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Thursday, January 21, 2021

Chivalry ...And the Modern Age.

 I ran across this post I did back in 2014  while looking for a couple of cartoons for my post I did on Tuesday and I thought it was worthy of a repost since the subject matter is of a timeless matter, 

 I decided to do a post on chivalry, what meant and the lack of it now.   This post has been eating at me for a long time and I finally decided to roll with it.

     I have been told that I am a throwback to a bygone age,my mannerism and vocabulary are archiac from what I was told.   I am a firm believer in manners, I like to quote "Lazarus Long" a character that Robert Heinlein created.  Basically Lazarus Long was an immortal and he would keep notes of his experiences and observations.  
    "Moving parts in rubbing contact require lubrication to avoid excessive wear. Honorifics and formal politeness provide lubrication where people rub together. Often the very young, the untraveled, the naive, the unsophisticated deplore these formalities as “empty,” “meaningless,” or “dishonest,” and scorn to use them. No matter how “pure” their motives, they thereby throw sand into machinery that does not work too well at best."

     I will use other quotes from Lazarus here and there to make a point, Robert Heinlein  besides being a prolific writer was prescient also, but I digress.  The point I was making and he was with that quote is basically manners are the social lubricant for interactions with other people.  I have told my son more than once, to be nice to people and remember your manners, you get more accomplished with a kind word than being a jerk.  
     The Act of Chivalry as practiced long ago is no longer there, It used to be stressed as part of our culture, the culture of the West.  But it is no longer practiced because people out there believe that all cultures are equal and if you display chivalrous manners, you are denigrating other cultures.....Are you kidding?   The same people that denigrate Western Civilization, are the cultural marxist and their fellow travelers that use what is called "Constructive criticism" to challenge the beliefs of a culture.  This is from the Frankfurt School of Neo Marxist social theory.  Once you have forced a society to question it's long held belief system, you can then replace it with one that is more conducive to the goals of the marxist.  The Marxist believe in social and economic equality...the end results...Having one culture being superior to the other cultures kinda upsets the social applecart.  The lack of manners that is being displayed today is a result of this.  Remember back in the Victorian era, the manners were expected of all , even the "low class people" and if somebody gave you an affront, you were expected to deal with it yourself.  Usually with a duel or fisticuffs I believe it was called.  Even when I was in school, if somebody was bullying you , you either sucked it up or you beat the bully.  Now they want you to go tell an authority figure instead...People are afraid to do anything unless they have the power of the state behind them.  People are afraid to stand on their own two feet.  That is what the social reconstruction has wrought.
     This ties in with the decline of Western civilization.  

     "The two highest achievements of the human mind are the twin concepts of “loyalty” and “duty.” Whenever these twin concepts fall into disrepute--get out of there fast. You may possibly save yourself, but it is too late to save that society. It is doomed. "

Another quote from Lazarus, Remember that the idea of duty and loyalty are denigrated in today's society as being "outmoded" and old fashioned. "  Duty is very hard to describe, Robert E. Lee had commented that " Duty is sublime and the harshest of mistresses".  Duty is difficult to describe, but duty is basically your obligation that you place on yourself as what you owe to society by your standards.  Duty is part of a person's personal code of honor and integrity.  Words that you don't see much of anymore.  People do " what feels good", not thinking that they are doing is contributing to the decline of Western Civilization.  Loyalty is another word that is not used anymore except to yourself.  People nowadays are taught by the decline of societal norms that  it is OK to "let it all hang out" where in the past such behavior is frowned upon.  If you did something that was frowned upon by society, you got the message pretty fast, this contributed to a code of conduct or behavior that was expected of all gentlemen.  Now it is OK to be a thug.  Again this is by design, if a society cannot remember its past or the moral upbringing, than they will accept anything that the statist put out there.

"All societies are based on rules to protect pregnant women and young children. All else is surplus age, excrescence, adornment, luxury or folly which can--and must--be dumped in emergency to preserve this prime function. As racial survival is the only universal morality, no other basic is possible. Attempts to formulate a “perfect society” on any foundation other than “women and children first!” is not only witless, it is automatically genocidal. Nevertheless, starry-eyed idealists (all of them male) have tried endlessly--and no doubt will keep on trying"

     Another quote from Lazarus,   It does harken back to the Victorian age of "Women and Children First".  Because in that time, they knew that it was the job of all men of virtue to ensure that the women and children survived, it was a way to guarantee their culture.  It also taught a person to put the needs of the society above his needs.  I always liked the phrase that the veteran at one time handed the government a blank check that would include payment including life if necessary.  people that are willing to out the needs of the country above their own are a rare breed,
     I remembered when I was in North Georgia College, the Military college of Georgia  along with VMI, the Citadel, and Norwich.which are Military Colleges in the University systems of the United States.  There was a painting on the wall that discussed  the rules of Gentlemen.  

    

1. Be gentle to the fairer sex, it's in the name.
2. Dress well no matter the occasion.
3. Pride is dangerous, be careful.
4. Be humble, be grateful
5. Opening the door or giving up a seat for a lady isn't up
for discussion.
6. Work hard, that is if you want to own anything worth having
7. Starting / instigating a fight is for school boys, but men obtain the power to end one.
8. Ignorance isn't bliss, knowledge is power.
9. Suit up (make sure they're tailored to fit)
10. Confidence is a gentleman's trademark.
11. Comfort zones are for the weak, men aren't weak.
12. Foul language is for the less educated. Make eye contact and mean business. 
13. Make Eye contact and mean business.
14. Lower your standards for no one.

15. Being romantic doesn't make you a woman.
16. Stay groomed.
17. Admit when you're wrong
18. Always make the first move, you're the MAN
19. Handwritten "Thank you" cards aren't outdated. Use them.
20. Chivalry is not dead, there are just too many boys.
21. It is said you can tell a lot about a man through his handshake, so make it strong and firm.
22. Leave her breathless
23. Judge no one, just improve yourself.
24. Speak your mind, don't hesitate.
25. Offer your arm to a lady while walking, they'll feel secure.
26. You're the man, you pay.
27. Women love compliments, gentlemen provide them.
28. Never wear your hat indoors, it's disrespectful.
29. Make sure everyone has their plate before you start eating.
30. We don't always have to be the center of attention, but we are always noticed. It is our      signature   as gentlemen to come, make a statement, leave, and be remembered.
31.  Never discuss the virtues of your women with other gentleman, it is crass and beneath you.

  A gentleman is a successor of the knights that were sworn to defend the weak against injustice , this was a noble endeavor, it showed what it took to be the best of us, what made us more than mammals interested in the here and now.  A Knight was supposed to represent the best of their society by words and deeds.

   I don't know what will it take to bring back the old norms, it will take generations to undue the damage done to Western civilization by the Marxist and their fellow travelers.  I don't know if we as a society have the mental fortitude to make the proper call.  I almost think of the 40 years in the desert like the Israelite did after leaving Egypt until all that remembered the bondage was no longer there and the ones that were there grew up in freedom and adversity.

10 comments:

  1. I needed this reminder. These are the thoughts I pondered as a young man. I saw the men die in the Titanic and the women and children survive. It meant to me that those decisions were made BEFORE the emergency. And they were willingly made. I read about the men falling on grenades on Pork Chop Hill in Korea, to save their buddies. I could think of no more worthy death than those. Self sacrifice for the good of someone else. As I approach the end of life, I feel I have grown weak in my resolve. That the accumulated pain of life has eroded my foundation. I still have family that I can help and those have become my "greater good". Thanks for reminding me of the need to be a gentleman, not just a mammal.

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    1. Hey STxAR;

      This was one of my better post that I had written, even back then. Manners mean a lot to me, and Gentlemen being Gentlemen is almost a bygone art. I am old fashioned and proudly so, and to me courtesy is timeless.

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  2. Chivalry and being a gentleman died with the advent of feminism, the suffragette insanity and the ridiculous notion that men an women are equal.

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    1. exactly. Women had rules in chivalrous societhies. But they decided to break the rules and ignore them.

      I still try to becivalrous, but most "women" reject it.

      I trat a ll women as ladies, until they fail to act like ladies....which is 95% of the time.

      Women want the best of Chivalry, but aren't willing to do their part. Been happening since the 60's I think. Part of the master plan to destroy our society.

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    2. Hey Daniel;
      I tend to agree, A lot of "Feminist" hate guys that are "gentlemen", they don't understand what it means and the purpose of being a gentlemen in Society, They just view it as something to be "Crushed" not understanding that destroying it also carries the seeds of their own destruction.

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  3. Chivalry is, from my perspective, quite alive. Problem is, is a lack of Ladies.

    Seriously. Men want to 'men.' They want to dirty up, talk trash, be men, scratch, sniff, AND have someone to give them a reason to get clean, talk nice, be couth and such.

    In my time in a reenactment organization, I was called up for some award of something. It didn't matter to me. It mattered to my wife. In fact, I said, "Men are rough creatures, an empty goblet, which they willingly fill with fouled liquid. But a lady brings clean and clear liquid for men to drink, thirstily, as we need someone to tame and calm us." And, yes, the ladies swooned most fulsomely. The 'gurls' in the crowd who weren't ladies didn't understand.

    Seriously, want more overt acts of chivalry? Let women be ladies again.

    Men still jump in front of bullets, pull the innocent out of the path of cars, do things like pick up garbage and help little old ladies in the grocery store and such. Just... Where are the Ladies?

    You can't have Courtly Love without participants on both sides of the fence. You can't have Courtesy in a world of rudeness, piercings and indiscreet (not hidden) tattoos.

    Chivalry relies on the understanding of the knightly virtues.

    Honesty
    Loyalty
    Chaste (not no-sex, just sex with one's partner only)
    Honor
    Courtesy
    Courage
    Justice
    Faith

    When a woman doesn't inspire these traits, Chivalry is lacking.

    Meet a girl online for a quickie? You won't be marrying her.
    Meet a girl who's profane and uncouth and vulgar? Not taking her to see mom.
    Meet a girl who's destroying her body and the lives around her by using drugs?
    Meet a girl who thinks she's better in all things than a man, more equal in everything?
    Meet a girl who doesn't want a man?

    Sound familiar?

    It's hard for men these days to find women who want to be women. That's the first thing. Men want women. Women should want men.

    Thus Chivalry...

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    1. Hey Beans;

      You are correct, the Modern "4th" wave of feminism ruined Chivalry, They view themselves superior to men and view us as "breeding stock" of that at all and a women only society with a men subservient and they view this as their utopia and who will save their utopia when the barbarians come from the East? The Old Ways have worked for 1000's of years, only in the last 30 to 40 have they tried to change how things are done.

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    2. They'll find out, when society falls and dark times reappear. They'll learn.

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    3. Hey Beans

      They will learn, but by that time it will be too late and it will be 1000 years of darkness as Western Civilization is snuffed out and the age of the barbarians have arrived.

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  4. Chivalry, sadly is only valued when people understand the true value of honor and trust. When keeping your word was a stronger bond than a written contract because if you were honest and did good work people referred others to you. Women use to prefer men who kept there word, followed proper rules of conduct and comported themselves with respect for others. But the "grass is greener" concept seems to value the "bad" boy who makes his own rules or breaks them or just has none as better than someone who has rules. Rules are forms of conduct, how you deal with business, how you relate to others/family and just where the lines you do not cross are.
    It use to be that you saw that modeled by the men in your family, fathers, grandfathers, uncles and the like but these days with the idea of "we don't need a man around" there is no example of it modeled. There were somethings I learned from my father and grandfather but for me it was old movies that showed just what Chivalry was. Robin Hood, Ivanhoe, Knights of the Round Table, Rio Bravo, Rio Grande and other westerns showed me there were men with rules, firm set rules that they did not cross and the consequence if they did. These days of you are not responsible for your actions sadly means you can break the rules without any consequence.
    I have heard many women lament that they just want to find a "nice" guy who will respect them, without realizing that the "nice" guys have been there but were made fun of when they tried asking them out, or just insulted as to their "manliness" because they did not have a long list of women they had been intimate with and other comments that hearing them time after time just causes us to give up it is not worth the abuse. I can not count the number of times a woman has said they wanted a nice guy like me to ask them out and then in the same breath said I feel safe with you you're like a brother to me. Only to have them tell me later I would really like there new guy as he's reminds them of me.
    As someone told me too soon old to late wise, by the time you realize what you had it is hard to get it back.
    Like freedom it is had to get it back once it is lost.

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