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Friday, March 6, 2020

Some Mistakes made in War movies...

There have been some really good war movies, from Zulu, Both Midways, A bridge too far, Siege of Firebase Gloria, Full Metal jacket and a bunch others, but there have been some dogs out there.
FILM 'ENEMY AT THE GATES' BY JEAN-JACQUES ANNAUD (Photo by Siemoneit/Sygma via Getty Images)
FILM 'ENEMY AT THE GATES' BY JEAN-JACQUES ANNAUD (Photo by Siemoneit/Sygma via Getty Images)
One of the biggest bombs of Ben Affleck’s career, and there have been several, happens to be one of the most error-ridden war movies Hollywood has ever produced: Pearl Harbour (2001). It wasn’t just a bad Affleck film, it is one of several films to come out of Hollywood’s “dream factory” that can’t seem to get it consistently right when telling wartime narratives.
Of course, filmmakers have to enhance stories to lure audiences into theatres. But accuracy is often sacrificed in the process. In Pearl Harbour, Affleck’s character is a member of the Air Force who joins the Eagle Squadron.
In reality, that couldn’t happen. Neither would he have flown a Polish plane, as he does in the film. This movie is riddled with as many errors as bullets, and bad reviews followed swiftly upon its release.
Photograph of Battleship Row taken from a Japanese plane at the beginning of the attack. The explosion in the center is a torpedo strike on USS West Virginia. Two attacking Japanese planes can be seen: one over USS Neosho and one over the Naval Yard.
Photograph of Battleship Row taken from a Japanese plane at the beginning of the attack. The explosion in the center is a torpedo strike on USS West Virginia. Two attacking Japanese planes can be seen: one over USS Neosho and one over the Naval Yard.
Hollywood sometimes falls prey to serving as propaganda, and there is no better example than the 1968 John Wayne film, The Green Berets. In truth, the film was trying to sell the public on an unpopular war in Vietnam.

Almost everything about the movie, from its use of forests instead of a jungle, is wrong.  I remembered seeing bleachers by the "Vietnamese Village", it was filmed at Fort Benning. Wayne’s performance is unbelievable: he is ageing, overweight, and distracted, a man who would never be allowed in the field in the real army.
Even a Best Picture winner like The Hurt Locker can get it wrong. Veterans complained that this depiction of a bomb disposal squad in Iraq bore no resemblance to reality. In the film, the soldiers are unsupervised and surly to officials, neither of which is fair or accurate, according to army personnel.
World War II is probably the most fertile ground for filmmakers, but that also makes it ripe for creative reinvention.
Windtalkers, a 2002 film about the role of Native Americans in WWII, depicts them helping U.S. forces send each other coded messages in Navajo. But it also shows them as disposable. Their bodyguards are told to kill them rather than let them fall into enemy hands. This film failed to find an audience, except perhaps on Netflix.
A Navajo Code Talker relays a message on a field radio. The code talkers served in the South Pacific during World War II and were kept a secret until 1968 when the Navajo code was finally declassified.
A Navajo Code Talker relays a message on a field radio. The code talkers served in the South Pacific during World War II and were kept a secret until 1968 when the Navajo code was finally declassified.
Some errors are less egregious than others. In 2006, Flyboys dramatized the battle between U.S. pilots and the German Luftstreitkräfte
but used the wrong planes. Producers said it was so audiences could tell one side from the other, which seemed fair enough until it was revealed that a military advisor on the film had made up his service record.
A 2000 film, U-571, earned a rebuke from the highest-ranking member of the British government at the time, Prime Minister Tony Blair. The film credited America with decoding the Nazi Enigma machine in 1941. The U.S. had not even entered the war by then, let alone done any code breaking.
That success was achieved by the Royal Air Force, prompting Britain’s PM called the movie “an insult.” The Imitation Game followed a few years later, a much-acclaimed film that told the true story of the first Enigma machine, and was nominated for several Oscars.
Heinz Guderian with an Enigma machine in a Sd.Kfz. 251 half-track being used as a mobile command center during the Battle of France. By Bundesarchiv, Bild  CC-BY-SA 3.0.
Heinz Guderian with an Enigma machine in a Sd.Kfz. 251 half-track being used as a mobile command center during the Battle of France. By Bundesarchiv, Bild  CC-BY-SA 3.0.
Enemy At The Gates (2001) told a story of World War II from a different angle, that of a Soviet sniper. The movie is based on the real soldier, Vasily Zaytsev, but is believed to contain two critical mistakes.
Firstly, it shows the Red Army severely ill-equipped, which wasn’t true. Secondly, it depicts a one-on-one encounter between the Russian sniper and his Nazi opponent, which experts believe likely didn’t happen.
The Battle Of The Bulge, released in 1965, is a much-admired movie, but it got plenty wrong too. This epic film shows the famous battle being fought on flat land, but the real one happened in a forest. The film battle was shot in “easy” weather while the real one was plagued with snow and rain. Finally, the tanks on the Nazi side were clearly American made.
Vasily Zaytsev, left, and soviet snipers equipped with Mosin-Nagant M1891/30 with PE scope in Stalingrad, December 1942.
Vasily Zaytsev, left, and soviet snipers equipped with Mosin-Nagant M1891/30 with PE scope in Stalingrad, December 1942.
A movie about WWII that tried to be less downbeat than most was Red Tails, released in 2002. It told the story of the first African American air squadron, but in its desire to be positive, it made errors. In reality, the squad had no aces and, 25 bombers lost their lives to enemy forces. However, the film doesn’t depict this, implying instead that the team had a perfect survival rate.
Pilots of a U.S. Army Air Forces fighter squadron, credited with shooting down 8 of the 28 German planes, 1944.
Pilots of a U.S. Army Air Forces fighter squadron, credited with shooting down 8 of the 28 German planes, 1944.
,Presenting the Armed Forces in a negative way has become something of a popular approach these days, as in Jarhead, released in 2005. This film is about the first Gulf War, and is set in the 1990s.  I saw that movie and it pissed me off almost as bad as the "Three Kings" movie with George Clooney during the First Gulf War, I had a very poor reaction to that movie, I considered it "crap".  Officials claim that the severe training methods shown, during which one soldier dies, are unfair. They believe the film makes army life look unnecessarily tough, and argue that soldiers would not be left to die on the battlefield. Officials went on record to make known their displeasure.
    I am sure that there are others but these are the ones that jumped out at me.  

9 comments:

  1. Hollyweird takes all kinds of 'liberties' with reality to spice up the movie... Don't get me started... Gahh...

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    1. Hey Old NFO;

      Yeah they do, Some of them are pretty good, but some of them....Yeech.

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  2. Courage Under Rashomon... er... Fire is one that sets my teeth on edge.

    Initially I enjoyed it, but repeated viewings have gotten me to loathe it.

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    1. Hey Angus;

      I had to look that one to make sure that it was what I remember, yep..I tend to agree. It was a shameless propaganda movie to promote "Diversity", same with GI Jane.

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  3. Bulge was shot in Spain. Belgium was busy at the time.

    And Green Berets was a personal project of the Duke's. Nobody else had the guts to tell a story like that. I've read a lot of SFs like the movie because it shows what their work is actually about. And where did you want them to shoot it, Quang tri?

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    1. The Green Beret to me was a good movie, I always liked the Duke and he was virulently anti-communist. Nobody else but the Duke could have filmed that movie and make it stick. There were inconsistencies in the movie, just things that I and others have noticed. They did a good job with what they had.

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  4. I have never heard anyone admire "Battle of the Bulge"! It was awful in many respects almost as bad as "Pearl Harbour" which reeked.

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  5. Tried to watch "Pearl Harbor" but images of the best PH movie ever made, "Tora, Tora, Tora" kept overwriting the poor unreality of that dogsqueeze of a movie.

    Bad CGI does not a good movie make.

    And, yes, there are some issues with "T, T, T" but, in comparison to most other war flicks, it still is pretty much the gold standard.

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    1. Hey Beans

      Tora,Tora,Tora is still the Gold Standard, and you are correct, They used some of the clips from "Tora" in Midway, the Same company filmed that one.

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