleet. But battleships are expensive to maintain, and expensive to man, and as we already had an unrivalled fleet of aircraft carriers, there seemed to be no further USE for the battleships, and one by one they were put into mothballs, scrapped, or turned into ‘memorials.’ At the same time, the steel industries, now no longer needed to produce battleships, quickly scrapped the heavy and expensive equipment needed to build them, and by the mid-1960’s there was no longer the CAPABILITY to ‘build battleships,’ even if we wanted to. It is for this reason the last and most modern class of American battleship, the ‘New Jersey’ class, have REMAINED in operational condition, and in fact, they have been dragged out of mothballs and recommissioned several times since WW2, including Korea, Vietnam, and their last deployment was for the First Gulf War. That is not an ‘indication’ that battleships or the battleship concept is any way ‘obsolete,’ because regardless of whether a weapon delivery system consists of a heavy shell, or a bomb, torpedo or even missile, the fact STILL remains that these are ALL designed to deliver a large explosive against a warship, even if the delivery ‘method’ is different. In EVERY case, the battleship REMAINS ‘standing in the line’ if hit by ANY such, not just once or twice, but again and again, and that can NEVER be considered ‘obsolete.’




ANd here is the information from "Wiki" about the proposed "Trump Class Battleships"

Personally to me the Jury is out on that class of ship, as much as I would like to see one.