"The Death of a Donut Dollie"

   This one made me miss my Dad, this was his Division in Vietnam and he became "EL-CID" after his tour.  This happened after my Dad rotated back to the world but he would have known some of the background of the case that I could have plugged into the blogpost.....Damm I miss him. 

   *This was supposed to drop this morning*, but I messed up the time

    

This is where it all began. The Tropic Lightning Academy was the entry point for all replacements to the 25th Infantry Division and its base camp at Cu Chi, Republic of Vietnam. New arrivals sat in bleacher seats and heard the somber words of seasoned veterans lecture on about what to expect. The Academy was situated within the confines of camp headquarters and had a view of the Donut Dollies billet. On this day, a sign was hung at the billet doorway that read “Welcome Virginia”, giving all assembled the name of someone they would like to meet. The orientation droned on! Everyone was anxious to meet Virginia. Finally, after hours of drilling details of division legend and lore, a petite young girl in a powder blue dress stepped to the front of the bleachers and was introduced by the Donut Dollie in charge. “I would like you to meet our newest arrival – Miss Virginia Kirsch”. The new girl looked up at the assembled troops and simply said – “You can call me Ginny”.

Virginia (Ginny) Kirsch was born on December 2, 1948, in Erie, PA. She had four sisters and two brothers in her family. Her father was a co-owner of a men’s clothing store. Her mother was a high school English teacher. Ginny graduated from Brookfield High School in 1966 and from Miami University of Ohio in 1970. For a brief period, she taught English and Religion at Badin Senior High School in Hamilton, Ohio. In July of 1970, Ginny attended Red Cross training classes in Washington D.C. and arrived in Vietnam about two weeks later. After a brief period of orientation in Saigon, Ginny was ordered to report to the American Red Cross at Cu Chi.

The Donut Dollies

Red Cross Donut Dollie, Susan Bradshaw McLean

Donut Dollies were American Red Cross volunteers who had heard the nation’s call to serve their country at a time of war. They were young women with college degrees from all across America. At the request of the military, the Red Cross sent teams of young women to Vietnam to operate Red Cross Recreation Centers and to conduct audience-participation programs for men stationed in isolated sections of the country. Approximately 280 thousand servicemen took part in these recreation programs. The women traveled 27,000 miles by jeep, truck, airplane, and helicopter each month. Red Cross officials estimate that during the seven years the program was in operation, the women logged over two million miles.

A Bad Place To Be

The experience of Vietnam always began with the plane ride. Upon sight of the South China Sea and the coastline of Vietnam, all aboard became noticeably quiet. The wisecracks and bravado of the American GIs quickly subsided. In its place, soldiers came face-to-face with the stark reality that destiny now controlled their lives. The stewardesses, so playful and carefree early on, sat sullen in their landing seats and contemplated the soldiers’ fate. They had given their all to help these young men endure the ever-so-long flight. “They are in God’s hands now. Please protect them and bring them home safe and sound.”

There are two things that one remembers when the plane door opens. The first is the sledgehammer impact of stale, hot air on your face and skin. The open door instantly sucks all the cool air out of the cabin. The second sensation arrives the moment you step down the metal stairs to the runway. “What is that awful smell?” You are escorted with haste through a billowing black cloud to the awaiting transport. The sight you see is equal to the smell. A Vietnamese worker (or a disciplined GI) is hauling a burning oil drum across the tarmac. A nearby latrine has recently been relieved of its human waste, doused with JP4 jet fuel, and set ablaze. The pungent odor that permeates the nostrils and lungs is unforgettable to this day. Even without the war, Vietnam would be a dangerous place. The country is rife with snakes, spiders, mosquitoes, rats, and leeches. Its weather is either monsoon rain or dust bowl dry. The American GI quickly realizes that he doesn’t belong there. Even a Donut Dollie, emboldened with patriotism, has to question what the future holds.

Field Operations - August 15, 1970

Back in Cu Chi on the following day, Ginny and another girl headed out by helicopter to a Special Forces camp at a firebase near Katum. It was located within a few miles of the Cambodian border. It was Ginny’s first opportunity to do what she was there to do. She clowned around with the troops, posed for photographs and movie pictures, and generally made everyone just love her. She was in her element. It was an exhausting visit, but certainly a memorable one.

On the return flight to camp, the helicopter pilot received orders to visit an infantry platoon of the 25th Infantry on Nui Ba Den, (i.e. Black Virgin Mountain). At first, the troopers wanted no part of the fun and games that the girls had come to deliver. When the platoon leader in charge told Ginny that his men were not interested, Ginny asked the lieutenant to “just let her try”. After a quick hello and glow from her, the men were hooked. They welcomed her warmly and played her silly little games.

On the flight back to camp, the helicopter pilot asked her out for a date. She was caught off-guard with the unexpected attention. She was there for duty and country, not dates. But she did not want to rock the boat in her first week, so she nodded okay. They agreed to meet at the officers’ club that night. Ginny wondered what this unanticipated attention would do to her mission there.

Back In the World

In 1970, the United States military in Vietnam reflected an ever-changing mixture of soldiers rotating in and out of the country. With designated tours of 12 or 13 months, there were thousands of GIs on the move every day. You would see green troops arriving and brown troops departing each day of the year. For an American soldier, there was never a good day to arrive or a bad day to leave.

With the composition of the military in a continual state of flux, the problems of America at home were quickly reflected as problems for the military in Vietnam. Civilians with problems at home now became soldiers with problems at war. It should be no surprise that everything bad about America could be found in Vietnam.

Although the Vietnam War was in its late stages by 1970, the war machine continued to require fresh recruits to meet its operational requirements. The first troop withdrawals began in July of 1969, with an announced withdrawal of 40,000 expected by Christmas 1970. There were a number of factors that affected the quality of the new recruits. First and foremost would be the seismic shift in sentiment about the righteousness of the war. In the latter half of 1969, hundreds of thousands participated in antiwar demonstrations across the United States. The fateful culmination of national protest was the Kent State shootings on May 4, 1970. Ohio National Guardsmen fired on student protestors, killing four students and wounding nine others.

By the summer of 1970, there was little inclination for eligible military candidates to risk life and limb for what was, at best, a questionable cause. Inequities in the Selective Service System drove many of the best candidates to National Guard and Army Reserve enlistment. Many others fled to Canada. Some were coerced into enlistment by offers of favorable occupational specialties or training. All thoughts were to take whatever actions were necessary to avoid service in Vietnam. There were numerous reports of unethical recruiters offering enlistment deals that could not possibly be honored. Some recruits signed up for three-year Army enlistments in order to avoid jail time for petty crimes and misdemeanors. Others were promised occupational specialties for which they could not possibly qualify.

The US military in Vietnam was afflicted with all of the societal problems of America back home. Drug use in America had quickly evolved from recreational use to mainline addiction. Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin were premier performers at the Woodstock Festival in upstate New York in August of 1969. Marijuana and LSD were the refreshments of choice during those days. No one in attendance could have imagined that both Jimi and Janis would be dead of drug overdose by the end of the following year. Drug use, more than any other problem, had become a major destabilizing force to troop discipline and operational effectiveness in Vietnam.

Donut Dollies were not typical of the times. They were emboldened by Kennedy-era ideals about service to their country. They wanted to do something important. The Vietnam War was a noble cause fought by America’s noblest. What better place to make a difference in the world.

The Murder - August 16, 1970

The major was awakened with a shout. The enlisted man standing over him was frantic. “A Donut Dollie has been killed. An MP with a jeep will take you down to the morgue”.

The base camp was utter pandemonium. People were running. Lights were flashing. Sirens were blaring. Everything was moving much too fast. The girl’s name was Ginny. She had been in base camp only a day or two. How could this happen?
Official investigative reports of the homicide state that at approximately 3:50 AM, August 16 1970, an occupant of the American Red Cross billet observed a man run from the back door of Kirsch’s room. She entered Kirsch’s room and observed Kirsch on the floor with stab wounds to the throat, left side, left arm, and left finger. Kirsch was transported to the 25th Medical Battalion Dispensary and was pronounced dead from the stab wounds. She was not sexually molested. Kirsch’s remains were released to the 25th Infantry Division Graves Registration for medical examination.

There were two military policemen on duty at the time of the incident. One was on duty at a static post at the front gate to the billeting area. The other was on duty in the area and talking to the front gate guard when they observed a man force the rear gate of the billeting area open and escape. A US Army survival knife was found at the scene.

The witness at the scene described the fleeing subject as a male Caucasian, dark hair, 5’10”, 160 lbs., age approximately 23, wearing white t-shirt, white trousers, and a dark jacket.

The Suspects Roger A. Christian

On November 4, 1970, Christian was administered a polygraph examination. He showed deception. He then verbally admitted to crime investigators that, on the morning of August 16, 1970, he was high on heroin and looking for a place to sleep. He walked into some billets, a dark room, and was surprised by the occupant. Christian said that he remembered stabbing a girl with a knife and left the room.

On November 9, 1970, Christian was charged with unpremeditated murder.

On January 17, 1971, the eyewitness at the crime scene failed to identify Christian in a physical line-up at Ft. McPherson, Georgia.

On February 24, 1971, all charges were dismissed against Christian because of insufficient evidence and he was discharged from Army service.

Gregory W. Kozlowski

On the morning of August16, 1970, Kozlowski was found in possession of a tape recorder and camera which was stolen from the Red Cross billets between 1:00 – 3:50 AM that day. These items were the property of the witness at the crime scene who lived three doors from Ginny’s room. A few days later, Kozlowski became a murder suspect as well. On August 21, and again on August 25, Kozlowski was included in two line-ups. The eyewitness failed to identify him in each of those lineups.

Shortly thereafter, Kozlowski was medically evacuated to Japan with a diagnosis of mental illness. While the Army's investigation was in progress, Kozlowski was placed on convalescent leave in the United States. He was granted immunity by the Commanding General, 25th Infantry Division, with respect to the larceny offense in order to provide possible information regarding the homicide.

On October 21, 1970, Kozlowski shot himself. After initial medical treatment, he was transferred to Letterman Army General Hospital, at the Presidio, San Francisco. Because there was evidence of mental illness, his case was referred to a medical board for psychiatric evaluation.

On January 9, 1971, this board determined that Kozlowski was unable to adhere to right and wrong at the time of the murder and, further, that he was unable to cooperate intelligently in his own defense. Because the latter finding precluded trial until he was able to cooperate in his defense and because the former effectively precluded conviction, the charges were dismissed by the convening authority. Meanwhile, further Army investigation had implicated Gregory Kozlowski in the Kirsch murder. On January17, 1971, the eye witness identified Kozlowski in a pictorial line-up as the person she saw leaving Kirsch’s room the morning of the murder.

A different medical board was convened to determine whether Kozlowski was fit to remain on active duty. It determined that he was not, and he was therefore placed on the Temporary Disabled Retired List and his medical records were transferred to the Veterans hospital at Wood, Wisconsin, where Kozlowski was sent for further inpatient care. The charges against Kozlowski were not dismissed because of any lack of evidence but rather because of his mental incompetence, both at the time of the incident and at the time charges were preferred. In view of the findings of the medical evaluation board, it was concluded that there was little else the Army could do with respect to Gregory Kozlowski.

The Dodge County Sheriff Edwin E. Nehls

On June 8, 1972, Gregory Kozlowski was arrested for the murder of Kenneth A. Glasse, 21 years old, of Milwaukee. On June 19, he was charged with first-degree murder and detained in Dodge County Jail under the jurisdiction of Sheriff Nehls. Later that evening, Kozlowski asked to speak with the sheriff on a matter of utmost urgency. Kozlowski admitted to the sheriff that he was guilty of another crime of homicide, the slaying of a Red Cross girl in Cu Chi, South Vietnam, on August 16, 1970.

Immediately after Kozlowski made the admission on June 19, the sheriff contacted military sources in Washington, who confirmed that on August 16, 1970, a Red Cross girl by the name of Virginia Kirsch had been stabbed to death in her bedroom at Cu Chi. Military sources revealed to the sheriff that no one had been convicted of the murder. However, they said they had suspects and that Kozlowski was a suspect in the Virginia Kirsch case. The sheriff informed the authorities that he had documented information in the Kirsch case, made by Kozlowski.

On September 6, military officials advised Sheriff Nehls that were closing the case, as they were convinced that Kozlowski was responsible for the death.

On September 19, Sheriff Nehls called Max Kirsch, father of Virginia Kirsch, in Brookfield, Ohio, and relayed the information to him. According to Mr. Kirsch, he had not been contacted by any other authority about the latest developments. The sheriff told Mr. Kirsch that he had held this vital information for the past three months and felt he had an obligation to advise Virginia Kirsch’s parents.

As regards the first-degree murder charge in the Glasse case, Kozlowski entered a plea of not guilty and not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect. He subsequently underwent several rounds of mental examination, the results of which indicated to the Court that Kozlowski was capable of standing trial on the murder charge. Kozlowski was ultimately found to be mentally ill. He has spent his entire adult life in mental health institutions within the State of Wisconsin.

After years of treatment and therapy, the psychiatric doctors deemed Kozlowski to no longer be a threat to either himself or others. On January 22, 2008, the Circuit Court granted Kozlowski a conditional release to a group home in Milwaukee. There has been no further information regarding his whereabouts since that date.

Tragedy or Travesty

Virginia (Ginny) Kirsch loved her country. Ginny was quoted by the American Red Cross in Saigon as having said “I felt that I could do something for the men over here and for my country.”

The wanton loss of human life is an unwelcome product of war. There are always unintended consequences of military conflict. For the most part, the military goes to extraordinary lengths to account for all such events. We are well aware of detailed investigations of alleged atrocities or friendly fire. So why is it that a 21-year old civilian woman can be brutally murdered at Division Headquarters, in a billet protected by armed guards, and no one is held accountable? It took two and a half months to identify one suspect while another suspect was permitted to leave the country shortly after the murder. Was the US Army in Vietnam in such disarray at that time that it just dropped the ball? Or was there more to it than that?

There is no indication that the American Red Cross pressed the Military Assistance Command, Vietnam (MACV) to apprehend and prosecute Ginny’s killer. On the contrary, by all outward appearances, condolences were expressed, memorial services abroad and at home were held, and it was back to business as usual. If Ginny’s death had been an unfortunate accident, one could understand this response. But Ginny’s death was not an accident. It was murder! What was the organization’s responsibility to seek a full accounting of Ginny’s murder? How could this organization, in good conscience, continue to recruit, train, and send young women to Vietnam, knowing these women could not be adequately protected? What was their responsibility to the women who were already serving there? Sad isn't it?

George F. Slook, E-5
4th Infantry Division
Pleiku and An Khe
1969-1970

This article originally appeared on: https://www.war-stories.com/donut-dollie-murder-of-ginny-kirsch-1970.htm

 

Thanksgiving 2021

 This is loaded into the scheduler thingie, I have to work...Unfortunately my job is that the flying public wants to get somewhere and my employer prides itself on the reliability and timeliness of our fleet, and maintenance cancellations are a nono. So enjoy the Turkey, Ham or whatever, I will be home later to get leftovers ;)

                              For those that already have their Christmas lights up .....

 Go out and enjoy Thanksgiving, Ignore the people trying to scare the crap out of you to not get together with your family because of "fears".  We are not guaranteed tomorrow, and to deny time with your family because of "fears" is a crappy thing to do to them.  Have fun, spend time with your family and friends, watch the Cowboys and the Lions play football.. Traditions.....It is what make us Americans....And tell the powers that be to pound sand...

  Remember to have fun, enjoy the camaraderie of Family and Friends and don't talk politics, unless your liberal Aunt or Uncle start it, then have fun stirring things up, LOL

I clipped this compliments of alex@ammo.com
Thanksgiving is the oldest national holiday in the United States. However, it’s observation is not a continuous presence in American history. While the celebration of Thanksgiving predates even the founding of the nation, it was proclaimed by George Washington, then ignored by Thomas Jefferson. From then on, it was sporadically observed until Abraham Lincoln, who once again introduced a National Day of Prayer and Thanksgiving to the United States.
Indeed, it was Lincoln who set the day as the last Thursday in November. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt changed the day between 1939 and 1941, which was highly controversial. The days were called “Franksgiving.” Roosevelt changed the date because retailers communicated to him through the Retail Dry Goods Association and the Secretary of Commerce, that the late date of Thanksgiving that year (the last day of November) might negatively impact retail sales. It was considered bad form to put up Christmas decorations or put on Christmas sales before Thanksgiving.
If only we still lived in such times.
In 1942, Congress set Thanksgiving as the fourth Thursday of the month, and here it has stood since then.

The Early Days of Thanksgiving

Harvest feasts date back centuries, with the earliest “thanksgiving” celebrations in the New World dating to the 16th Century with the French and the Spanish. The Commonwealth of Virginia had regular celebrations of this type dating back to 1607. The first permanent settlement, Jamestown, Virginia, had a thanksgiving celebration in the year of its founding, 1610. 
Of course, anytime someone says “Thanksgiving,” one immediately thinks of the Pilgrims. “Thanksgiving” as we know it is generally dated back to when the Pilgrims first celebrated it in 1621. This was in response to a successful harvest, however, it was not the first of a consistent celebration. The Pilgrims celebrated this only sporadically.
No one is entirely sure when the Thanksgiving celebration took place. There was a three-day celebration following their harvest, sometime between September 21 and November 11, with the Feast of Michaelmas (September 29) being the most likely date. We do, however, know that all 50 surviving Mayflower passengers were there, as well as 90 Native Americans. The feast was cooked primarily by four women, all of whom were on the Mayflower. Two years later, in 1623, following another boat of colonists arriving, the first civil (not religious) Thanksgiving took place in July.

The Revolution to the Civil War

The day of national Thanksgiving jumped around until the founding of the nation. During the late Colonial period, the Continental Congress merely recommended the day be celebrated by the various colonies. Samuel Adams drafted the first national proclamation, issued in 1777 – something to remember when you tip back one of his beers while watching the game. Revolutionary Commander General George Washington set the date in December of that year to celebrate early revolutionary victories. 
In 1789, President George Washington would proclaim November 26, 1789, to be a National Day of Prayer and Thanksgiving. This day also provides the roots for America’s National Day of Prayer. In 1795, Thanksgiving was celebrated, again by presidential proclamation, on February 19. President John Adams continued the tradition in 1798 and 1799. The tradition was undone by deist and skeptic President Thomas Jefferson. President James Madison revived the tradition in 1814, but it remained sporadic until the Civil War. Many governors proclaimed celebrations statewide. 
In November 1863, however, President Lincoln made the celebration national again. He was inspired by an editorial series written by “Mary Had a Little Lamb” author Sarah Josepha Hale. Secretary of State William H. Seward wrote the proclamation. During this period, traditions were regional and some of the food is decidedly not what we would consider to be traditional Thanksgiving fare today (pigeon pie, for example).

Franksgiving

Franksgiving is one of those things like the court-packing plan that made FDR’s opponents squeal with laughter. FDR’s moving of the date of Thanksgiving caused his opponent in the previous election, Alf Landon, to compare him to Hitler. James Frasier, chairman of the Plymouth, Massachusetts board of selectmen heartily disapproved of the change. 
The change caused a number of problems, not least of all holiday travel plans. Football teams around the nation played before empty stadiums because they couldn’t change their schedule. Many games were cancelled. In what is a familiar scenario to anyone who has followed 21st-century politics, Democrats narrowly supported Franksgiving (52 to 48), Republicans widely despised it (79 to 21) and most of America didn’t like it (62 to 38). 
All told, 23 states and the District of Columbia recognized the new date, while 22 preferred the traditional date. The remaining three (Colorado, Texas and Mississippi) went with both dates, meaning there was plenty of time off for everyone. In 1940, 32 states and the nation’s capital went with Franksgiving, while the remaining 16 opted for what was called “Republican Thanksgiving.”
A report from the Department of Commerce issued in 1941, found that there was no difference in retail sales due to the day of the month. Indeed, barely more than a third of all retailers even observed Franksgiving. What’s more, only two out of every seven Thanksgivings would fall on a fifth Thursday rather than a fourth. Still, a joint resolution of Congress, signed into law by President Roosevelt, permanently moved the date to the fourth Thursday, where it has stood ever since. Most states concurred, and while revelry was on the back burner thanks to the war, Thanksgiving in its final form took root by 1945. 
If you ever find yourself watching the Merrie Melodies cartoon Holiday Highlights, you’ll notice a reference to two different Thanksgivings – one for Republicans and one for Democrats – that will now make sense to you. 
Texas was the last state to observe the traditional “last Thursday” Thanksgiving in 1956.

Thanksgiving Haters

While it has its roots in European harvest festivals, there is perhaps no more quintessentially American holiday than Thanksgiving. Americans eat more food this day than they will any other day of the year, including the Fourth of July and Christmas Day. Unsurprisingly, there are people who think that the celebration of Thanksgiving is shameful and should be abandoned. 
Both liberal college professors and some Native American activists believe the traditional story of Thanksgiving has been whitewashed by conquerors. They believe in replacing the day with a National Day of Atonement and fasting. Other prominent Native Americans such as Tim Giago, who founded the Native American Journalists Organization, believe that the celebration of Thanksgiving is a synthesis of both European and Native American traditions and is, as such, uniquely American. 
The rest of us, however, will enjoy stuffing ourselves with turkey, slipping into a tryptophan coma, and waking up just in time to catch the big game or the parade. Real Americans, as it turns out, would much rather enjoy a day off than complain

 

Kyle Rittenhouse Victory is a Victory for all of US.

 

 

 If Kyle had been found Guilty, it would have made any Self Defense claim much harder to prove because prosecutors would have used the legal precedents set by the Rittonhouse trial to try any of us especially if we tried to defend us our family against the "Soldiers of Soros" A.K.A BLM or Antifa when the next time they throw a temper Tantrum and decide to loot, Burn, assault and murder in furtherance of the goals of the state and the donks.

 

Over the past two weeks, I found myself overly invested - perhaps even a bit obsessed - with the murder trial of Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha, Wisconsin. Like all or most of you, I watched in horror as a corrupt prosecution team actively tried to put a teenager in prison for life for the ‘crime’ of defending himself against lunatics who were actively trying to kill him during a violent riot that should never have happened in the first place. Though they had zero actual facts on their side - a fact that became increasingly obvious as the trial progressed - these denizens of hell still pressed on, tossing theory after theory against the wall and hoping one would stick and manipulate, er, ‘convince’ the jury to falsely imprison a clearly innocent person.

I was so invested, in fact, that at times it almost felt like I was the one on trial. At those points I felt guilty though, because I would imagine what it must be like to have your actual life on the line, your fate to be decided by a jury who also had an ear toward that mob outside who, like the real mob, likely had every intention of harming them and their families if the ‘wrong’ decision was made. What must it be like to face the prospect of life in prison not because of anything you actually did wrong, but because crazed leftists bullied your peers into finding you ‘guilty’ to save themselves? It had to have been pure hell.

No, I wasn’t personally facing anything close to the horror that Kyle Rittenhouse faced, at least not yet. However, the reason I and probably others felt that way was because a key aspect of our worldview - the notion that human beings have the right to defend their property and themselves against violent aggressors - certainly was also on trial. And the left knew it. Last week, Fox News host Tucker Carlson horrifying described the “whole point” of that bogus prosecution:

"So no one with a concealed carry permit is allowed to defend himself? What’s the point of having a gun if you can't save your own life with it? Well, that’s exactly what they’re telling you. They’re telling you you don't have that right. You have no right to resist. That’s the whole point of this whole proceeding. So the next time BLM sweeps into your town, your neighborhood, your house to burn and loot and brandish weapons, you had better not try to protect yourself or your family. Try to protect yourself or your family and we will charge you with murder, and while we’re at it we’ll have the national media call you racist."

Tucker is spot-on, of course. For me, watching this whole trial play out has led to a lot of self-reflection. We can argue about his age, the weapon he brought, and whether or not he should have been there in the first place. But if BLM and Antifa thugs came to my town to loot and burn instead of protesting peacefully, I would hope I would have the courage to get out there and defend my community like then-17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse did. I would imagine most readers of this column would agree. But the left not only wants us to stay home and let these jackals burn our cities and towns, they want to punish us if we resist.

And make no mistake, that’s exactly why what happened to Kyle Rittenhouse happened in the first place. No prosecutor with any sense of real justice would have ever put a defendant through a trial - and the very real prospect of losing their liberty - based on the facts in that case. But they did, and judging by some reports on the nature of actual discussions going on in that jury room, they came uncomfortably close to winning or at least getting another shot at the apple with a mistrial.

 

During the days the jury was deciding Kyle Rittenhouse’s fate, I found myself checking my phone every hour or two. The longer it took, the more nervous I became. Yes, mostly nervous for that poor kid who was at risk of losing his life for nothing, but also nervous for the precedent this would set for future heroes forced by the insane left to defend their lives with lethal force. Are we seriously going to live in a society where we have to weigh defending our own life and those of our families with the prospect of going to prison? And even beyond that, when we start imprisoning people who use guns in self-defense, the next step is banning those guns entirely. After all, what would be the point?

 

 We all know how this particular story ended. Thankfully, evil didn’t win. Not this time. This time, sanity won. This time, if only for a few hours or days, the balance of universal justice, of common sense, of nature’s law, prevailed. Yes, Kyle Rittenhouse gets to live his life, hopefully as a rich man at the helm of MSNBC (you know, after he ‘owns’ them in a massive lawsuit). It was his victory first, and a well deserved one at that. But it was also a victory for all of us who care about preserving the God-given right to defend ourselves against violent aggressors who would do us harm.

Kyle Rittenhause and the Red Pilling of America

I have noticed that people are waking up from the lies from the media, they have pushed it so hard that people that normally don't get involved are getting involved and they are getting pissed because they realize that they were lied to and they are not "Happy Campers" and this bodes ill for the Donks because people that are aware are difficult to put asleep again.  It is like in the matrix, once you realize that you are a "Duracell" battery, it is hard to go back to be ignorant.

 

I shamelessly clipped this from "Townhall",  

  

Source: Mark Hertzberg /Pool Photo via AP

You know, a few more rampages by inept alleged “white supremacists” like Kyle Rittenhouse – he only managed to shoot white criminals! – and everybody is going to be thoroughly awakened to the reality of the leftist scam. The trial that followed the Kenosha Kid’s act of social hygiene constituted only one tab in the big bottle of scarlet pills America’s been force-fed lately. Others include being confronted at work with mandates for vaxes that don’t act as advertised, as well as being inundated with racist CRT garbage, and having one’s kids come home from school with creepy porno crap that makes you wonder if they hit up the Lincoln Project lending library.

There are more pills going on than in Hunter’s medicine cabinet.

Why the festival of figurative pharmaceuticals? Because the left got out over its skis. It went too far, too fast, and now normal folks who just want to live their lives and usually show no interest in political/cultural controversies are showing up at school board meetings asking why the hell their kids are accusing them of slavery. Combined with a crusty old pervert in the White House who is causing economic inflation and international humiliation, and the left is in trouble. Deep trouble. See, the truth is getting out despite the media’s lies. Its pet political party is looking at being demolished next November. But instead of slowing down and taking stock, the Marxists are doubling down on failure knowing they only have their micro-majorities for a year. This genius strategy got them Glenn Youngkin and will get them many more based pols who are many times more hardcore.

It is only going to get worse for them, which means it is only going to get better for America.

Remember, leftism only succeeds when surrounded by a fog of lies. When the fog lifts, people reject it. And the media pumped out all the fog it could. There were people who literally did not know the collection of criminals and/or perverts Kyle exorcised were as white as Mitt Romney at a Cure concert. Really. That was the media’s doing, lying that the only reason Kyle didn’t want to have his brains bashed in by these scumbags was his pallor and reporting that nonsense accordingly. But when people watched the trial, they saw something entirely different from what they had been fed by the Enemy of the People, and it stuck. People were shocked – not people like us who are fully woke to the fact the media is nothing more than a collection of semi-literate, poorly-paid hack transcriptionists for the liberal elite – to see that they were being lied to, and hard. Not little lies. Not careless errors. No, these were calculated, intentional lies designed to push the party line. And their lies were revealed to all in that Kenosha courtroom.

The liberal champions were Binger and Lunchbox, the Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Dumbass of assistant DAs who were incompetent when they weren’t straight-up lying. And people saw it all. Normal people, the kind who used to have some faith in the people in charge of the system.

Now they are like us. They got woke.

In this, MSNBC did yeoman service – wait, is Joy Reid going to shriek that I assumed the gender of a yeo? Now, few people except communists, masochists, and people who can’t find the remote, watch that festival of cable onanism, so the big effect was not from its non-stop parade of ridiculous people crying about Kyle. No, it was these dummies’ decision to get caught stalking the jury in what was clearly an attempt to dox the jurors. Normal people may not know the statutes and code sections, but they have an understanding that you don’t mess with a deliberating jury. Congrats, MSNBC – you have amazingly managed to drive the reputation of the media even lower, and we thank you for it. We will not be happy until you have alienated every patriotic, non-pinko American!

You know who saved Kyle, and us? It was normal people who got woke to the lie, the jurors. They saw the evidence, or rather, the total absence of it. They deliberated for nearly 24 hours. They asked to review video. They asked to examine copies of the instructions. They – and even I was too cynical to see this coming in an era when every single institution from Hollywood to the Marines has failed us – did their job.

Whoa.

And Americans all over are doing their job, which the left hates. They are confronting school boards. They are voting for patriots. They are organizing. They are pushing back. Right now, the polling for the Democrats is positively gruesome, like that one guy’s bicep. It’s because people are getting activated. They are not sitting on the bench. 2022 is going to be epic.

GOP, take note of the Kyle Rittenhouse phenomenon. Understand why people get angry at school board meetings. Hear the Blank Joe Biden chants. Learn the right lessons from them. Don’t start up with the chin-stroking crap about, “Well, Kyle never should have been there.” Baloney. Americans have a right to be anywhere they damn well please. It’s the dirtbag degenerates who don’t have a right to be there, burning and looting. They don’t have a right to burn and loot in peace. We have a right to be ticked off at CRT and other perversions inflicted on our kids, and if we are rude to bureaucrats, too bad. And who cares if fed-up people yell dirty words about Grandpa Badfinger? Stop clutching your pearls. Stop playing the left’s game because you think it might make you seem “reasonable” and avoid uncomfortable conversations at the country club. Take our side in the fight.

Take Kyle’s side. Take the parents’ side. Take the drunk college kids’ side. Take our side, or you’ll be pushed aside. Be based or be Liz Cheney – you pols are fungible and if you fail to perform there’s someone with testosterone who can replace you.

Stand strong and militant. We do not recognize any duty to not be anywhere because it inconveniences the military wing of the Democrat Party, and we do not recognize any duty to not legally pack heat in doing so. We do not recognize a duty to suck up to petty administrators and flunkies. And we’ll swear about that desiccated old freak if we feel like it. The GOP better get on board or we’ll toss it off the train.

The American people are waking up and taking their own side in this fight. Kyle. Virginia. Let’s go, Brandon. The GOP must be dragged into the next round of the fight, and it damn well better stop resisting us and start resisting the lef

"Rittenhouse Verdict Should Teach us not to trust instant analysis and Agenda Driven Reporting."

 

    You Will see my Monday Music Beneath this Posting.

 I snagged this off the NY Post editorial Page, I was kinda surprised to see it, but I agree with it, a lot of drama could have been avoided if the Legacy Media had waited for the facts to play out rather than run with an agenda that inflamed a lot of drama that got people killed and caused millions of dollars of property damage, I would love to find a way for some of these muckrakers to get charged with "inciting a riot" for the irresponsible reporting.  I really want to see Kyle go after the Media with lawsuits for slander because his life will never be the same, there will always be people gunning for him to "right the wrongs of Kenosha"

This is an example of the twitter post that I have seen,  and she is kinda mild for some of the vitriol that I have seen, you want to see what the Left thinks of you? go on twitter and Tiktok and you will learn, I hate wading through that sewer but forwarned is forearmed.  Also there was a Rapper that drove his SUV through a Christmas Parade and right now it is a tossup if it is the "Religion of Pieces" making an appearance, Driving through Christmas Parades is their "Thing" and they did it a few more times since that post, or it could be blowback to the Rittonhouse Verdict.  The fact is that there is no news released to who the guy is by the mainstream media tells me that it "Ain't a white guy", if it was, they would be trumpeting it long and wide because it supports "Da Narrative".

  Well Anyway here is the New York Post Editorial.

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Not guilty on all counts: That verdict comes as no surprise to anyone who’d paid close attention to the Kyle Rittenhouse trial but may shock those who relied on horrifically biased media accounts.

Nearly all the early media tropes proved false: He didn’t bring the gun across state lines; he had major roots in Kenosha including his day job and much of his family. He wasn’t a militia-wannabe but an aspiring cop/firefighter/EMT.

Absolutely nothing suggests he was a “white supremacist,” as no less than Joe Biden claimed right before last year’s election.

And the men he shot were all attacking him when he pulled the trigger; all were white, and at least two had histories of violence.

None of this makes him a “patriot,” as ideologues on the other side insist. But the evidence for self-defense was rock-solid.

Kyle Rittenhouse reacts to his acquittal in court on Nov. 19, 2021.

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Rittenhouse supporters react to the verdict outside of the Kenosha County courthouse on Friday, Nov. 19, 2021.

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BLM activists listen to the verdict outside of the Kenosha County courthouse at the end of jury deliberation during the Kyle Rittenhouse trial.

Stephen Yang

Some refuse to admit that. Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers (D.) released a bizarre statement that “no verdict will be able to bring back the lives” of the two men Rittenhouse killed, nor “heal the wounds” of the Jacob Blake shooting that triggered the riots nor remove the state’s need to work toward “equity.” Translation: I’m on your side, rioters: Please don’t riot again.

New York pols also treated the verdict as some kind of injustice, including Mayor de Blasio, who wants to free every criminal in Rikers but called the Rittenhouse decision “disgusting and it sends a horrible message to this country.”  

Maybe that’s because the haters stuck to their narrative for months, even as the trial exposed the core facts.

The worst — MSNBC’s Joy Reid, for one — will never let it go. You can see them practically begging for there to be riots, an incredibly irresponsible position for Kenosha and the nation. Let’s hope no one listens to them.

The rank, politicized distortions of fact here — and in so many other recent incidents — should teach everyone once and for all not to trust instant analysis or agenda-driven reporting. When the facts played out via the proper judicial process, common sense and truth prevailed.

May that lesson sink in widely, not least with the man in charge of upholding America’s institutions and leading the nation to unity.

Kyle Rittenhouse reacts as he’s acquitted of all charges.

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Monday Music "Hysteria" by Def Leppard

 I am continuing my "What songs would i play if Sirius/XM let me host a segment for an hour and these are the songs that I couold play over and over again 3 or 4 times before continuing to the next song.  I will continue the *Boogaloo* theme after Christmas, that poor theme I had started November of last year and rode it hard like that little burro that carries the really fat lady down the grand canyon and back up again so it is still recharging in the pasture eating grass and grain before use it again.

This is one of my favorite "Def Leppard" songs.  I bought this album in both vinyl and CD.  Where I was stationed, we would go to "Robinson Barracks" in Stuttgart to visit the big PX, and for a while they had a hard time keeping this album in stock.   I rank this album along with U2 "The Joshua Tree" as the most iconic albums of the late 80's.  Def Leppard puts on a hell of a show, I saw them in Europe and from what I have been told, they still so.  Back then I had the "stupid" money to lay out for a concert but now my taste have changed, something about crowds I suppose and the cost.  I just can't see dropping the money they want for tickets in this day and age.   Next week I will run a song from the 70's, I already have one in mind ;)

"Hysteria" is a love song by the English hard rock band Def Leppard. It is the tenth track on their 1987 album of the same name and was released as the fourth single from that album in November 1987. On VH1 Storytellers: Def Leppard, lead singer Joe Elliott revealed that the song title came from drummer Rick Allen.

The mellow ballad features a clean guitar melody that is very reminiscent of "Goodbye Blue Sky" by Pink Floyd, and heavily multi-tracked vocals in its chorus. The "extreme" nature of producer Mutt Lange's recording methods is also exampled in the chorus, where the clean guitar chords were recorded one note at a time as opposed to the traditional method of strumming them, in effect "building" a chord by recording the notes that make them up as one would build a wall by stacking bricks upon each other one-by-one as confirmed by recording engineer Mike Shipley. An acoustic rendition of the song was performed by Elliott and guitarist Phil Collen on the Hysteria edition of VH1's Classic Albums.

Sorry about the delay in posting, I got really busy in *Meatspace* and between work and some stuff going on here, I didn't get a chance to post.

U.S Airforce Employee handed personal information to the German tax court resulting in a $300,000 Judgment

This gave me the chills when I read it, I was stationed there for 5 years from 1986 to 1991 and I had dealings with the German court system,hey speeding tickets add up.  I lost every one because I was an American and it didn't matter that a couple of them were bogus, I still had to pay, and JAG was no help, and from what I heard, I wasn't the only one with that problem.  The SOFA Agreement supposed to give us some protection from the local laws because we are Americans stationed there.  One of the things was we didn't pay the "Zolle" or fuel tax on the gas, I was already paying a dollar a gallon for super unleaded back then and a few other things that were tax exempt.  And another thing was the agent Dirk, makes me wonder where his loyalty was, to his job or to his homeland.  If I was his boss, I would find a way to can his ass, but to fire him in Germany is an expensive proposition because of the job protections they have.

     After reading this, it reinforced my attitude that we need to pull the rest of our troops out and send them to Poland or back to the States.  President Trump had the right idea but the Germans didn't want us leaving because we are a revenue source for them, ..hey someone has to pay for all the benefits for the "refugees" you know.  I have a bunch of good memories of Germany back during the Cold way, but after the Cold war, I heard everything changed and the Germans didn't want us there anymore.

Ramstein Air Base. (U.S. Air Force)

16 Nov 2021

Stars and Stripes | By John Vandiver

STUTTGART, Germany -- The German tax collectors wanted to know it all: commissary expenditures, on-base gasoline purchases, visits to a Ramstein Air Base fitness center, discounted airline flights to the United States.

And special agent Dirk Roessling, a German employee of the U.S. Air Force's Office of Special Investigations at Ramstein, obliged in a five-page report that ended up being used against a U.S. military-affiliated family in tax court.

The report shows a U.S. military agency collaborating with German authorities to collect German income tax penalties on U.S. military paychecks -- a practice the State Department considers a violation of a multinational treaty.

"It felt like there was a mole on the inside," said the American, who worked as a military civilian at Ramstein under the NATO Status of Forces Agreement before moving to the U.S. in 2020.

Added his German wife: "They knew everything. I feel like they are Stasi people working there," a reference to the secret police of communist East Germany during the Cold Wa

The couple, who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of being retargeted by collectors, are among an untold number of Americans connected to the military in Germany who have been financially ruined by local tax offices.

The amount they paid, much of it related to penalties connected to so-called base "privileges," was 248,452.99 euros, or roughly $300,000, the couple said.

The cooperation of the Air Force's OSI branch at Ramstein came to light after Stars and Stripes was provided a copy of the purchase records covering four years that Roessling sent the Neustadt finance department in 2018.

The Neustadt office is where Rheinland-Pfalz tax dispute cases are litigated.

The couple lost their case in tax court in Neustadt in 2020. The court determined that the American wasn't in Germany "solely" for his job and that he had no intention of returning to the U.S., where he now lives, the family said.

Mike Goff, a retired Air Force senior master sergeant who serves as an advocate for the affected military community in Germany, said he was "astonished" that any U.S. military office handed over information about on-base purchases by a SOFA-protected American "to share with a foreign country's most feared agency."

U.S. Air Forces in Europe said in a statement that the Air Force Office of Special Investigations "does not comment on pending legal matters."

Roessling, the special agent who sent the report to the tax authorities, did not respond to a request for comment.

More than one year after the U.S. government lodged a diplomatic complaint that German finance offices are misinterpreting the SOFA in their attempts to tax military personnel, there is still no end in sight to what has become a revenue stream for some German garrison towns.

"At this time, we cannot get into specific discussions," a U.S. State Department spokesman told Stars and Stripes in a statement. "However, we can assure you that the U.S. government has expressed at very high levels our eagerness to see the long-standing issue resolved. We will continue to engage with our German partners on this matter."

In September, Secretary of State Anthony Blinken told reporters during a visit to Ramstein Air Base that he was unaware of the matter but that he would look into it. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin raised his concerns with his German counterpart during a Pentagon meeting in June.

While diplomatic talks drag on, there are new questions about how much cooperation U.S. military investigators should give when German authorities pursue these tax cases.

The dispute centers on how to interpret the NATO treaty, which puts the pay and benefits of those with military visas off-limits to local tax collectors.

No other country with large concentrations of U.S. forces, including Italy, the United Kingdom, Japan and South Korea, has tried to collect income tax on military paychecks, which are already taxed by the U.S. government.

But some German authorities say the treaty leaves the door open to taxing Americans who have personal reasons for being in Germany.

Being married to a German, sending children to local schools or having lengthy tours of duty are some of the factors considered in tax liability cases.

Certain groups of military civilians, such as teachers, are especially at risk because their positions don't come with tour length restrictions, and they can spend their whole careers abroad.

For American personnel, getting into a tax battle with the Germans involves more than just pay. Finance offices use base amenities to inflate bills.

Things like access to discounted gas, Defense Department schools for children, tax-free shopping and free gyms are among the privileges that get factored in.

"This is what the (German finance offices) use to tack on upwards of 15,000 euros to our fellow Americans' income to squeeze more illegal money out of them," Goff said.

Both USAFE and U.S. Army Europe and Africa say they are unaware of requests by local tax offices for purchase records from base authorities for use in tax assessments against personnel.

That raises the question of whether German tax officials are approaching U.S. military investigators with felony allegations of tax fraud as a means of accessing the records, which can then be redirected to noncriminal tax dispute cases at issue in the SOFA dispute.

Under the SOFA, the military must provide information in certain cases, such as when goods are being sold on the black market.

The SOFA provisions also apply when a person or business is already subject to German taxation.

For example, the military would have to provide records pertaining to on-base concessionaires who are accused of not reporting income and purchases to German authorities.

Yet Ramstein's OSI office appears to have gone a step further, sending information on a military-affiliated family that it acknowledged in its letter to German finance officials had "full entitlement" to privileges.

The Landstuhl-Kusel finance office, which oversees matters in the Ramstein area, defended its methods.

In a statement, it said it seeks information for tax cases "based exclusively" on what is "permitted under procedural law" and provisions in the SOFA.

German authorities haven't revealed how much money they've collected from American personnel over the years or how many people have been targeted in all, but in the Ramstein Air Base area alone, there were roughly 400 cases as of last year.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/11/16/us-air-force-employee-handed-over-couples-purchase-records-leading-300000-tax-bill-germans.html

Opposition is growing to the Un-American Vaccine Mandates

 I am having to fill out a petition at work for a waiver not to have to take the "Vaccine", at my place of employment, I have a job that pays exceeding well and I have to worry about losing that job because I am standing up on my principles on "Who Owns You" I am concerned despite the court order telling the Xiden administration that they overreached, he is telling companies to proceed anyway and most of them are proceeding despite the court order.  What is going on? why are all these companies rolling over and showing their bellies to the Xiden administration.  Does anybody have a spine anymore?

     I did clip this from "Townhall.com

 

After two years of fear mongering from the country’s political, media and medical elite, President Joe Biden ordered a highly controversial COVID-19 vaccine mandate on September 9, 2021. He authorized the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) to prepare these orders for businesses with over one hundred employees.

On November 4, 2021, OSHA officially announced the rules; however, enforcement was not set to begin until early in 2022. The orders require employees to take the COVID-19 vaccine or submit to weekly tests proving they are free of the virus. The businesses might have to terminate their best employees if they do not comply with these stringent requirements.

This was Biden’s most aggressive step to force Americans to take a vaccine, regardless of their age or health condition. It also mandated compliance regardless of whether employees were previously infected and had natural immunity.

Coupled with the continuing mask mandates and the ongoing restrictions on certain businesses, the American people must realize that the hyping of the COVID-19 pandemic is not going away anytime soon. Regardless of whether the number of hospitalized patients or virus-related deaths is increasing or decreasing, the corrupt elite need the pandemic to continue. Of course, American citizens in the grips of fear of COVID-19 are easier to control and manipulate.

The Biden administration is intent on forcing mandates on the nation, despite the economic cost. Already, our economy is suffering from the Biden administration’s horrific mismanagement. The country is facing soaring inflation, increasing gasoline prices, foreign energy dependence and a wide-open border with a massive surge of millions of people pouring into the country.

Instead of dealing with the country’s real problems and offering useful solutions, the Biden administration continues to focus on its favorite issues: vaccine mandates and climate change action. No matter what issue develops, the Biden administration finds opportunities to advocate for more vaccine compliance and more green energy “solutions” to the “crisis” of climate change.

There should be little wonder why the poll numbers for Biden and the Democrats are plunging. This administration is not listening to the American people. Instead, it is forcing its unpopular agenda on the country.

Regarding the vaccine mandates, it is time the American people channeled the anger from the character Howard Beale, the anchor in the movie Network, performed brilliantly by Academy Award winning actor Peter Finch. In the movie, he famously encouraged people to open their windows and yell, “I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take this anymore!”

The American people should not meekly accept our federal government trying to force citizens to take a vaccine against their will. The mantra, “my body, my choice” should apply to vaccines. In this country, medical privacy should be the guaranteed right of every American citizen. Whether we take a COVID-19 vaccine or not should be no one’s business, especially the federal government. These actions are hallmarks of communist dictatorships, not a 245-year-old constitutional republic like the United States of America.

 

Fortunately, there has been noteworthy progress in recent days. For example, the new commander of the Oklahoma National Guard, Army Brigadier General Thomas Mancino, informed the 10,000 troops under his authority that he will not be enforcing the COVID-19 vaccine mandate ordered by U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin. The order impacted all branches of the military, including the National Guard in each state.

Mancino made the announcement the day after his appointment to the position by Oklahoma Governor Kevin Stitt, who had already requested that the Defense Department end any type of vaccine mandate on the members of the Oklahoma Army and Air National Guard. Stitt called the mandate “irresponsible.”

General Mancino will not enforce the mandate on the Oklahoma troops despite the Defense Department’s order to “discipline and ultimately discharge (non-vaccinated) servicemembers.”  This protection will only extend to the Oklahoma National Guard members while they are under state command, not when they are under the authority of the federal government.

In his reply to these actions in Oklahoma, Pentagon spokesperson Admiral John Kirby, stated that Secretary Austin will respond to the Governor of Oklahoma “appropriately.” He claimed that Secretary Austin believes that the vaccine mandates make the country’s armed forces, including the national guard units of each state, “a more ready force.”

Along with the decision of the Oklahoma National Guard Commander, the opponents of the vaccine mandate secured a major victory in the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. On Friday evening, the court delivered a huge defeat to the Biden administration, which will not be able to proceed with plans to force businesses with over one hundred employees to mandate COVID-19 vaccines or weekly testing for their workforces.

According to the judges, the mandate most likely “violates the constitutional structure that safeguards our collective liberty.” The judges also claimed the mandate “grossly exceeds OSHA’s statutory authority,” and is “staggeringly overbroad.”

The decision was a powerful strike against the Biden administration’s aggressive vaccine plans. In one section of the decision, the three judge panel accurately noted the economic costs that would be imposed on American businesses, “The Mandate imposes a financial burden upon them by deputizing their participation in OSHA’s regulatory scheme, exposes them to severe financial risk if they refuse or fail to comply, and threatens to decimate their workforces (and business prospects) by forcing unwilling employees to take their shots, take their tests, or hit the road.”

These employees would “hit the road” only because of their stance on vaccines, not their work performance.

The mandate would have impacted eighty million Americans, about two-thirds of the private sector workforce in the country. According to Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry, who participated in the lawsuit against the Biden administration, “The Court’s action not only halts Biden from moving forward with his unlawful overreach, but it also commands the judicious review we sought.”

Let us hope this upcoming “judicious review” will put a stake in this un-American vaccine mandate for the last time.

 

Monday Music "Going Down To Liverpool" By the Bangles

  

 I am still giving my Bugaloo Muse a break for a couple more weeks, as it fattens itself up some more in the pasture after being rode hard for a year.  

I always liked the Bangles (Besides being hot, I am a guy of course)  I considered them very talented musicians...to the scale of Meatloaf? or Fleetwood Mac or KISS or AC/DC...No......But way better than that douche-nozzle bieber or some of the other clowns that keeps making the news nowadays for various escapades.


"Going Down To Liverpool" is a song written by Kimberley Rew for his group Katrina and The Waves, although best remembered by a cover done by The Bangles. The song was first released on the band's 1982 EP titled Shock Horror! (with the band then simply named The Waves) and also included on their 1983 debut album Walking on Sunshine, which was only released in Canada. The version included on both releases featured Rew on lead vocals.
When the band signed with major label Capitol Records, the song was re-recorded with Katrina Leskanich on lead vocals and included on their 1985 self-titled album . Although never released as a single, it was featured as the b-side of two of the bands' singles, Plastic Man and their breakthrough hit Walking on Sunshine.

American female band The Bangles covered the song on their 1984 major label debut album All Over the Place. The song features lead vocals by Debbi Peterson and it was released as the album's second single, one of only two singles with Peterson on lead vocals, the other being "Be With You". The song had been introduced by a friend to Vicki Peterson, who immediately liked it and urged the band to record a cover.
The single failed to chart in the USA, and became a very minor UK hit in April 1985, peaking at #79. The single's b-side was the album track Dover Beach, while the 12" single featured three songs from their Bangles EP on the b-side.
When the band found success with their subsequent album Different Light, "Going Down To Liverpool" was re-released as a single in the UK and Ireland in 1986, after the release of "If She Knew What She Wants", with new cover artwork and featuring the Different Light album track "Let It Go". This time the single fared better but still only became a minor hit, peaking at #56, while it became a top 40 hit in Ireland peaking at #21.

 The music video for the song, directed by Tamar Simon Hoffs, features the band inside a car being driven around by a chauffeur, who appears to be unimpressed by the group (at one point he turns off the car radio, stopping the song). The car stops inside a tunnel and the girls walk towards the end of it, which cuts to the band playing and dancing over a red background. Leonard Nimoy played the part of the chauffeur; this came about due to a college friendship between Susanna Hoffs and Nimoy's son Adam. 

 

Minor Addendums...

 I returned to work yesterday after my bout with "Covid", I am still kinda tired, but I have this week to file my objections to the vaccine at my employer, I have medical, religious, moral and ethical; and I have a week to get my objection in before the window closes.

   I watched a classic on "Prime" last night, the movie is called "The Warriors", the movie came out in 1979 and I tuned into it later.  The Movie has become into a cult classic, everyone pretty much recognizes it..."Can you Dig it......"

 

 This is the actual speech, "Can...You...Count..Sucka's...!"

                                              "The Warriors, Last Subway Ride Home"

    I ran across this clip looking for the "Warriors Come out and Play" clip

For someone as old as I am and older, New York had a reputation as a "Sewer", that it very recently returned to for all the graffiti and crime(Thanks Donks and DeBlasio), but watching that movie is a blast from the past because it is a reminder of what the late 70's was like for those of us that were around back then, it was the best of time and the worst of time if you know what I am saying.

And finally I got a cover for the Truck...

  So my Precious would be under cover when I am not driving her, the dang trees are tough, I had a heck of a time cleaning her up when she sat for a couple of months, and I don't want to repeat that.